Okay, who is this?

It's a dirty tactic that can be banned for Wintrading or not . You can treat it like a spy in a real war. This kid has found that loophole that should be fix in the next patch. Like after 3 consecutive chat spam you're toon will be silenced for 30 minutes like in Ragnarok. In the turrets or tanks you'll be boot out if you're not shooting for 1 min or if you didn't hit an opponent after 10 shots. What he has done will surely be imitated by other people who has the same attitude towards the game. What if a Horde guild have a an Alliance Sister guild in the same Realm will do the same? WG is still new and needs some tweaks. I just hope that people will not blame Multiboxing in general eventhough the thread starter in WoW forums pointed that out.

First of all. Comparing 2 different games doesn't make any sense. Unless their rules are 100% identical to each other. It's like comparing apples to grenades. (bit of a stretch but you get the idea)

Second. prepared said that he has had threats of being reported and what not. How many people threaten us multiboxxers everyday and actually go thru with it. Also Blizzard may or may not ban you at any given time. Whether that is right away or a few months down the line, no one actually knows.

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What if a Horde guild have a an Alliance Sister guild in the same Realm will do the same?

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Ya really its not like you have to box to be able to do it.

Well the guy in EVE did something to effect the game 100 times more then what Prepared did (if the allegaltions are true)....

Let me ask this. If prepared was ONLY running his allience toons and none of his horde toons were online and gave infos to Horde and refused to fire so that Horde won would that be illegal "wintrading". I don't even know what win tradeing is ... did the EVE guy "wintrade"?

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=192919#p ost192919

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What if a Horde guild have a an Alliance Sister guild in the same Realm will do the same?

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Ya really its not like you have to box to be able to do it.

Well the guy in EVE did something to effect the game 100 times more then what Prepared did (if the allegaltions are true)....

Let me ask this. If prepared was ONLY running his allience toons and none of his horde toons were online and gave infos to Horde and refused to fire so that Horde won would that be illegal "wintrading". I don't even know what win tradeing is ... did the EVE guy "wintrade"?

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Yes, it would. He is abusing the mechanics of the game to influence the outcome of the match - he's guilty under the broad umbrella of "the spirit of the game", the same if he'd been communicating with either side to influence battlegrounds and arenas.

The boxing comes into play because he's "camping" turrets and vehicles, prohibiting alliance players to use them, and telling the horde he is doing so. Not technically "win-trading" (unless he's working with both sides to throw games on purpose), but I guarantee you it will be found to be a big enough violation to strip him of all gear and honor, if not outright permaban him over it.

The issue in EVE was completely different.

He was accused of spamming the trade channel and playing allience and horde toons to the advange of his horde toons in WG at the same time, and then Fur accused him of using accounts not in his name.

Well sorry Im not up on the latest cheating techniques as well as you are, Fur.

How is the EvE situation different, a guy who is loyal to one side, infilitrates the other side and then DISBANDS the other side lol ... Err actually he was on Side A, was sent to infilitrate Side B for nefarious purposed, Decides Side B is superior and then DISBANDS Side A.

Basically one guy playing on two sides at the same time to the determenet of one side.......

Oh god, what a dick. The concept of the of lyin', cheatin' multiboxer is usually wishful thinking on the part of someone who just wants to believe it. Now there's an actual example of a truly assholish multiboxer. I guess it was inevitable but it's still sad to see it.

If we were a political organization, I think now would be the time to release a solemn statement condemning the actions of this individual.

He didnt do anything that was previously held illegal.

Blizzard has stated Instance boosting is "not working as intended".

Are people who instance boost "asshats" or "takeing advantage of game mechanics", he should not be banned for doing actions that are within the rules even if they work "unfairly" to his advantage.

So at the most he should lose the grear and honor he got from WG, at the VERY most.

Then Blizzard should simply declare that you cannot similtounsly play horde and allience accounts in WG or maybe at any time. Once they make it illegal, then ban violators, but not before its clearly a violation of the rules.

As to the multiple accounts in different names ... exactly why would you create an account in a name not yours?

Blizzard won't bann him for win trading. You can report the same fucking farm bot every day, he is still there. You can also report a guy who is sitting in wintergrasp vehicles and /afk - blizz wont bann him. Ok If he is going to take like 16 tanks and /afk blizz would warn him.. but never bann.

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=192930#p ost192930

He didnt do anything that was previously held illegal.

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Then Blizzard should simply declare that you cannot similtounsly play horde and allience accounts in WG or maybe at any time. Once they make it illegal, then ban violators, but not before its clearly a violation of the rules.

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I totally get what you're saying, and often I'd agree, in the interests of fairness. This guy is exploiting a hole in the rules though, and I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who adhere to the letter of the law while thumbing their nose at the spirit of it. I don't know the wording of the policy offhand, but I understand that an account can't have a character of each faction on the same pvp server. Alliance and Horde also cannot communicate, conventionally. These two facts contribute to the "spirit of the game" and have been deliberately circumvented by this dude, in the interests of breaking gameplay in Wintergrasp in his favor, making the game less fun for many people trying to play fair. Even without a standing rule about multiboxing a PvP server, I'd say Blizzard (which has a ban-first,-sort-it-out-later attitude anyway) will not have to deliberate too long before crushing the guy ... And THEN making a rule. It would be severely unjust were he to get a quiet reprimand and then be allowed to run back into the world, flaunting his lack of permban to the people whose game experience he pissed on. Anyway, he's demonstrably the kind of guy who'd try to break the game to his own ends, and they don't need that kind of player slithering around.

Anyone else besides me that had a laugh on their face reading they might get banned?

I mean....so much time invested and then do this....

After a shitty day irl, this makes me a happy troll.

Junglelove,

-Menthu