Anyone else think war is crud?

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Originally Posted by 'Ughmahedhurtz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=12363 2#post123632

I think you guys miss his entire point. If the game is that hard to get into and dumps on him regularly, why should he be generous? Also, graphics appearance is a subjective measure for most people, so his opinion is entirely valid. I haven't played it and have no intention of playing it so I have no vested interest either way. Just saying, after the whining I see about WoWs little glitches, this is fairly tame for someone that has this much trouble just getting the game to run stable.

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What? His point sounds like a rant from his failure to install and 1 hour of gaming with some more ill-conception that a heartstone is a WoW original.

I could have ranted when WoW's release was SHIT, but it was tolerable shit compared to Anarchy Online Release, or EQ 1 release.

WoW. Server: Archimonde. The server crashed several times during the day with wait queues. There were even 4 and 8 hours down times. Then after maybe 72 hours, they said Archimonde server will be down maybe 1 week--but that's after I had at least a level 20. Painful as it was, my guild decided to start over another PvP server, and we're behind the level curve.

WAR. Server: Skull Throne. There were some server crashes, but no down time. Wait queue was 20 minutes on prime time. Zero queue before prime time, and mayeb 5 minute queue after prime time. Skull Throne is also 1 of 4 server that was Full with many other server not having a wait queue. Mythic's solution is to clone the entire server in the morning of Release giving guilds a choice to play in the wait queue or move on to a new server without level disruption.

It is not a matter of how good WoW is or if WAR is a WoW killer. They are 2 different games with being of the same MMO genre. What I see is the evolution of "good for the gamers" coming out from the mistakes previous MMOs experienced.

Mythic got some good experience from DAoC. Blizzard has some from Battle.Net, but WoW was their first MMO. Either way, I as a gamer benefit from how well these company handle issues. I can tell you that Sony EQ sucked at the time, but it was also one of the first massive MMO released. Blizzard and Mythic learned from Sony/Verant's mistakes.

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Originally Posted by 'Sanctume',index.php?page=Thread&postID=123666#pos t123666

I could have ranted when WoW's release was SHIT, but it was tolerable shit compared to Anarchy Online Release, or EQ 1 release.

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He speaks truth. This was one of the best launches I've ever seen if not the best launch.

His (Youngceo) complaining is on par with someone accusing Keyclone of stealing his account password when he had a Trojan on his PC. If you're having problems installing a freaking game when most people aren't look at your setup first before talking crap.

It's not fair to compare the launch of games that came out 4+ years ago to a game coming out now. WoW's launch wasn't amazing in terms of the stability, but that was a very long time ago now. WAR is competing with WoW *now*. Anyway, unless stability remains a problem, it shouldn't matter in the long term. I haven't played WAR so I can't comment. I just wanted to see some opinions on the game itself. I think they're making a big mistake to not try to compete with WoW on all fronts, though. They're marketing the PVP aspects up, but since I'm mostly a PVE player they're basically not even trying to get my business that way. There's no reason that a game as huge as a MMO can't have it all in one game. I want to see if this is all just bad marketing or if it's really just all about the PVP.

EDIT: It sounds like WAR is fairly stable anyhow.

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Originally Posted by 'Ughmahedhurtz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=12363 2#post123632

I think you guys miss his entire point. If the game is that hard to get into and dumps on him regularly, why should he be generous? Also, graphics appearance is a subjective measure for most people, so his opinion is entirely valid. I haven't played it and have no intention of playing it so I have no vested interest either way. Just saying, after the whining I see about WoWs little glitches, this is fairly tame for someone that has this much trouble just getting the game to run stable.

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It's about as hard to get into as a child proof bottle of aspirin. You can figure out what that means.

Yes, warhammer is very fun.

WoW is much more polished, but WoW has had several years to polish itself up. The PVP is very balanced, only a couple classes out of 20 or so that are kind of weak at the moment. It's a very smooth release compared to typical mmo releases. There's no way it could flop now. It's going to be extremely sucessful. Will it kill WoW? Not yet at least, but maybe eventually if WoW doesn't get on it's game. Forums and community in WAR are much different than WoW. WoW is full of crying, while WAR has very little and mostly by people who don't know how to use a PC very well.

haha.. damn theres some angry little kids in here.If your wondering what im talking about with the install probs, ALL of the australian released dvd's are bogus my mates that bought the shit had the same problem. After install it doesnt even leave a .exe and the warpatcher doesnt even load, so you gotta go googling the problem till you find a fix to download just to get it started. Then once you done that the war.exe game wont even load it still, just blackscreens, on both my machines and all my friends, you have to run the patcher just to get into it. Apparently im asking too much for a game to just be able to install, patch and run these days.

I just feel more sorry for the millions of parents of kids like Sanctume who will bring the game home and not even be able to get it started.

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Forums and community in WAR are much different than WoW

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Theres not even any 'official' forums on their site so you can read about people not happy with the game, AOC did the same thing, you couldnt read the forums until you bought an account. Then the forums I managed to find linked to are plastered with ads, very professional :thumbsup:. Community didnt seem much different either, first battleground "sorry scenario:whistling:" I go into the chat is filled with "just let them win" hahaLooks to me like the only people seriously into the game are the one addicted to wow and hoping it will be the "wow killer" its hyped upto be to hopefully cure their addiction, doesnt matter how shit the game is there will still be the likes of Sanctume here praising how godlike it is and noone should think any different

Sanctume you sound like a angry little mmo addict, sorry for knocking your little game. good luck with life :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by 'Youngceo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=123824#pos t123824

haha.. damn theres some angry little kids in here.If your wondering what im talking about with the install probs, ALL of the australian released dvd's are bogus my mates that bought the shit had the same problem. After install it doesnt even leave a .exe and the warpatcher doesnt even load, so you gotta go googling the problem till you find a fix to download just to get it started. Then once you done that the war.exe game wont even load it still, just blackscreens, on both my machines and all my friends, you have to run the patcher just to get into it. Apparently im asking too much for a game to just be able to install, patch and run these days.

