[WotLK] Bloodlust/Heroism change - no more round robin

I'm not too thrilled with the beta. I probably should thank blizzard as I think they've finally kicked my wow habit. If I stick around I'm pretty certain I'll be going back down to 1 account from 8. I definately will not play either of my healers again.(priest or shammy). Some felt BC was the tank shortage expansion despite druids and pallys being made more viable, but I think in Wrath it will be the healers that vanish. Once I've got my 5xshamans and pally+4 shadow priest groups to 60 (stuck at 41-43 now) I was planning to gift level a warlock and druid to 60 and hunter to 60 as the only classes I've never played past 20-30, and see if any of those will revive my interest. I was excited to try the death knight but after a few weeks in beta that wore off fairly quick as well.

I just want to see new content but blizzard seems to be bent on making wholesale changes to the game with each expansion and it is growing tiresome for me at least.

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=112422#po st112422

possibly a Shadow Priest for the mana regen (unless they end up sucking badly.. early beta reports have points to SPriests being worthless)

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I've been disappointed with my Spriest since TBC was rolled out. He used to do well in pvp pre-tbc , since then pvp on him has sucked. Oh, but you can come to our raid and be a mana battery, and shackle, and dispel! no thanks. I had hopes they would figure it out, I guess he will continue to stand in the bank and do pots and transmutes for me...

The game has lost a lot of appeal to me. It's like they want to have just two classes, casters and melee. Everything will be the same except one caster will shoot blue lasers and the other caster shoots green lasers... They're just ripping the depth completely out of the game to make it more new player friendly. F-that. The loss of stacking of most totems sucked, now the loss of heroicism/bloodlust rotating is probably the killer for me. Not sure if I'm going to continue. I really dislike the direction they're going with the game, as a boxer or soloist. Stacking, synergies, and min/maxing is something that keeps me interested. I'm almost positive I'm going to drop WoW for a few months to give Warhammer a shot now.

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=112422#po st112422

For multiboxers...... ONLY ONE TOTEM OF WRATH! Flametounge totem is worthless to us (Wrath of Air = Spell haste now).

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Flametongue in it's current fashion gives +spell damage now (and from the category it's listed it), not increases haste. My big concern is if the self cast Flametongue weapon buff will stack with Totem of Wrath. If not, it's completely useless for shamans in general since an elemental shaman will always have flametongue on their weapon for the +damage.

The bloodlust/heroism changes were expected, and they won't stack with wrath of air anyway.

Moonkin Earth and Moon changes seem excessive considering the change to Misery.

It was fun while it lasted. but from the moment the Drums nerf came in we could have all seen this coming.

Especially the bloodlust/hero nerf :)

Ah well, we'll see how it goes when retail hits and how viable 4 shammies still are, i got a gut feeling it'll be quite a bit less. but still very doable.

Just alot less Brute force style.

I'm getting flashbacks of SWG [NGE], lol.

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Originally Posted by 'Naysayer',index.php?page=Thread&postID=112516#pos t112516

I'm getting flashbacks of SWG [NGE], lol.

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OMG....Please don't remind me. :(

This thread made me sad, untill I realised I have never had to stack it before, as any boss is down within 40 secs in 5 mans.

I won't personally see it as any kind of loss, and it definately should not have worked the way it does now if it was raidwide. So all in all, my initial gut reaction over a "nerf" was wrong again.

This really stirs my shit. These changes seem to be VERY focused on raid mechanics.

Does blizzard even realize how much mass dispell spam is encountered in arena? This has to be changed, because it vastly fucks up arena mechanics of shaman.

I thought Blizzard wanted to relax the spec requirements for raiding. This latest update looks like it will force a lot of players into specs, because they have disabled most same spec synergies from stacking.

So if a raiding guild has several players of the same class, these players will be forced to have disjunct talent specs to maximize synergies. Bleh, 100% shit changes.