It was the staple comp, pretty much the end all be all makeup for end of Season 1 and all of Season 2. Saying it was as easy as pushing buttons 2-3-4-5.
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It was the staple comp, pretty much the end all be all makeup for end of Season 1 and all of Season 2. Saying it was as easy as pushing buttons 2-3-4-5.
I don't even burn more than one bloodlust on this team until I've dropped the ele shaman or frost mage. The disc priests on my BG would rather just mass dispel spam me to remove my prayer of mendings, shields, and water shields. They're going to mass dispel spam regardless, so why bother burning a 2nd or 3rd bloodlust?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Nixi',index.php?page=Thread&postID=104450#post104 450
We've hit this combo 19 times and won 12 of them. (We actually did worse against an enhancement shammy in this combo, which i find suprising - looking back through historian nearly ever team was tauren x2 blood elf x2, which explains those losses). The biggest thing I've found against these teams is that, they know who your target is just by looking at you, and they'll los you once you switch targets. I use focus on all my shaman to mask my intended target, and keep my 2nd target as my real target. Then by using /cast [target=focus, exists, nodead] [target=target] <spell name> I can easily keep my dps constant, and not have to worry about switching - nor can they see who my first target to die is.
I have a much harder time with Eurocomps. Too many sheeps/cyclones/kicks on my healer, and far far too much burst and LoS possibilites.
So you use focus for your intended target and /assist for the main ? How do you deal with the main dying.
All of my spells are macroed on my other 4 (i rotate my 4th between 2 shammies since I do normally 5 box, but 4 box in arena), 2nd shammy in line has /assist [target=Shaggir, nodead], 3rd shammy in line has /assist [target=Shaggir, nodead], [target=Shaggira, nodead], etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Ellay',index.php?page=Thread&postID=104747#post10 4747
Basically, whenever i attempt to cast a spell, lightning bolt, chain lighting, purge, shocks, etc., the macro will always look at whichever Shagg is alive in order and attempt to retarget. I use a 4 button mouse so my 4th mouse button moves the current target to focus and clears the target, and my 5th mouse button clears my focus (in case my focus target is out of range, or if mid fight someone needs to be moved up in prority) and then I can refocus if necessary. Usually by this point, it's not - as someone is dead and it's 4v5.
The only spells in which I don't use /cast [target=focus, exists, nodead] [target=target] are purge and flame shock, since i use those to bait people out. If my main shagg dies, I just maximize the next shagg in line and all the macros are set to have the other followers see him now as the main, and my ui is identical, with proximo, spell alerter etc. So it's an easy transition.
It's funny when I face 2345 teams, and have the mage as my "target" and the shaman as my focus. I see the pally and priest spamming heals on the mage, as I'm casting lightning bolt followed by instant and the shammy drops dead. It completely confuses healers so they can't chase your heals easy, they have to see the first volley fly before they know who's going to get hit - and hunters always get focused just so it's easier to make sure they're really dead and not just fded.
Edit: I'm hitting the same problem you were having. No one above me will q against me, and we face some consistency issues against teams. Hunter/mage/warlock combos seem to just be the death of us, esp in blade's edge when I do manage to kill someone we can't stop the rezzes because of frost aura/entrapment. We did fight a fun 4 rogue/holy pally team that was in the 1600s, and won all 3 games. But this play a game to win 3-4 pts, and then face some other team that simply gets lucky and loose 22 is for the birds.
Alemi,
I'm still a bit confused as to your setup.
I've done the
/assist [target=toona,nodead,exists] [target=toonb,nodead,exists] [target=toonc,nodead,exists]
method before, and then i used
/cast [target=target] spell
I see you use,
/cast [target=focustarget,exists,nodead] [target=target] spell
for everything except purge and flame shock.
Do you mean you use,
/cast [target=focus,exists,nodead] [target=target] spell
because if you used the afforementioned macro [target=focustarget,exists] then you'd have to be using focus on your alts to focus your main toon.
How do you use flameshock and purge?
Yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks for pointing out my typo (responding while waiting for a q to pop will do that to you) :P I've edited my previous post to correct for my mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Nixi',index.php?page=Thread&postID=105039#post105 039
/cast [target=focus,exists,nodead] [target=target] spell
Flame shock and purge have the standard /assist portion that I laid out, so they acquire my main's target asap and just have the standard /cast [target=target] Flame Shock, /cast [target=target] Purge. Mostly for three reasons. 1- on those teams that send a hunter or mage up to multishot/viper sting or flame shock, respectively, I don't want to waste the mana on a LB/CL combo, hoping for a lucky crit. I'd rather just purge them off and flame shock to cause a little panic. If I was purging or flame shocking my focus target, the team can easily see who that target is - so this allows me to put some pressure on them while still hiding my intended target. 2- I've found that flame shock on a mage will cause them to burn their IB to drop them, esp if their healers aren't around and they're afraid of the instant follow up, and when I have rogue(s) around me, I want them to burn their cloak and put it on CD asap. Since rogues start arena stealthed, and if I'm lucky enough to spot them coming up to sap my healer, I want to be able to flame shock them out of stealth ASAP. This allows me to do that, without having to worry about deselecting/reselecting my focus. 3- I want to purge icy veins/innervate/power infusion as soon as they're popped, purge is not a spell i want to have to worry about it picking my focus - on the same note. It also allows me to target the warrior as he comes in and purge him, which generally means that he's going defensive thinking he's going to be pounded upon, and then launch lightning bolts/cls at my intended target.
I did this, mostly from playing 2s on my shaman or druid, when it's critical that I earth shock heals/poly/cyclone or chain cc someone in 2s. I'd use a /stopcasting, /cast [target=focus] Earth Shock macro a lot or a /cast [target=focus] Cyclone. I thought about branching it out, since a lot of the teams I play now watch my target. If I'm all targetting the mage on a team, the other 4 will rush in and leave the mage out of the fight until I switch targets, and that person would flee/los/bubble/drop a ground/jump off the bridge (I HATE BRIDGE JUMPING TEAMS WITH A PASSION), etc. and the mage would come in. I realized that they're just sitting in their vent saying "He's target <a>. Swap out. He's switched to [b]. He's back to <a>." So many teams on my bgs are all ranged, or 4 ranged + 1 warrior who would just pop defensive/spell reflect and intervene off to a healer out of range of me. It got old and I needed a way to mask my target, and it took a while to get used to, but has paid off dividends now.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I've never had a problem with a team following my main's target around until this week when i crested 1800 and pushed up to 1890. In this range there are still teams that are easy to beat, but then i'll come up against smart players who I can't beat given my current tactics. I'll have to wise up a bit and out fox them if I want to break into the 1900's and beyond. I might fall back on the assist method for following my main to free up focus. I used to do this exclusively when i first started boxing with my pve team, but adopted focus at a later date because 1) my paladin didn't need anyone to sheep or CC anything, and 2) I was switching out mains a lot for various tasks. (boosting, questing, etc) and I couldnt' stand an assist macro that had 11 character names. I 10 box sometimes so focus was easy to manage.
Try telling that to my healer when i have MS on several of my shaman :xQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Elektric',index.php?page=Thread&postID=104226#pos t104226