Who's the 26 BoXoR RoXoR?

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=126463#p ost126463

we will see if its about the same number of killz per level at higher levels.

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I can already tell you that this is not the case. The number of mobs to kill to level is increasing in levels exponentially.
when 20 mobs will grant you a level when you start, you'll need waaaaaaaay more kill at higher levels.
I invite you to read this:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mob_XP
http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:XP_To_Level

Basically, in Azeroth the XP given by a mob your level is (Char Level * 5) + 45. This means 50xp at level 1, 195xp at level 30, and 345xp at level 60
Since you're in a group of 5 you get (per mob, with some negligeable group bonus)
=> 50 /5 *1.4 = 14xp at level 1
=> 195 /5 *1.4 = 55xp at level 30
=> 345 /5 *1.4 = 97xp at level 60

You will need:
at level 01: .400 xp to level = 29 mobs to level to 2
at level 30: 38800 xp to level = 706 mobs to level to 31
at level 60: 494000 xp to level = 5093 mobs to level to 61. Good luck

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=126463#p ost126463

I really need to find some fast spawning eliets.

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Elites give double xp. so you'll still need a few to level, if you can ever find some spawning fast enough to keep up killing.

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=126463#p ost126463

Im in barrens now, and going to head to "wetlands" (wherever that is) gnoll camps when I hit about 16 or so per posts on this forums they respawn fasts.

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Wetlands is -------------------> That way (long way away, across higher level zones) Good luck lol
The wetlands is basically one of the level 20 Alliance zones. easy to access if you are Alliance, not so much when you're horde.
You basically need to go on the Eastern Continent, run south from Undercity through SilverPine (zone level 10-20), then east through Hillsbrad Foothills (20-30), then down Arathi Highlands (30-40).
I guess you can swim along the shores to avoid mobs, but this is going to take a while (and there might still be mobs in the water - no idea)
All this to get to a fast respawn point? not sure it's worth it at all.

If you plan to do this, i would suggest you swim ONE guy there (your highest level) while the others keep grinding mobs in the barrens or wherever, and then chain summon from your one guy once he's arrived.
Note that you'll be flagged for ganking all the way obviously.

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=126463#p ost126463

Mining and Smithing havnt turned out so profitable

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That's weird, i totally expected a miner level 10 would make ENORMOUS amounts of gold. lol /facepalm

Good luck with the learning curve, keep on posting, it's very entertaining.
-Zub

494000 xp to level = 5093 mobs to level to 61. Good luck

Well first Ill be doing Outland mobs I hope. So cut that in 1/2, and if elits, cut in 1/2, and if rested cut in 1/2, and thats for a full group. Looks bad but ... well hey thats da game.

Ok scratch wetlands ...

Ill have to do quests at around level 30 or so, I have questhelper already.

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=126517#p ost126517

Well first Ill be doing Outland mobs I hope. So cut that in 1/2, and if elits, cut in 1/2, and if rested cut in 1/2, and thats for a full group. Looks bad but ... well hey thats da game.

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Outlands will help for sure, but ou'll probably only be able to go there around 58ish. You'l need to get all the levels before that with azeroth mobs unfortunately

Note that you get 1 bubble of rested xp every 16hours of not killing stuff. Every 8 hours if you log in an Inn or capital city. So basically a night of no wow gives you about 1-1.5 bubble of rested xp. (a full level has 20 bubbles)
Also not that you cannot have more than 30 bubbles (1.5 level) of rested xp, and won't get much use of it if you play continuously.

I honestly suggest you check all the quests you walk by, already at your level. You don't need to take them all, but make sure you read them as some are free xp.

