I'm sick of the "random" dungeon finder

I have noticed a couple of things:

1) if you pug people, it'll find an "average" gearscore and put people at each extreme of that (ie if you're low, you're going to get at least one really really high person, and vice versa - this is probably to increase success rates).

2) When I run solo - it appears my guildies get the SAME instances in the same time frame. I notice this by who gets what achievement.

3) It seems to throw you into instances that your NEED achivements for. Has anyone considered that they get Occulas so much is becuase there are five achievements for that damn place, and most of you probably have zero of them? I get Azjol-Nerub a lot, and I have not completed the first boss achivement (watch him die).

Food for thought.

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Originally Posted by Fursphere

3) It seems to throw you into instances that your NEED achivements for. Has anyone considered that they get Occulas so much is becuase there are five achievements for that damn place, and most of you probably have zero of them? I get Azjol-Nerub a lot, and I have not completed the first boss achivement (watch him die).

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It's an interesting idea, but my experience doesn't support that. I do a few daily heroics every day, have no Occulus achievements (including completing the dungeon), and have only gotten it twice.

Edit: Though thinking more about it ... maybe it does bias instances toward ones you lack achievements in, but doesn't favor them more heavily based on the number of achievements left to be done, i.e. Occulus is as likely to be on the "favored" list as any other with missing achievements. It's more likely to stay on that list, because it takes longer to knock out five achievements in a hard dungeon than two in an easy one. I only have about half the heroic achievements so if your idea is correct, it'd make sense that I'd get a more even distribution than some people are reporting -- I have a lot more "favored" instances on my list. Huh.

Hm. For me the rng seems to be pretty random. I got oc, hor, toc in a row too. But also uk, gd, nexus.

But rng does funny things to your head. I have strong memories of the up tanksword never dropping only to drop the night before I get the new 3.3 one (forgot name. Not at pc)
Also a 15 minute random uk is less sticky than a 15 minute wait

Anyways. Programming 101 teaches that in computersience there's no random, only pseudo-random. But my rny rng seems to be ok :)

I seem to get Ank Old Kingdom a lot for some reason. I have done at least 50 of the randoms and have never gotten Hall of Lightning or Stone. That seems rather odd to me. I get Nexus and Ank Old Kingdom the most.

Gundrak is my rng's dungeon of choice. I have copped it, finished it then switched to another toon and got it again TWICE.
But apart form that one dungeon I have a pretty even spread, Ive had OK, AN, Ocu, HoS, HoL, Nex, UK, UP, FoS, PoS, ToC and any I have missed except for HoR. None seem to appear a whole lot more then others, maybe HoS but not by much.

For me it's a motivator to try to get those instances done. I've completed some dungeons which I never did without the tool.
Gundrak (colosus) , Oculus (end boss) , HoS (event) and Azjol Nerub (end boss) seem to be failing though, the others are done in a short time.

I spent the long weekend gearing my protadin. That's right, the bear has gone Paladin. I probably won't replace my bear, but it's amusing to see how easy paladin tanking is.

Below information is based on solo leveling / play unless otherwise stated:

When I leveled from 72-80 over the past 2 weeks, I was always in que for a dungeon finder. From 72-74 I always got Nexus, from 74-77, I always got DTK, from 77-79, I always got Gundrak. If I was a totally new player, I wouldn't think any other instances existed from 72-80.

Now the cool part I really didn't mind about the dungeon finder was the constant change in what I was doing. Ques for DPS were around 10-15 minutes, sometimes near 30. So I would go do a few quests and a que would pop, then back to quests. I ended up hitting 80 with only completing Borean Tundra, Howling Fjord, Dragonblight, and about 40ish quests in Icecrown. I was also wearing the heirloom chest and shoulders. So between the 20% XP bonus and only 3 complete zones and A LOT of random dungeons. I went from 68-80. Beats the hell out of grinding AV imo.

So this past weekend, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I spent doing nothing but random heroics. I didn't box at all. All day Friday and Saturday I qued as DPS. Doing quests in between. I got bumped out of a few runs since I was in quest blues / greens / some dungeon gear. But I managed to farm 4 pc T9 in 2 days, so all day Sunday, I qued as a tank. Instant ques were really, really nice. I got some odd looks as my health is still kinda of low. but I farmed enough badges Sunday to get my 5th T9 piece and get the Triumph tanking ring.

So now that you know how little of a life I had this weekend, here are my experiences with which dungeons I got from the finder. Here is a link to armory of the bosses I killed:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Legion+of+Boom

DTK: 12
UK: 5
UP: 5
CoS: 5
OK: 5
AN: 3
HoS: 3
HoL: 3
Nexus: 3
VH: 3
Gundrak: 2
Occ: 2
FoS: 2
ToC: 1
PoS: 1
HoR: 1

Random Lich King Heroics completed: 43

The only runs I bailed on, were 3 total failures of OCC, and 1 OCC run where we just couldn't down the last boss. So outside of the above numbers, I got 4 more OCC ques. If I had completed them all, OCC would have been at 6. Putting DTK and OCC at the most common dungeons the finder threw me in.

All of this was on a single, fresh 80 with 0 achievements starting out. All these numbers were from the random dungeons where I qued solo, except for 1 where I qued with a full group.

Nice info there Svper. I basically did the exact same thing, except on my warrior. And the results, even though I didn't record them as you did (good idea btw), look / feel similar. UP and UK were big hitters for me. And if AN wasn't locked out, I would get it for sure.

I did notice that as I was doing instances last night (and the day before), people were getting achivements in ones I had just finished. Its like the server is on a "similar" rotation - even if its random. (ie - if its 2pm - you're gettting Gundrak, lolz)

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Originally Posted by Fursphere

Nice info there Svper. I basically did the exact same thing, except on my warrior. And the results, even though I didn't record them as you did (good idea btw), look / feel similar. UP and UK were big hitters for me. And if AN wasn't locked out, I would get it for sure.

I did notice that as I was doing instances last night (and the day before), people were getting achivements in ones I had just finished. Its like the server is on a "similar" rotation - even if its random. (ie - if its 2pm - you're gettting Gundrak, lolz)

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lol I noticed the morning had a preference to DTK. I never got DTK past noon, I always found that odd. What was really annoying, the first 2 days, I picked up some tank gear from boss drops, but I never got any ret gear, bosses just weren't dropping DPS plate. it wasn't until late Saturday that I finally started getting some DPS upgrades. Running FoS/PoS/HoR in heirlooms+ greens = lol.

I can't clear any heroics yet, so I still queue for normal dungeons to get triumph badges. It always picks HoL, which I have only completed once and will never care to complete ever again. Last night I got HoL 4 times, and 1 Occulus before I gave up.