Why WoW will continue to dominate MMORPGs

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10-08-2008, 06:21 PM
Zite83

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Originally Posted by 'Fleecy',index.php?page=Thread&postID=132080#post1 32080

I think a part of WoWs success is its ability to run on significantly lower spec hardware relative to other games in the market -- be it MMORPG or other genres. Though, the minimum specifications have changed considerably over the last four years, as have technology advancements of course.

I will agree. I think WoWs main success was that it can run on almost everyone's computer. Blizzard did a great job looking at their data from past games and what player had for machines. Most of the time what I hear from other people is that WoW looks cartoonish and its graphics suck.. Wow.. what a shallow gamer.. Are gaphics everything these days..? What about plots and story lines.. What about ease of game play and fun.. Does that not matter anymore.. Is it that a good game is defined by how shallow the game play is and how that only the top 10% of gamers can even play it? WoW will last for a very very long time.. They have done almost everything perfect!
10-08-2008, 06:51 PM
mmcookies

maybe it's fishing for insights for whatever review is about to be written =p
10-08-2008, 06:57 PM
thinus
Things I don't like about WoW:
- Low poly dated graphics
- Cartoony models
- Grind grind grind grind grind PvE 5-man: Run instances ad nauseum to get required drops / rep / badges
- Grind grind grind grind grind PvE raid: Run raid instinces ad nauseum to gear a raid
- Grind grind grind grind grind PvP: tokens, honor
- Grind grind grind grind grind gold: dailies, motes, etc
- *EPIC FAIL* world PvP....bring back TM / SS, make faction leader raids viable again
- *EPIC FAIL* quick AVs for the honor grinders and ADD generation, give us back a BG with loads of NPCs and side objectives, ie the Ice Lord, that lasts for hours if not days
- *EPIC FAIL* arena / e-sport crap, its an MMORPG FFS and don't get me started on arena balancing decisions impacting PvE and world or BG pvp
- *EPIC FAIL* arena ranking / matching system, hello full S4 group against new 1500 team
- Overpowering, Mortal Striking, Executing, Hamstringing, Plate Wearing, AoE Fearing, Rending machines of death and destruction. Oh wait, let's address the balance issue in WotLK by giving Fury a MS except its a melee proc so they don't have to dump rage on it and make them dual wield two 2Hers.
- Class system (I am probably in the minority here but I hate class based systems, pure skill based system is where its at)
- Cookie cutter specs due to useless, weak or broken talents/abilities/spells
There is plenty wrong with WoW but I agree there simply isn't anything better and I don't see anyone out there innovative enough to make a MMORPG that improves on the weaknesses in WoW.
10-08-2008, 07:02 PM
Ellay

Actually Suvega the Iphone apparently has some pretty strong competition on the horizon :) something google is making, dunno ><
10-08-2008, 07:13 PM
ChaoticMonk

I thaught the "google phone" turned out to be an open source SDK for phones? ?(
10-08-2008, 07:14 PM
thinus

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Originally Posted by 'Zite83',index.php?page=Thread&postID=132173#post1 32173

Most of the time what I hear from other people is that WoW looks cartoonish and its graphics suck.. Wow.. what a shallow gamer.. Are gaphics everything these days..?

No, graphics are not everything but it is what you look at ALL the time while playing the game.

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What about plots and story lines.. What about ease of game play and fun.. Does that not matter anymore..

So you can't have good graphics, good plot and good story lines? Improving the graphics is going to make the story line suck maybe? Improving the graphics is going to make gameplay more complex? Oh wait, maybe better graphics will make it less fun, that must be it.

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Is it that a good game is defined by how shallow the game play is and how that only the top 10% of gamers can even play it? WoW will last for a very very long time.. They have done almost everything perfect!

Try taking off those rose coloured glasses.
10-08-2008, 07:33 PM
Tasty

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Originally Posted by 'Suvega',index.php?page=Thread&postID=132170#post1 32170

For comparison sake, I offer a similar argument:

iPhone will continue to dominate the cellphone market today, and in the future.

With a smooth ui, fun animations, and the ability for developers to add additional content, iPhone will stay in a dominant position.

Sometimes it sufferes from a security flaw or two, but the UI is very clean and fun to play with.

I love my Iphone, its awesome. IT DOESN'T DO TASKS IN OUTLOOK WTF!?

also

Knights of the Old Republic Online will kill WoW :D
10-08-2008, 07:34 PM
Tasty
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'thinus',index.php?page=Thread&postID=132178#post1 32178

Things I don't like about WoW:

Low poly dated graphics
Cartoony models
Grind grind grind grind grind PvE 5-man: Run instances ad nauseum to get required drops / rep / badges
Grind grind grind grind grind PvE raid: Run raid instinces ad nauseum to gear a raid
Grind grind grind grind grind PvP: tokens, honor
Grind grind grind grind grind gold: dailies, motes, etc
*EPIC FAIL* world PvP....bring back TM / SS, make faction leader raids viable again
*EPIC FAIL* quick AVs for the honor grinders and ADD generation, give us back a BG with loads of NPCs and side objectives, ie the Ice Lord, that lasts for hours if not days
*EPIC FAIL* arena / e-sport crap, its an MMORPG FFS and don't get me started on arena balancing decisions impacting PvE and world or BG pvp
*EPIC FAIL* arena ranking / matching system, hello full S4 group against new 1500 team
Overpowering, Mortal Striking, Executing, Hamstringing, Plate Wearing, AoE Fearing, Rending machines of death and destruction. Oh wait, let's address the balance issue in WotLK by giving Fury a MS except its a melee proc so they don't have to dump rage on it and make them dual wield two 2Hers.
Class system (I am probably in the minority here but I hate class based systems, pure skill based system is where its at)
Cookie cutter specs due to useless, weak or broken talents/abilities/spells

There is plenty wrong with WoW but I agree there simply isn't anything better and I don't see anyone out there innovative enough to make a MMORPG that improves on the weaknesses in WoW.
Good god it makes me wonder why you even bother with MMORPGS at this point in time lol. If I didn't like WoW and there was nothing better I'd switch genres for a while :O
10-08-2008, 08:05 PM
valkry

They are making Faction leader raids viable again...remove it from your list please.
10-08-2008, 08:31 PM
Fleecy

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Originally Posted by 'Tasty',index.php?page=Thread&postID=132196#post13 2196

Knights of the Old Republic Online will kill WoW :D

I was saying that about Conan. It took me 5 hours to drop my collectors edition and go back to WoW :) Though, I do have great hopes for KotORO.

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