can't get over 1600 in 5v5 with 4 elemental shamans + 1 heal druid or 5 elementalshamans

But guys... if your druid dies in the start of the battle before you have nuked 1 down then he is doing something wrong.. He should stay stealthed insite your bunker of huge shammys + millions of totems. No teams should be able to even touch him untill 3 seconds after the first dps have landed on you..

Also.. Druid have Alot higher burst healing then a pally.. And i'm not talking NS + HT... By doing a rej + swiftmend, he can heal 5-8k in 2 sec instant cast. each 15 sec.. Sure pallyes are all fine.. but there is no reason to ditch a druid and get a pally tbh! Dont missdirect a guy like that..

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Originally Posted by 'xtobbenx',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114260#pos t114260

No teams should be able to even touch him untill 3 seconds after the first dps have landed on you..

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Seriously? If my druid stays inactive for 3sec after the first DPS has started on us, I'm dead even faster.

People see druid buffs on us, they know we have one. If they want to focus him, they wait a little bit longer.

(Maybe the druid shouldn't buff the shamans, more that I think about it)

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Originally Posted by 'xtobbenx',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114260#pos t114260

But guys... if your druid dies in the start of the battle before you have nuked 1 down then he is doing something wrong.. He should stay stealthed insite your bunker of huge shammys + millions of totems. No teams should be able to even touch him untill 3 seconds after the first dps have landed on you..

Also.. Druid have Alot higher burst healing then a pally.. And i'm not talking NS + HT... By doing a rej + swiftmend, he can heal 5-8k in 2 sec instant cast. each 15 sec.. Sure pallyes are all fine.. but there is no reason to ditch a druid and get a pally tbh! Dont missdirect a guy like that..

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A druid is a sitting duck inside the starting room of lord'da whatever ruis.

Belive me you will not keep someone up with rev+swiftmend if hes dps'ed by 3 players only my paladin manages that unless hes not interrupted, and if your druid starts out with rej/swiftmend it actually takes ages before rej+life bloom starts to get effective again. Druids are just as easy counterspelled as a paladin. And if the shamans fails to put real pressure on the enemy healers the priest will spam dispell the druid hots wich reduce his healing to 1k now and then.

If you play with a druid you have to focus ALOT more on los'ing alot of the damage while a paladin can heal trought alot of damage. Cyclone great vs frost mages indeed since you can first cyclone the mage then the pet wich totaly f*cks up his burst rotation but BoF works wonder since he cant be shattered aswell.

I broke 1800 rating yesterday. I'm switching between pally and druid.

I agree that the pally have superior healing, but the druid have other assets that requires your play style to differ a bit, but it may be just as good.

My druid healer have a moonkin/resto spec. He's usually staying in moonkin form when we open up. This is very nice for cyclone and helping me finnishing someone. For this to work, you need to have a hotkey ready for healing everyone in your team, including the druid.

Often the other team decides to attack the moonkin. If they do, its a big mistake. I have no problem both healing him, then nuking some melee down since they now are a bit on range from me. He make sure that he kites them a bit away from me and any LoS object so it is easyer to nuke them down. While druids is in moonkin, they can still cast cyclone and roots, so your CC will be much better even though your healing is lacking a bit.

so i my humble opinion on pallys vs druid healers:

Its all about your ability to adapt your playstyle as a boxer.

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Originally Posted by 'cepheus',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114403#post 114403

so i my humble opinion on pallys vs druid healers:

Its all about your ability to adapt your playstyle as a boxer.

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this.
Gz Zog, btw, i saw ur rating on Armory yesterday :)

One thing not mentioned that a druid has over a pali is an AOE heal that really works great if they are not focused at the start. This is situational but works great against any incoming aoe damage.

Needless to say, I have had zero success in arenas thus far, but only do the minimum games each week. Also ran 10 losses last week just to get points when my healer was out of town. Still get more points with a horrible 5v5 than a decent 2v2, lol, but it would be nice to get up to the 1600+ before wotlk.

1694 yesterday :((((
than i lost a lot of points aganinst a crap geared team with good teamplay :(((