Of offspec healers and threat (Shadow Labs)

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=30101#pos t30101

I'm surprised you had problems with this boss Vyndree? I was able to take him down first try (I was 70, but not sure if that helped or hindered though).

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I had trouble until I swapped one of my 4 elemental shaman for a resto shaman. ;) You mentioned earth shield -- I didn't have that my first few tries.



The burst from 4 elemental shaman > mind control phase. The burst from 3 elemental shaman + resto shaman and you just might survive.

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=30101#pos t30101

I thought this was a known bug and was already fixed by blizzard?

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My rogue has been retired for quite a while now.

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=31572#pos t31572

We decided to run Shadow Labs again. went up to 2nd boss, started the event... all is going well.. MC Phase hits.... BOOM! Resto Shaman is "one shotted" by 3x Elemental Shaman. 8| WTF, Over. (they were all at 100% health prior to MC Phase, it looked like all 3 used some shock on the healer, effectively blowing him up).

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Sounds familiar, except my shammies only have ~7k health and are EASILY killable by each other. The only way I could get them to live (I had to do this instance again with my holy priest) was to put them in high stam / low spelldmg gear, and they lasted through that for 3-4 MC's. The problem I have is when the pally goes oom and I have to wait for decent threat buildup before I can continue DPS.

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=31572#pos t31572

I proceeded to use ressurect to get the healer back up, then chain heal + mana tide totem to get some mana back (think I'm gona respec to get that 20% health / mana on ressurection talent!),

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Yea, you take the imp selfrez for the health/mana on rez, not for the decreased cooldown. Very handy for raiding where there's alot of AoE that could one-shot you after you selfrez.

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=31572#pos t31572

then we proceeded to burn the boss down. The rest of Shadow Labs is cake (3rd boss, stand in one place and go all out, dies before teleport aoe thing, then last boss is just a long fight.. tank and spank again).

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The MC boss sucks. Badly.

So I'm starting to guess that the 2nd boss has a large luck factor involved. My 1st attempt they all went into melee combat, which was laughable. 2nd attempt they went into elemental combat and wtfpwned the healer.[/quote]

This guy really isn't that hard I just barely dinged 70 and was able to do him with no problems everytime. Line up by the door drop all your totems pop hero + 5x earth ele and blast away. I get him to about 20-30% before first MC, and then kill him after MC (pop another heroism). I usually don't lose anyone but once in awhile 1 shaman will go down in the first MC.

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Originally Posted by 'Toned',index.php?page=Thread&postID=35906#post359 06

This guy really isn't that hard I just barely got 70 and was able to do him with no problems everytime. Line up by the door drop all your totems pop hero + 5x earth ele and blast away. I get him to about 20-30% before first MC, and then kill him after MC (pop another heroism). I usually don't lose anyone but once in awhile 1 shaman will go down in the first MC.

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You don't get heroism at level 69, and I don't have 5 shammies. ;)

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Originally Posted by 'Toned',index.php?page=Thread&postID=35906#post359 06

I just barely got 70

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I think he means he just turned 70.

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Originally Posted by 'Kyudo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=35909#post359 09

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Originally Posted by 'Toned',index.php?page=Thread&postID=35906#post359 06

I just barely got 70

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I think he means he just turned 70.

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I know, I was saying that, when this thing was written, I was 69 and playing with 4 ele shammies and a prot pally. So I wouldn't have heroism to pop, and I don't have as much dps since i'm running 4 dps/1 tank rather than 5 dps.

One trick I used on this fight is to use Major Dreamless Sleep Potion when he emote so my character slept for 12s and dont attack or waste mana.
Not sure if it can help for multiboxing (don't see why not) but it was very usefull for me on my priest when my gear was so so (bad regen + holy nova spam = oom very fast)

I do find it quite interesting how different setups handle this boss. With my 5 shammies this boss is a quite straight forward (mostly), drop earth elementals and just keep nuking...bish bash bosh...one dead boss. Now that I've levelled a pally to help in heroics (only about 20%xp to go before hitting 70), have tried this boss again with 1 prot pally, 3 ele shammies and a resto shammy and have a much better appreciation of what an utter pain in the neck this boss can be and what Vyndree was going through. I've only had a few attempts so far and have got him to about 10-15% but he is a real bugger.

Have resisted the temptation to swap the pally for the 5th Shammy as I'm sure it's just practice that's required (and less epics!) but the realisation is dawning that a good 5 boxing team probably consists of at least 6 or more characters to mix and match! ;)

If you have 5 level 70 shamans dropping earth elementals and popping heroism/bloodlust to start, I imagine the fight is much, much easier. Because you should be able to DPS as hard/fast as you can without aggro concerns and minimize the number of MC phases you deal with. Any setup that is aggro sensitive (to coin a phrase) will have a much harder time with him.

Now I'm getting the itch to start leveling my shammy group so I can try this. :o