Vyn, I'm rly sorry to hear about all that, but also very glad to hear you're out of that place (pitty about all that time and energy wasted :S). That GM is a complete asshat.Quote:
While that's understandable in some fashion, I just want to make sure you realize that this "drama" you're trying to avoid most likely did not stem with the girl. It's the "immature boys" that you're trying to avoid.
Which, of course, you're going to continue to have. But instead of QQing about some girl they'll be QQing about loot distribution and DKP and "why did I not get an invite to the raid?!" and then ninja-afk'ing in the middle of a pull and yelling mass profanities and chuck norris jokes in /gchat.
So, I guess what I'm saying is -- by avoiding the females in order to avoid the drama that immature boys have when they're near them, you're really trying to avoid the immature boys. And since you're really not avoiding the immature boys at all..... get my drift?
Besides, I had been in this guild 4-5 months as "friend status" and caused no major fuss. Nor did the other few females in that guild. In fact, our MT's and OT's cause more drama between themselves than I can ever imagine causing.
as for this whole drama thing. I have to side with Vyn on her last point. From personal experience I don't think I would want to be in a guild that was all male. We have several female players in it, officers and regular members/raiders, and I don't think I've come across a more sedate and friendly bunch (in WoW at least - this webby is a close second. altho there are some of you out there with bees under your bonnet ^^). My guild has got very good at weeding out trouble makers (to some degree of tolerance) and most of that can be solely attributed to having female members.
Anyone showing them little respect, simply for them being female doesn't last very long. Not because we are overprotective (altho that reason alone, is justification for a boot imo), but because those same ppl often show similar trends in other aspects of their personality, and eventually leave, through sheer frustration at how many of us are, or because they are eventually booted for being asses. Most of the drama that is ever caused in our guild, is by those members. Fortunately we have very few, if at all.
I have heard of quite a few guild breakups over my wow time, where at the heart of the split a girl is involved in some capacity or another. But I think that is often emphasised to a disproportionate degree, simply because many players still think of female gamers as something of a rarity and therefore feel the need to highlight that fact.
Oh and a final note. that Nihilum thing was a joke! I do find it rather amusing to be honest how that was covered tho.
"NIHILUM don't accept girls into their guild!!"It was a joke btw..
EDIT: I should rly learn to proof read my posts.. think there's 10+ mistakes i had to correct :S