I know you're not really listening but

a) do quests they give 10-20k xp when in your 20s/30s - that's 100s kills in 1 quest return

b) if you tag a mob but kill it with other groups you get less xp (check your combat log/experiment)

c) don't be discouraged by ppl saying it takes "x minutes"/hours to get to level Y and it takes you a lot longer
c.1) it's normal to take longer the bigger the group
c.2) I know wow fairly well having leveled 2 70s and a few alts to 50/60s before starting multi boxing and my first team took me 4 days 12h /played to get to 60 (not 2 days or whatever ppl do) - my new team took 8hours /played to get to 15; etc...

d) learn the game first: take 2 raf'ed guys (so its fast) and level those 2 to at least 60 to figure out how the game is before wasting time 26x. Or at least do 1 5x team and get it to l30 and learn from that for you next teams...

some more advice:

e) don't train all the skills you will never have enough money for it all; only pick what you absolutely need on each toon (like only 1 totem on each); ignore stuff you won't use or just might use as you won't have enough money

f) don't bother with professions; they are nice/cool but it will sink too much time. in particular don't try any non gathering professions as they *cost* money. the only thing you could do maybe is get mining and herbalism on your 2 main I strongly suggest you level to 60 first to learn the game (and help out your other groups as needed later)

Or I missed a big change in some patch, but I have to disagree on this being said.

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b) if you tag a mob but kill it with other groups you get less xp (check your combat log/experiment)

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If you tag the mob with group 1, and kill it with the power of group 2,3,4 and 5. And the mob is green/yellow/red to all in group 2,3,4 and 5.

You will not get penalty on the given XP for the kill. This would be the same as if group 1 would have solo killed the mob.

Correct me if Im wrong please, but I have done allot of leveling pre TBC and just a little in TBC.

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=126463#p ost126463

Im in barrens now, and going to head to "wetlands" (wherever that is) gnoll camps when I hit about 16 or so per posts on this forums they respawn fasts.

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The gnolls in the Wetlands do indeed respawn very quickly, I actually had problems with that when running a five-man team through the area for a quest. I couldn't finish looting kills before another gnoll respawned and attacked.

However, bear in mind that you'll be in contested territory with an alliance town nearby, and the closest horde town would be in the next zone to the north, which is higher level. You'll probably get your fill of PvP action once you get noticed. You might be respawning more often than the gnolls. :)

Ya you get full exp if all 25 are within a few levels of each other (mob not grey to anyone). People dont understand how fast 25 kill these mobs. I target, press one key and the mob is dead, Im using earth shock now (not even any casting time ... ) and I run a bit to the left or right of the mob, kill it and just keep going. My 2nd computer is faster then the 3-6 (and the main computer is the fastest but only has the paliden on it) so whichever groups guy I put on the 2nd computer ususally gets the kill even though all cast similtaniouly instant casts. So now I can control which of the 6 groups (2 then 4 and 5X4) gets the kill, well cept the main but he is to high anyway.

I wasted a lot of time on the stupidest quest last night, had to dive underwater one guy at a time, had to swime to a perfect spot, had to go back and forth (of course I was killing tons of mobs on the way). Then I have to kill 8 mobs of a certian kind and makes sure each individual guy loots so its 8 X 26, in a bad area for me. These quests are nuts for me. Even at 3400 (and killz are like 100 each) 34:1 ratio I can kill 34 mobs in like 6 minutes (6 seconds refreash and neverr stop moving).

It just target (one key) and press one key and mob is dead ... then 6 seconds laster do the same thing, and just never stop moving (so mobs are always in front). Its just SO much more efficient then quests.

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=126959#p ost126959

People dont understand how fast 25 kill these mobs. I target, press one key and the mob is dead,

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this is also true with only 5 toons you know
heck, i dual/tri box and i only have to click twice usually

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=126959#p ost126959

I target, press one key and the mob is dead, Im using earth shock now (not even any casting time ... ) and I run a bit to the left or right of the mob, kill it and just keep going.

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Pretty sure everyone understands how fast you can kill single mobs. Most of us have that same advantage. I think what everyone is having a hard time with is how easy it would be to level that many characters and the fact that you are making it look hard.

One other problem you specifically might run into is if you ever let that ego of yours lose on your realm forums you won't even make it to 70, hell even if you don't I'm sure you will spend your fair share of time being camped after you get out of the starting zone.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...32263824&sid=1