200 WOWs...

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Originally Posted by sputnik

Before I had this fully automated, I had 2 shifts of 4 guys each working 4 pcs all day logging in and making chars and starting the census script :) They had to multitask like crazy to keep all those bots running... heh

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These 8 guys - I'm wondering what level they got up to. What instances the multi-tasked simultaneously per client window that can provide resources to the Dual-Boxing community in terms of strats & advice.

I thought this community is for those kinds of "multi-tasking" not for census data mining "multi-tasking." I really don't see any progress with their multi tasking considering any information they gather is sold to third parties - not to mention it doesn't involve any ingame progress or growth of the character they create.

Then again - it's not my website and I'm not one to say how it should be limited / expanded to.

Just my 2 cp.

So how do you set up the accounts? I'd guess at trial-accounts, but doesn't it take a payment option to activate them?

Oh and can you name a few of those sites or just tell me what EU PvP or RPPvP server has got the most hordies on it? I'm considering to start on a new realm and theoretically the factions should rebalance eventually - just hoping to reach lvl 140 (70*2) before that happens.

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Originally Posted by Xzin

I call bs. No machine runs 20-40 WoWs at once.

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Then again your definition of running it requires actual movement, which he obviously doesn't. If you're prepared to go to a ridiculously low res and 2 FPS it should be possible..

It's truly amazing to see how quickly a really creative, open-minded idea can spinoff into it's own community of judgmental, closed-minded critics. I just learned about multiboxing recently, and thought it was one of the coolest ideas I've ever come across, and not just in Warcraft terms.

Yet in my first hour of exploring this new idea, I find people who are already ready and willing to define the activity as "THIS" and certainly not "THAT." There are plenty of people who would call the entire multiboxing community a bunch of hacks and cheaters for creating an innovative way of playing, and yet that same community would again turn around and criticize someone else for presenting a related modification that "well, isn't what WE do."

I created this account just to comment on that detestable attitude. I don't really plan on posting here any more, but I do think you critics need to rethink why you're doing what you're doing in the first place. Multiboxing was born out of a positive, creative force, and that's certainly not what you're fostering.

I don't think anyone's directly attacking the guy, but more questioning his motives, he is after all doing this to sell information rather than game. And if you read the banner above the forums "Dual-Boxing, Gaming elevated to the next level". But hey, each to his own

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Originally Posted by Shogun

I don't think anyone's directly attacking the guy, but more questioning his motives, he is after all doing this to sell information rather than game. And if you read the banner above the forums "Dual-Boxing, Gaming elevated to the next level". But hey, each to his own

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As previously stated, I felt like sharing my hardware setup, and how many WOWs it's possible to run per PC. Whether you "agree" with what I'm doing or not, I don't really care. Personally, I think making money is a lot more important than rotting in front of a computer playing games 16 hours a day. If you're already making enough to be financially independent - great - then you can game all you want :) If you feel like you have nothing to gain by reading this thread, then move on to the next thread.

Another fun pic of hardware upgrades during tuesday realm maintenance window:

http://www.astrocore.com/upload/computer.jpg

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Originally Posted by sputnik

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Originally Posted by Shogun

I don't think anyone's directly attacking the guy, but more questioning his motives, he is after all doing this to sell information rather than game. And if you read the banner above the forums "Dual-Boxing, Gaming elevated to the next level". But hey, each to his own

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As previously stated, I felt like sharing my hardware setup, and how many WOWs it's possible to run per PC. Whether you "agree" with what I'm doing or not, I don't really care. Personally, I think making money is a lot more important than rotting in front of a computer playing games 16 hours a day. If you're already making enough to be financially independent - great - then you can game all you want :) If you feel like you have nothing to gain by reading this thread, then move on to the next thread.

Another fun pic of hardware upgrades during tuesday realm maintenance window:

http://www.astrocore.com/upload/computer.jpg

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I have nightmares just thinking about the upgrades and reinstalls I have to do this weekend... Can't imagine how much chaos that would cause in my head :P

As for the setup, I agree it's interesting to see how many instances of WoW you can run on each machine, and how much the logging in and character creation can be automated. I guess it's just the stigma that people who do things in-game to make cash get tarred with, bots and farmers bad rep carrying over I guess.

And I barely have time to play 4-5 hours a day, let alone 16, I work full time, married, etc :)

How does the information gathering work btw? You log into a realm with a new character, say alliance, do /who *realm name* and lvl/class etc a few times, that info is collected, then log a horde character on that same realm and do the same again? How long does a full cycle of all realms take for example? (using all PCs and instances)

There is a central server which assigns account/passwords, realms, and horde or alliance. Each bot communicates with the central server, logs in, creates a character based on the instructions from the central server, performs /who's (the exact whos I do are top secret... hehe), inserts the data to a MySQL database, then logs back to the character selection screen and asks for a new realm to be assigned from the central server. A full cycle of 440 total servers (220 servers x 2 (horde/alliance)) takes about 4 hours, mainly because we have to slow things down, if you're logging in and performing commands too fast and then logging out quickly and logging back in, eventually the realm server gets pissed and starts throwing errors. Also, the cycle sometimes is shorter if some realms are down, the central assigning server uses blizzard's realmstatus.xml to decide what realms to assign out. We end up having to do many cycles, partially because not all chars are on at once, and partially because the /who doesn't get everyone, for example if you do /who ab or /who [zone] or /who [level], you might get more than 50 results, and even if you /who [zone] [level] you might still get more than 50 results.

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Originally Posted by sputnik

There is a central server which assigns account/passwords, realms, and horde or alliance. Each bot communicates with the central server, logs in, creates a character based on the instructions from the central server, performs /who's (the exact whos I do are top secret... hehe), inserts the data to a MySQL database, then logs back to the character selection screen and asks for a new realm to be assigned from the central server. A full cycle of 440 total servers (220 servers x 2 (horde/alliance)) takes about 4 hours, mainly because we have to slow things down, if you're logging in and performing commands too fast and then logging out quickly and logging back in, eventually the realm server gets pissed and starts throwing errors. Also, the cycle sometimes is shorter if some realms are down, the central assigning server uses blizzard's realmstatus.xml to decide what realms to assign out. We end up having to do many cycles, partially because not all chars are on at once, and partially because the /who doesn't get everyone, for example if you do /who ab or /who [zone] or /who [level], you might get more than 50 results, and even if you /who [zone] [level] you might still get more than 50 results.

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Just an odd question, but wouldn't it be more efficient to datamine the Armory?

Or just use a single account?

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Originally Posted by Xzin

Or just use a single account?

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you can't log in a single account more than once, each script takes some time to run - about 30 minutes - because if it does /who commands too fast it will be kicked off the server. so, we run about 200 scripts in mass parallel.