5 manning with vista or xp?

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Originally Posted by 'pengwynman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=141968#p ost141968

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Originally Posted by 'hellsown',index.php?page=Thread&postID=141911#pos t141911

i got it downloaded....and installed..and i ran as admin.....................know idea how to get started...want to learn it....as pc's are my passion...but...just need a step in right direction...

3) Set your script execultion policy to run local scripts without a digital signature:
# Get-Help About_Signing
# Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned
# 4) Copy New-Wow.ps1 to somewhere in your path OR replace "new-wow" in the examples below
# with the script path.
#
# Examples:
# Copy default WoW location to c:\wow1:
# new-wow c:\wow1
#
# Copy default WoW location to c:\wow1 and c:\wow2:
# new-wow c:\wow1,c:\wow2
#
# Copy existing cuctem WoW location c:\wow1 to c:\wow2 and c:\wow3:
# new-wow c:\wow2,c:\wow3 -sourcePath c:\wow1
#
# If the script is not in your path:
# c:\somedir\new-wow.ps1 c:\wow1
#
# You can also use switches (standard PowerShell functionality
# new-wow -path c:\wow1,c:\wow2,c:\wow3 -source c:\oldwow
#
# Please be careful with -force -- it will automatically delete everything under the destination
# path:
# new-wow c:\wow1 -force
# ^-- *** deletes c:\wow1 and replaces it with a new copy of WoW! ***

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first off, you need to add a folder to your windows path (you can put scripts in this folder and run them from the command line)

1. Click Start and choose Control Panel
2. Click System, on the right you’ll see “View basic information about your computer”
3. On the left is a list of tasks, the last of which is “Advanced system settings.” Click that.
4. The Advanced tab of the System Properties dialog box is shown. Click the Environment Variables button on the bottom right.
5. In the lower box titled “System Variables” scroll down to Path and click the Edit button.
6. Change your path as need be.
7. you may need to restart your comp

-after you have a path set up (i used C:\bin as mine), copy the new-wow file to that path and change the extension from .txt to .ps1
-run powershell as admin
-run the following command: Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned
-now you can run the new-wow script using the examples... my primary wow folder isn't in C:\program files, so this is what i used:
new-wow c:\Games\symwow\wow1 -sourcePath "C:\Games\WoW"

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yes, hi, i read the thread...for the powershell script..but really being software illerate....it was all jibberish to me......I did however manage to follow the steps u listed above until the last gui screen comes up...and asks for system variables...then i got confused...with it

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Originally Posted by 'Ughmahedhurtz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=14199 6#post141996

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Originally Posted by 'Suvega',index.php?page=Thread&postID=141984#post1 41984

The computer should be fine for 5boxing on it, and I would recommend Windows Vista 64bit, for hte following reasons:
1) Symlink advice above :)
2) You state you ahve 4 gb of physical memory. This in combination to the video memory would be in excess of 4gb, which means it is impossible to use all of it in a 32bit OS.

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Good advice here, though symlinking will work fine on XP and Vista 32 as well (It's what I use on 3 of my boxes).

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For that matter, the 4GB thing is a 32-bit issue. 64-bit Windows will work, Vista or XP. So as far as I can tell, the advice was wrong on all points. Am I missing something?

Multiple monitors are handled a little differently between XP and Vista. So is audio. I have seen it suggested that XP is not prone to some of the display crashes Vista is when running many clients - but too many things can cause the crash in question so I think this is very uncertain.

Really, either should work, although they will work a little differently in some things. Pick the one you like better.

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Originally Posted by 'Suvega',index.php?page=Thread&postID=141984#post1 41984

Hey hellsown,

The computer should be fine for 5boxing on it, and I would recommend Windows Vista 64bit, for hte following reasons:
1) Symlink advice above :)
2) You state you ahve 4 gb of physical memory. This in combination to the video memory would be in excess of 4gb, which means it is impossible to use all of it in a 32bit OS.

Windows Vista 64bit is really a great operating system, I use it on all 5 of my computers. It was designed for NEW computers, and you want to ENSURE you have up to date drivers. Beyond that you shouldnt' have much issues :)

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Number 2 is incorrect 32 os can use all of the 4 gigs of memory if yeh dont see all 4 gigs its because its being used go figure.

the problem with vista is that it requires a considerable amount more memory then xp. vista needs about 2 gigs without paging anything out, where as Xp needs about 1 gig without paging anything out. If yer paging stuff yer hitting the hard drive which bogs everything down.

If yeh have vista and 4 gigs of ram yeh will always lag in major city its because of the paging.

that being said with yer current hardware yeh can 5 box without lag with xp
or if yeh got vista64 yeh can do the same as long as yeh have 6+ gigs of ram

So if yer hell bent on vista get vista 64 and 8 gigs of ram.

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Originally Posted by 'wowphreak',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142087#po st142087

Number 2 is incorrect 32 os can use all of the 4 gigs of memory if yeh dont see all 4 gigs its because its being used go figure.