I just feel more sorry for the millions of parents of kids like Sanctume who will bring the game home and not even be able to get it started.

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Forums and community in WAR are much different than WoW

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Theres not even any 'official' forums on their site so you can read about people not happy with the game, AOC did the same thing, you couldnt read the forums until you bought an account. Then the forums I managed to find linked to are plastered with ads, very professional :thumbsup:. Community didnt seem much different either, first battleground "sorry scenario:whistling:" I go into the chat is filled with "just let them win" hahaLooks to me like the only people seriously into the game are the one addicted to wow and hoping it will be the "wow killer" its hyped upto be to hopefully cure their addiction, doesnt matter how shit the game is there will still be the likes of Sanctume here praising how godlike it is and noone should think any different

Sanctume you sound like a angry little mmo addict, sorry for knocking your little game. good luck with life :thumbsup:

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LOL U. Sorry you like downunder.

How did I wind up in the wow general board.

*Looks around confused*

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Originally Posted by 'Youngceo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=123824#pos t123824

haha.. damn theres some angry little kids in here.If your wondering what im talking about with the install probs, ALL of the australian released dvd's are bogus my mates that bought the shit had the same problem. After install it doesnt even leave a .exe and the warpatcher doesnt even load, so you gotta go googling the problem till you find a fix to download just to get it started. Then once you done that the war.exe game wont even load it still, just blackscreens, on both my machines and all my friends, you have to run the patcher just to get into it. Apparently im asking too much for a game to just be able to install, patch and run these days.

I just feel more sorry for the millions of parents of kids like Sanctume who will bring the game home and not even be able to get it started.

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Forums and community in WAR are much different than WoW

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Theres not even any 'official' forums on their site so you can read about people not happy with the game, AOC did the same thing, you couldnt read the forums until you bought an account. Then the forums I managed to find linked to are plastered with ads, very professional :thumbsup:. Community didnt seem much different either, first battleground "sorry scenario:whistling:" I go into the chat is filled with "just let them win" hahaLooks to me like the only people seriously into the game are the one addicted to wow and hoping it will be the "wow killer" its hyped upto be to hopefully cure their addiction, doesnt matter how shit the game is there will still be the likes of Sanctume here praising how godlike it is and noone should think any different

Sanctume you sound like a angry little mmo addict, sorry for knocking your little game. good luck with life :thumbsup:

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I'm new around here... mostly lurking, but I have been playing in the WAR headstart so I thought I'd chime in.

The game works fine for people in Australia... once you overcome the problems. From what I read there was some kind of problem with the manufacturing of the disks in Australia (like a bad duplicator or something), so a lot of the disks were corrupted all in the same way. To fix it you had to download the patcher executable (which you could get from the support web site) and then run it to download the missing files. You also needed to patch again with full file scan to repair the corrupted files otherwise you get the black screens and such. Once you do all that, the game works great and most of the problems you are mentioning go away. It has been really stable for me, I have only ever crashed once in several days of play. It sucks that those disks are messed up but at least they are trying to fix the problem. The fact that WAR actually has servers in Australia is a first to begin with, nobody else has even bothered to put servers there.

Its not the ideal game for everyone but if you enjoy PvP then WAR is where you want to play. DAOC (Mythic's older MMO - back from the EQ1 days) used to be the only decent PvP focused game on the block, but Mythic learned a lot from that game, and WAR has now blown DAOC away there. I'm sure it will become more polished as they get more time to work on that stuff... MMO's are never done when they launch, it takes 6+ months post launch before they really start to shine.

You can't really accuse WAR of stealing ideas from WoW, they didn't really invent any of that stuff... Blizzard lifted a lot of its ideas from DAOC and EQ, and just added some polish. If anything WAR is really an evolved DAOC... most of the core mechanics are very similar, and they have all those same features in that game.

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Originally Posted by 'Youngceo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=123501#pos t123501

First the install doesnt want to give me a .exe, and the patcher doesnt want to load, so I go googlin for one that works. Finally get it patched so I run it, and it locks up about 5sec into the menus, try to get back in and it black screens me (this is on my fresh laptop aswell, not just 1 pc). After about half an hour I finally get in...

Sorry but I dont get whats so special about it, they've ripped most of it off wow (with new words yay) and the graphics look horrid. I was expecting something at least fun to look at but its just horrid and runs pretty average for what looks pretty poor.

So after about an hour of playing I go to use my hearthstone ripoff and the game just quits on me... didnt bother loading it back up after that. One of my mates hasnt bought it yet so hes buying my copy, Might try it in 6 months once things are working properly if it hasnt sunk already to the ocean floor next to Age of conan.

Queue the QQ of hyped up fanboys.... now :thumbsup:

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When I installed I noticed it didn't place an exe on my desktop as well, so I did what any average joe computer user would do and went through C:/programfiles/EA/Warhammer Online folder and created the shortcut myself with the exe. file inside that folder.

The graphics suck, if your computer sucks. Plain and simple, I'll post some in game screenies when I get home and everyone can see what the game really looks like instead of what it looks like on a 1995 macintosh.

Yes, It does borrow ideas from World of WarUltimaEverquestCamelotCraft Online.

I find it hilarious how the only people crying about the release are people who didn't update their directx recently, don't know what directx is, can't find an exe file after downloading it into a folder named warhammer, and say the graphics are bad because they have a 4 year old PC.

It's a great game. WoW's a great game. I'm glad they're both great games.