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Everyone the multi-boxes with a prot pally should have this website permanently bookmarked. The above link specifically addresses level 60-69 prot pally particulars.
It's the net, use it!
If this is your first multibox group, give it until 62 until you go in there, IMO. The bosses crush you if you go in at <60, which makes it a lot harder than it needs to be. I don't usually bother with ramparts at the lower levels just because I can quest and level a lot faster than grinding with crappy gear in there.
with my 5 Shaman..
@59 wiped a few times on the trash, those destroyers just chopped my guys up, learned to take them out first.
@60 wiped on one bad pull, made it to the first boss, killed one of the healers, but wiped with the boss chopping my guys up one by one.
@61 made it to the first boss, killed both adds, got him to 12% before I wiped as he chopped my guys up one by one.
Will quest some and try it again @62
Edit:
@62 could burst down the first and second boss no problem, had issues with the dragon
@63 Cleared pretty easy.
I tried a run at Ramps at 60. Was having too much trouble holding aggro and staying alive to be productive.. didn't make it to 1st boss.
I tried a run at Ramps again at 62. Worked my way through 1st and 2nd bosses.. got the 3rd boss after a few wipes. Too much gold lost in repairs and time spent working through the instance to be productive.
I ran a few times at lvl 63-64, and it became very easily surprisingly fast. The gear you get in HFP and Zang make a BIG difference. Except for the +defense blue trinket from the HFP group quest, I believe every piece of gear I had was for +spell damage. I had around 250-300 at level 65 on my pally back then. I was going +spell damage on the shammies too, so I could nearly go all-out on dps while still holding aggro. With the lack of +defense worn, I did need to heal more often though. Look at the quest rewards at wowhead for HFP, Zang, and Terokkar, and do ALL quests that give your paladin +spell damage or +defense/dodge/parry/block, and +spell damage for your shammies - don't be afraid to mix in cloth/leather gear when you need to.
Once I was easily cleaning out Ramps at 63-64, I tried BF and SP, and they were both a breeze. In short, quest for all gear slots, while gaining a couple levels while you're at it. Then do instances for easy loot and vendor trash for gold.
Looking back, I should have been gearing my pally with more damage mitigation, while aiming for around 125-200 spell damage, and always keeping BoSalv on the shammies (I was using Wisdom most of the time, except on bosses.) That -30% threat makes a HUGE difference.. having that on means you don't need massive spell damage on the pally, and you can focus on defensive stats to not take as much damage.
Being able to resist some of the spell damage/effects in there helps a TON, too. You won't always get everything with groundings, and the stuff in there hurts at <60. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by '-silencer-',index.php?page=Thread&postID=104412#post104412
I quested HF and Zangar first, then I hit ramps and bf at about 62-63. Had difficulty at first, but once I figured out boss strats, not too bad. 58 would be incredibly tough w/o gear.
I got my 3 shammy's to 58 and went through the portal.
Decided I would try A hellfire ramparts with my son - a 65 warrior (not prot specced) and my daughters 66 hunter.
It was painful, but some of the best multiboxing fun I've had to date.
My shaman have less than 40 spell damage (their gear is pitiful). My son failed to hold aggro (he's rusty on his warrior but I've seen him hold aggro with higher levels in there before). My setup was pretty poor. My totem selection was the default selection from Ken's castsequence macros. I need to get a anti melee macro set and an anti caster macro set for the heavy melee/mixed caster groups in there.
I only had lesser healing wave macroed up - need to do the same for chain and normal healing wave.
Despite that we did far better than I thought we would - and if this is the worst it can throw at me I can't wait to get in there properly.
I'll have to go and take a look at some of the many videos to get some tips.
Not sure what to tell you. I got to the first boss with 4 shammies and no tank my first time in at 61, i had all hellfire quest gear.
I"ve done most the quests for gear in HFP and @ 61 I'm sitting on 250~ spell damage and 12% crit. I'll be just over 300 spell damage when I hit Zangar tonight and finish 6 quests. The gear I'm getting is far from ZOMGPerfect but it's significantly better than the level 40 mail I was wearing!Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Tizer',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103444#post10 3444
When I first went through the dark portal I tried instances also. I was pretty bummed at how many problems I was having with the trash in ramparts and the first boss. I finally got him down after a couple attempts. My next attempts were blood furnance. I was able to get the first boss down but couldn't deal with the gauntlet before the 2nd boss. Often times during trash I would lose a couple toons. When this first started happening I had a sick feeling. Did I just waste alot of money/time and I can't even finish a freakin instance?
Fast forward to now. I can clear several heroics without a problem.
All the instances you are going to try you might have problems with. You just need to put the time in and learn the pulls/tactics.
My advice is go level. There is really no reason gearing up your toons with instance drops before 70.