Innerspace Windowsnapper, Repeater, and a little extra sumptin sumptin

I wanted to share some notes on the setup difficulty.

The beautiful thing is that over time, with people like Zanthor contributing, setup will get progressively easier and easier, and as the contributions mature, you will find it just as easy to configure as other solutions (or potentially easier). For example, someone could make an installer for you to download that would install all of the pieces, and to get started may be as simple as typing (or pasting) one Inner Space command given to you by instructions given with the installer (in fact, the installer could enter the command for you). Then in-game user interfaces could guide you through all of the configuration, and you could select from a number of pre-set WindowSnapper configurations (kind of like layouts but as Zanthor is demonstrating, can be very flexible), pre-set sets of binds (which you could potentially configure again from an in-game interface) and key white/black lists. ClickBoxer could also be configured by another user interface.

Everything I'm doing and everything Zanthor is doing is open source and being shared with the community, and the more people that do this and create and share new things (be it helpers, etc), the easier it will get, faster. :)

If anyone has any questions, feel free to join us in IRC, there is a channel #isboxer for discussion of and support for multi-boxing with Inner Space (IRC server info or a web-based client is available from the "documented here" links in Zanthor's main post). Zanthor has been there since he signed up as well.

One question I have about the repeater that I could not find out from the source. Is there a way to toggle the ability to allow all keys to be relayed?

For example, with Keyclone I have a white list setup but then use the override feature to allow me to login and select my characters, or do simultaneous emotes. Does repeater provide this functionality out of the box? I know IS can do it, and I have a pretty good idea how I would write it in LavishScript. Just wanted to make sure that I'm not missing something in repeater due to my limited exposure to LS.

I think this all looks very cool. I really like the idea of having the flexibility that IS could give me when I'm boxing. Zanthor's insightful posts might just help me take the leap to using IS.

Sivai

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Originally Posted by 'PyrostasisTDK',index.php?page=Thread&postID=14221 2#post142212

I only need IS. I love keyclone... but for games that require lock forward, IS does the same thing.

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Does the keybroadcaster work across seperate machines? And if so can I do some type of keyclone hotstring (push 1 here and have RShift+1 show up on another machine)?

I'm actually pretty interested in this same sort of setup. I watched the windowsnapper demo on youtube, and it looks far superior to the PiP/maximizer setup i have been using. I know there is a lot of controversy in the multiboxing community over the use of innerspace, but I really don't see anything wrong with it. it's a powerful tool that has a lot of legitimate uses. I know this may be controversial as well, but i think Repeater still follows the 1 action = 1 action rule, and obviously there isn't anything wrong with using windowsnapper, as it doesn't really affect the actual game at all. These are the main 2 mods that I would want to use, and I will be doing some research to make sure I know how to use them before switching. Thanks Zanthor for the helpful info!

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Originally Posted by 'Sivai',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142296#post14 2296

One question I have about the repeater that I could not find out from the source. Is there a way to toggle the ability to allow all keys to be relayed?

For example, with Keyclone I have a white list setup but then use the override feature to allow me to login and select my characters, or do simultaneous emotes. Does repeater provide this functionality out of the box? I know IS can do it, and I have a pretty good idea how I would write it in LavishScript. Just wanted to make sure that I'm not missing something in repeater due to my limited exposure to LS.

I think this all looks very cool. I really like the idea of having the flexibility that IS could give me when I'm boxing. Zanthor's insightful posts might just help me take the leap to using IS.

Sivai

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By default key broadcast will transmit ALL keys. If you click the whitelist button that enables the whitelist, opposite behavior as keyclones currently doing, but easily changed in the script.

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Originally Posted by 'Hàrem',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142297#post14 2297

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Originally Posted by 'PyrostasisTDK',index.php?page=Thread&postID=14221 2#post142212

I only need IS. I love keyclone... but for games that require lock forward, IS does the same thing.

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Does the keybroadcaster work across seperate machines? And if so can I do some type of keyclone hotstring (push 1 here and have RShift+1 show up on another machine)?

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Yes, it works on multiple machines and you can configure a key to broadcast a different key on the receiving end. A can become C. One thing I like is that on the other client, C doesn't necessarily broadcast A back like hotstrings do.

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Originally Posted by 'Hàrem',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142297#post14 2297

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Originally Posted by 'PyrostasisTDK',index.php?page=Thread&postID=14221 2#post142212

I only need IS. I love keyclone... but for games that require lock forward, IS does the same thing.

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Does the keybroadcaster work across seperate machines? And if so can I do some type of keyclone hotstring (push 1 here and have RShift+1 show up on another machine)?

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Yes, Repeater will work on one or more systems. To get Repeater to work between two systems for example, go into the IS configuration screen and enable RemoteUplink. Save and restart IS. Once IS has restarted and you have started WoW on both systems, open the console and type "Uplink RemoteUplink -connect <IP address or hostname>" and hit enter. You may have to modify your Windows firewall. You only need to enable RemoteUplink from your remote systems and you only need to connect from your main. You need to execute the connect command for each remote system that you want to connect.

