Just got one...but have seen talk here and elsewhere that the bann happy Blizzard does not like these. I have the software that came with it installed, but do not use it for macros...will Blizz be deeply offended?
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Just got one...but have seen talk here and elsewhere that the bann happy Blizzard does not like these. I have the software that came with it installed, but do not use it for macros...will Blizz be deeply offended?
I've never heard of a Logitech G15 being against Blizz's policies or rules?? I love the thing and would never use anything else.
The keyboard and software is not banned, but it's problematic - the keyboard itself, used without the software, seems to be just fine, and Blizzard gives a thumbs up. The software is a grey area, even if you don't use the macros I suspect there's something that triggers Warden, the guys who write the botting software may use something similar, dunno.
I would say, use the keyboard without the software, and you should be fine, but if you use the software, be prepared to possibly be banned, and having to work through the issues with Account Administration. Personally, I would de-install it and forget about it.
Also, make sure your accounts are in order, and you own them all, if you get a false positive from the software, you can still be permabanned if they discover issues with your accounts and who owns them.
Using the G15 like a normal keyboard and using it's extra keys to bind to additional keybindings is fine.
Blizzard's documented problem with the G15 is when you start using "timers" or adding pauses in macros or the auto-fire mechanism. This is where you cross the line into automation according to blizzard's definition. For example, you couldn't make a macro for one press of a button that fires a frost bolt, waits a second for the global cooldown and then fires a fireball. THIS IS ILLEGAL. One keypress must equal one action.
It's ok to bind one key to Shit+<whatever> or Alt+Shit+<whatever> to get creative keybindings but outside of that, you're in bannable territory.
the problem they have with it are delays. theoretically, you could use it to introduce a delay and your timer-based powers would auto-cast.. and that would be automation. this is strictly off-limits
there is another item that is gray area... and that would be out-of-game macros. basically, hitting 1 key and a series of keys go into the wow window as if you typed them very fast. i say it's gray area because they push 1 key hit == 1 key per window. this would break that mindset...
BUT... blizzard also puts out this:
this is basically like the G15.. but cheaper and has no delays. BUT, it does allow you to hit a single button and an out-of-game macro (one-touch macro) will be pushed to the active wow windowQuote:
World of Warcraft®: Burning Crusade® ZBoard™ Keyset ($ 19.99)
http://www.blizzard.com/store/_image...pe=3&loc=en-US
The new Zboard keyset for World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade is now available. The new keyset includes many of its predecessor's cool and useful features, such as labeled keys and one-touch macros for frequent commands like /roll, /duel, /invite and /follow
if anyone has any info on this, i would love to hear it
I've been using the original G15 for over a year with no issues, and I use the software. However, I *only* use the G1-G18 keys for a shortcut for commands such as SHIFT+ALT+ (1-9), and SHIFT+ALT+CTRL(1-9), so nothing is automated.
I , too, use the G15 software for mainly /follow comands, easy mount access, and other various 1 button touch actions but.... I use it for formations as well which do include a pause here or there. But I do not, and never will, use it for automation attacks. I never thought that could get me banned. Now I'm curious...
I specifically used a press-duration key for formations so absolutely nothing is automated. The longer I hold the key, the further the groups spread. I'm not willing to risk having a pause in a formation key being seen by Blizzard as automation.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Deshu',index.php?page=Thread&postID=85877#post858 77
What do you mean by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by '-silencer-',index.php?page=Thread&postID=85925#post85925
If you mean you are using the "repeat while held down" option in the G15 macro option then this is considered automation by blizzard. If you mean you use your formations through keybinding the regular movement keys that would auto-repeat under regular WoW useage then you're fine.
Automation out of combat is still allowed... emotes aren't really a combat thing. -- You can still make addons that do all sorts of automation so long as they're only usable out of combat lockdown. Basically anything you could do with the pre 2.0 system. Which still makes the "you have to press a key for every action" rule apply.
Also, anything you can do in a macro can be automated... so you can use software to type out emotes for you.
Personally, I stopped running Autohotkey and downloaded the software to my joysticks/saitek and got Octopus (I was just using AHK) -- even though my joystick software still lets me do delayed actions (that I don't use) -- As AHK is just too big of a gray area I think.