Ordered for 10 account computer, hopefully its good enough

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Originally Posted by 'Coltimar',index.php?page=Thread&postID=214336#pos t214336

Smooth, I can run 8 clients on a system one generation older than what you are building. I don't have any trouble. With the right setup, you should be fine. SSD is nice but you can accomplish a lot with having your clients on a separate RAID0 array. That's what I did.

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Great info, hope I can get mine running nice with just the plain sata drives. If not SSDs aren't that expensive. Could I go with a 32GB ssd for just 2 copies of wow or would I need to have the OS installed on it also to make it effective? I haven't been this excited in along time. It's like christmas as a kid. All of my packages are scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I've already downloaded Windows 7 so it will be ready.

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Originally Posted by 'Smoooth',index.php?page=Thread&postID=214452#post 214452

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Originally Posted by 'Coltimar',index.php?page=Thread&postID=214336#pos t214336

Smooth, I can run 8 clients on a system one generation older than what you are building. I don't have any trouble. With the right setup, you should be fine. SSD is nice but you can accomplish a lot with having your clients on a separate RAID0 array. That's what I did.

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Great info, hope I can get mine running nice with just the plain sata drives. If not SSDs aren't that expensive. Could I go with a 32GB ssd for just 2 copies of wow or would I need to have the OS installed on it also to make it effective? I haven't been this excited in along time. It's like christmas as a kid. All of my packages are scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I've already downloaded Windows 7 so it will be ready.

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I have system and WoW (only one copy) running from on 64GB OCZ Vertex series drive. The system had 12GB of RAM. I runs absolutely smooth, even in Dalaran. Only porting to the inn at peak hour slows the frame-rate for a few second. Nothing disturbing at all. I have never seen more than 50-50% of my RAM used in Dalaran.

Edit : I forgot, disk drive can be an issue with SSD. I have 18GB free on mine, out of the 60.4 actually usable.

it doesnt matter how great a pc is, boxing on one pc is always inferior to running fewer clients on multiple pc's. thats just how it works.

save yourself some money, buy a $300-400 PC with an E5200 and 4 gigs of ram, triple box on 3 machines and use your current main PC as your primary toon. it will work out infinately better.

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it doesnt matter how great a pc is, boxing on one pc is always inferior to running fewer clients on multiple pc's. thats just how it works. not only does running 10 clients on a single PC limit your ability to monitor your alts, it will significantly increase your random wow.exe errors and memory leakage.

save yourself a little money and a lot of frustration, buy a $300-400 PC with an E5200 and 4 gigs of ram, box 2x4 and 1x2 (with two tanks on your primary) with three machines. it will work out a lot better.

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Originally Posted by 'Jezebel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=214804#post 214804

it doesnt matter how great a pc is, boxing on one pc is always inferior to running fewer clients on multiple pc's. thats just how it works. not only does running 10 clients on a single PC limit your ability to monitor your alts, it will significantly increase your random wow.exe errors and memory leakage.

save yourself a little money and a lot of frustration, buy a $300-400 PC with an E5200 and 4 gigs of ram, box 2x4 and 1x2 (with two tanks on your primary) with three machines. it will work out a lot better.

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Dollar for Dollar I'll put a single system build up against any multi-system build you can find and get an equal or better multiboxing experience out of it.

Anything you can do hardware software can do better now - it definitely wasn't always this way - but software has evolved in huge leaping strides in the past year while hardware is still pretty much within 10% of what it was capable of last year.

In no way does it limit your ability to monitor alts... I run 5 clients on one PC and can see whats going on with all 5 at any given time... even before I stepped up to three monitors this was true!

Random wow.exe errors are simply a sign of a poorly built system, bad ram, poor cooling, bad PSU or other hardware/software configuration errors - they exist in single box environments just as much as they do multi box environments. I can tell you with absolute certainty that I haven't had an error from wow.exe in 6 months. Those errors were directly attributed to carbonite, once I updated that mod they went away, before that it had been over a year since I had any wow errors, and again it was UI mods causing them.

If a wow memory leak exists it's going to happen on 1 client or 5 or 500...

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it doesnt matter how great a pc is, boxing on one pc is always inferior to running fewer clients on multiple pc's

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I moved from one WoW per machine across five machines to a single machine nearly two years ago now, and I have never looked back.

Noise, heat, cable mess, space, situational awareness with fewer screens... absolutely everything is better with a single machine than it was with multiple machines.

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it will significantly increase your random wow.exe errors and memory leakage

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Huh? I'll grant you that the effect of the inevitable memory leaks when WoW's running is magnified with more clients running, but "increase you random wow.exe errors"? Nah.

I'm not in a position to comment on the viability of ten WoW clients on a single machine, simply because I just haven't done it, but I'd take the single machine route over a multi-machine setup any time.

I really would.

And I've tried it both ways :)

One aspect is important to take into account when comparing one machine versus several smaller machines.

No, I'm not talking about electricity bill, I'm talking about WAF ! ;)

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Originally Posted by 'zanthor',index.php?page=Thread&postID=214812#post 214812

Anything you can do hardware software can do better now

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theres no reason to assume that because you have multiple PC's that youre forced to use hardware. i have 5 PC's and i use a combination of hardware and software. each has its strengths and weakness'.

purely from a control point of view, a single PC can only accept one set of key and mouse inputs at a time. i frequently use G15 macros to control my basic tanking and dps macros while i switch to my secondary keyboard and actively play a priest or a CC toon.

and, yes, running any form of multimedia intensive application multiple times will create system and software issues, including errors and memory leaks, regardless how great hardware is.

multiple clients on one PC limits your options, not the other way around. i dont see the purpose of spending more money to buy a single machine, when he can spend less money and incorporate an extra machine into his existing setup and achieve a superior effect?

I got most of the stuff today but I'm still waiting on the ram and the dvd drive. They are supposed to be here tomorrow.

I set up all my accounts and started my first 10 team. My existing setup actually can handle 10 in the starter zone just fine. Unfortunately only 4 of my accounts are raf linked.

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I'm starting to learn how to level 2 parties simultaneously. For kill quests I made a macro for a single alt in party 2 to start a smite. I tap it and then hit my normal dps macro. This causes party 2 to have the kill tapped and they get credit.

Collection quests will just plain be skipped for anything under 100% drop rate or more than 1. It may be hard to get enough quests in the level 40-58 range but I can alway just fill in levels with boosting. I couldn't stand collection quests when I was 5 boxing, no way am I going to do it x10.