-j

If the repeater will send distinct left and right mod keys (shift,ctrl,alt) then I'm in for a few hours of configuration.

But the configuration documentation for repeater is sparse. Could you go over how you used the G15 keys (I have a G11) and How I would 'hotstring' keypresses?

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Originally Posted by 'Hàrem',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142330#post14 2330

If the repeater will send distinct left and right mod keys (shift,ctrl,alt) then I'm in for a few hours of configuration.

But the configuration documentation for repeater is sparse. Could you go over how you used the G15 keys (I have a G11) and How I would 'hotstring' keypresses?

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Lax was saying it supported distinct mod keys on shift keys for left and right but not control and alt currently... He said it wouldn't be a stretch to add them, so hopefully it's in the "soon" category.

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Could you go over how you used the G15 keys (I have a G11) and How I would 'hotstring' keypresses?

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I'll be covering that soon, need to set mine up first.

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But the configuration documentation for repeater is sparse. Could you go over how you used the G15 keys (I have a G11) and How I would 'hotstring' keypresses?

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The documentation for Repeater is actually complete, it has one simple function and that is to do exactly what you do, in the other windows (and also has white/black lists).

What you actually are asking about and what Zanthor is probably going to post about shortly, is setting up binds. Binds will, on a case by case basis, set up specific actions to be taken when you hit a key. Inner Space will let you bind to G-keys, and also to buttons on other input devices (saitek command pad, nostromo n52, X-keys, etc), on a per-session basis.

Here is a recent copy of my binds setup for my 5 shaman crew I've been levelling up, using G-keys. I save this as binds.iss.

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function main()
{
/* Note: commented-out example of round-robin SPACEBAR in the form someone asked about in another thread.
  In practice, this is annoying because it is bound to the space bar itself. My current version uses space for current and ctrl+space for others. */
/*
alias mespace "press space;alias space themspace"
alias themspace "relay \"all other\" press space;alias space mespace"
alias space mespace
bind rrspace space space
*/

alias stomp1 "press 8;alias stomp stomp2"
alias stomp2 "relay is2 press 8;alias stomp stomp3"
alias stomp3 "relay is3 press 8;alias stomp stomp4"
alias stomp4 "relay is4 press 8;alias stomp stomp5"
alias stomp5 "relay is5 press 8;alias stomp stomp1"
alias stomp stomp1
 
alias frshock1 "press 5;alias frshock frshock2"
alias frshock2 "relay is2 press 5;alias frshock frshock3"
alias frshock3 "relay is3 press 5;alias frshock frshock4"
alias frshock4 "relay is4 press 5;alias frshock frshock5"
alias frshock5 "relay is5 press 5;alias frshock frshock1"
alias frshock frshock1
 
alias eshock1 "press alt+5;alias eshock eshock2"
alias eshock2 "relay is2 press alt+5;alias eshock eshock3"
alias eshock3 "relay is3 press alt+5;alias eshock eshock4"
alias eshock4 "relay is4 press alt+5;alias eshock eshock5"
alias eshock5 "relay is5 press alt+5;alias eshock eshock1"
alias eshock eshock1
 
alias etotem1 "press 6;relay is2 press alt+6;relay is3 press alt+0;alias etotem etotem2"
alias etotem2 "relay is2 press 6;relay is3 press alt+6;relay is4 press alt+0;alias etotem etotem3"
alias etotem3 "relay is3 press 6;relay is4 press alt+6;relay is5 press alt+0;alias etotem etotem4"
alias etotem4 "relay is4 press 6;relay is5 press alt+6;relay is1 press alt+0;alias etotem etotem5"
alias etotem5 "relay is5 press 6;relay is1 press alt+6;relay is2 press alt+0;alias etotem etotem1"
alias etotem etotem1
 
bind ftotem g8 "relay all press 1"

alias fnova relay "all other" press 9
bind fnovatotem ctrl+g8 fnova
 
bind etotem g9 etotem
 
bind frostshock g10 frshock
bind flameshock g11 relay all press alt+5
bind earthshock g12 eshock
 
bind stomp g15 stomp
bind bolt g18 relay "all other" press 2
bind assist g17 relay "all other" "press f2;press a"
bind follow g16 relay "all other" "press f2;press alt+f"
}

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Notice the use of aliases for round-robin. The bind is set to a specific alias (such as etotem), which in turn executes another alias (such as etotem1). The (e.g.) etotem1 alias will then set the (e.g.) etotem alias to (e.g.) etotem2. Then each time I hit my bind, it rotates between the aliases as desired. (and yes my assist and follow could or should be done by hitting in-game leaderless macros instead).

I believe Zanthor will be posting his binds, and he's got some other cool ideas going on, like a heal key that brings up the healer's window for manual targeting, since the PiP speed is fast enough.