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That's also false.

Well, there are exceptions, but not that matter for our purposes (badly implemented address extension tables, zero video memory). It's 64-bit if you want to use more than 4GB minus your video RAM.

32-bit Vista has been patched to "lie" and report the installed capacity in place of the usable capacity. This may be part of what misled you?

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well i tried to install xp, to no avail...as when rebooted after installation it couldnt/woulldnt boot windows up so i had to digress back to vista....i think that i just have to figure out how to use the symlinks or power shell script...but installing 64 i understand...that u can go up to 8 gigs of ram...but it also depends on ur motherboard? does it not? i have a feeling i will not be able to do that as my motherboard..is an emachine(gateway) from 1 1/2 years ago...

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Originally Posted by 'hellsown',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142219#pos t142219

[mysql][/mysql]

well i tried to install xp, to no avail...as when rebooted after installation it couldnt/woulldnt boot windows up so i had to digress back to vista....i think that i just have to figure out how to use the symlinks or power shell script...but installing 64 i understand...that u can go up to 8 gigs of ram...but it also depends on ur motherboard? does it not? i have a feeling i will not be able to do that as my motherboard..is an emachine(gateway) from 1 1/2 years ago...

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it may be limited by your motherboard yes, you may need to look at the documentation for your specific machine.

Windows Vista x64 Edition allows up to 128 GB of memory (doubt you need that much). a 32-bit OS can address a TOTAL of 4GB of memory. that means if you have a 512mb video card, the OS can address about 3.5 GB of system memory (assuming you have this much RAM, and no other components with a significant amount of memory). I was still using 32-bit vista when i got my GTX 280 (1gb of memory) so i really only had 3GB of addressable system memory. was pretty gay haha :P

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Originally Posted by 'wowphreak',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142087#po st142087

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Originally Posted by 'Suvega',index.php?page=Thread&postID=141984#post1 41984

Hey hellsown,

The computer should be fine for 5boxing on it, and I would recommend Windows Vista 64bit, for hte following reasons:
1) Symlink advice above :)
2) You state you ahve 4 gb of physical memory. This in combination to the video memory would be in excess of 4gb, which means it is impossible to use all of it in a 32bit OS.

Windows Vista 64bit is really a great operating system, I use it on all 5 of my computers. It was designed for NEW computers, and you want to ENSURE you have up to date drivers. Beyond that you shouldnt' have much issues :)

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Number 2 is incorrect 32 os can use all of the 4 gigs of memory if yeh dont see all 4 gigs its because its being used go figure.

the problem with vista is that it requires a considerable amount more memory then xp. vista needs about 2 gigs without paging anything out, where as Xp needs about 1 gig without paging anything out. If yer paging stuff yer hitting the hard drive which bogs everything down.

If yeh have vista and 4 gigs of ram yeh will always lag in major city its because of the paging.

that being said with yer current hardware yeh can 5 box without lag with xp
or if yeh got vista64 yeh can do the same as long as yeh have 6+ gigs of ram

So if yer hell bent on vista get vista 64 and 8 gigs of ram.

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You need a 64bit operating system to refrence any total memory past 4gb. That INCLUDES video memory, and MoBo memory.
So if you have 4gb of physical memory, and ANY video card, then you are not using all of your hardware. It is physically impossible to reference any system location larger then 2^32 :P

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Originally Posted by 'Suvega',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142360#post1 42360

It is physically impossible to reference any system location larger then 2^32 :P

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No. It just doesn't have an addressing table large enough. It can use indirect pointers, i.e. make extra table(s) and have the original table contain referential pointers. It's actually quite easy, just not nearly as fast or robust as the usual method. Also, the Microsoft implementation for their 32-bit desktop operating systems blows chunks. So for our purposes, it is close enough to say "4GB total including all other sources"...but "physically impossible" is just nonsense. A really simple way to do it - physically, no software involved - is just to hook several memory banks up through a multiplexer and slap a dip switch array on the control pins to switch which one it's talking to. And if you can do it with dip switches, you can give it to a computer to control thanks to the wonder of the transistor (well, even a vacuum tube could do it - you just need a gain circuit of any type, transistors are just the nifty extra-small modern method).

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Originally Posted by 'algol',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142111#post14 2111

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Originally Posted by 'wowphreak',index.php?page=Thread&postID=142087#po st142087

Number 2 is incorrect 32 os can use all of the 4 gigs of memory if yeh dont see all 4 gigs its because its being used go figure.

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That's also false.

Well, there are exceptions, but not that matter for our purposes (badly implemented address extension tables, zero video memory). It's 64-bit if you want to use more than 4GB minus your video RAM.

32-bit Vista has been patched to "lie" and report the installed capacity in place of the usable capacity. This may be part of what misled you?

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no just
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294418
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32-bit

As has been said in this thread, 4GB total, which for most of us means you cannot use 4GB of system RAM under 32-bit windows.