LF 5 man pve team suggestions

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02-13-2012, 11:57 AM
zenga

LF 5 man pve team suggestions

So a while ago I transferred a bunch of toons to my new realm (where I'll stay for a long long time), swapped some toons around accounts, etc ... and don't have a valid pve team. We're about to whack madness hc so once progression is done I'm gonna start a new pve team. What I currently have on my main realm:

Main account:
85 - Ele shaman (main)
85 - DK very well geared frost spec / ok blood gear
85 - Paladin (geared tank & ret spec)
85 - Druid (shit geared feral spec)
85 - Warrior (shit geared prot & arms spec)
85 - Lock (shit geared)
85 - Disc priest (ok geared)
60 - Hunter
20 - rogue
12 - mage
Account B:
85 - shaman (ok pve gear ele/enhancement - pvp geared resto)
Account CDE pretty much empty

Now what I'm looking for is:
- bringing 10 toons to 85 before MoP hits on my main account, and meanwhile have some pve fun in dungeons, doing all cata achievements and probably some older content as well.
- I also want a setup where I can swap in pretty much every toon on my main account
- have a mixed team that provides maximum amount of buffs
- not a big fan of pet classes, companions are ok
- gonna level this team from scratch entirely through dungeons (no way I'll quest bar the first levels), have a bunch of heirlooms, tough not too bothered if it takes me longer
- if they can be the same race (height), that's a win, tank can be bigger
- obviously will need a tank that can also dps/heal whenever I swap in a tank toon from account A
- I'm a dude, I play horde

Myself I was considering:
feral tank / mage (on main account) + spriest + ele shaman / pally healer
or pally tank with resto druid, but in doubt about the ele shaman (since I know that class inside out), would prefer a lock but a bit in doubt about it relying on a pet
not sure how east a boomkin is to macro, same with demonolgy lock

Either way, would appreciate any input / suggestions / feedback that makes me see the light.
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02-13-2012, 01:56 PM
d0z3rr

I'll provide input on the following classes:

Priest - Probably my most hated character. Terrible healing all around (direct, aoe). Terrible dps. The only reason I keep it around is I am collecting t2/t4 gear for all my chars, plus priest gear is cool looking. Oh I guess mass dispel is kinda nice.

Shaman - my favorite healer by far. never was a fan of shaman melee though.

warrior - arms spec is great, he does good dps once you get him a nice ilvl 2hander. kinda hard to get used to since you really need to be on top of overpower, the video fx of isboxer helps as i have a small box with the overpower skill in it that is right next to my tank's threat meter, since i'm always looking there i can easily see when it pops up and i have to activate, same for execute.

feral druid - super easy to macro, goes well with the warrior. mine sucks because there is no leather gear on the AH ever, i am forced to level leatherworking to gear my druid. i like it though. tried to macro a boomkin last year and failed miserably.

hunter - i found that you are limited to beast mastery spec, since that is easily macroed vs marksman where you really can't macro chimera too easily without taking a massive dps hit. plus you'll get a cool looking pet.

paladin - i used to hate my ret paladins. yesterday i activated one at level 83, found out he was super easy to macro and put out good dps. i now love my paladin again. can't wait until he is 85.

rogue - not very impressed. super easy to macro, but even though he has ok gear, his dps still isn't that great. he's kinda "meh" to me. only in the group to soak up t1/t2/t4 rogue gear and cool looking weapons to transmog.

dk frost/blood - always impressed with the blood dk tanking ability and dps output, and the frost dps output. frost was kinda like the warrior in that you have to set up video fx to monitor procs (or use procmon from jamba).
02-13-2012, 02:17 PM
Peli

I have two mixed comps right now. The first is too low level to get any feeling from (1x Pally, 4x shammy) the other, though, is level 80 and it's prot warrior, disc priest, and 3x Frost DK. From my experience with this comp, I would HIGHLY recommend AGAINST using a priest. Their heals are too reactionary and weak and my warrior tended to take a ton of spiky damage once the PW:S wore off. looking back on it, I would much rather have used a resto shaman for the healing role. Earth Shield is so ridiculously OP and chain heal and healing rain are really strong, smart AoE heals.

That said, prot warrior and Frost DK are both really easy to macro and I just run a toggled keybind that sends either my single target threat macro or my aoe threat macro to my warrior and sends a two-step macro to the DKs.
02-13-2012, 03:33 PM
Bollwerk

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

paladin - i used to hate my ret paladins. yesterday i activated one at level 83, found out he was super easy to macro and put out good dps. i now love my paladin again. can't wait until he is 85.

If you have a good macro for a RET pally, please share it here:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...n-lvl-78/page2
I have yet to find any macro (1 or 2 step) that puts out any decent dps.
I would be forever grateful.

If it matters, I use ISBoxer with 2 step macros.
02-13-2012, 10:21 PM
JohnGabriel

Don't delete your priests though. They may suck now but next expansion blizzard may change things, they always do.
02-14-2012, 06:06 AM
zenga

So I'm going with:
- mage on main account (at 85 this one should be replacable with a tank, caster or melee dps from my main account)
- pally on account B (I have a 85 resto geared shaman there already)
- shaman on C
- druid on D
- priest on E

Will level them as prot pally, mage, shadow priest & ele shaman with a resto druid.
If at 85 I swap in a melee for the mage, I have the priest go disc, the druid go feral, the shaman go enhance & the pally stays prot.
If I swap in a tank for the mage, I have the pally go ret.

The most versatile setup I can come up with. Cheers for input.
02-16-2012, 11:43 AM
traedoril

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

Priest - Probably my most hated character. Terrible healing all around (direct, aoe). Terrible dps. The only reason I keep it around is I am collecting t2/t4 gear for all my chars, plus priest gear is cool looking. Oh I guess mass dispel is kinda nice.

As disc you are correct. Switch to Holy for PvE and you will see vast improvement. Holy priests are probably the best overall healer in the game currently.

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

Shaman - my favorite healer by far. never was a fan of shaman melee though.

Spec Ele super easy to box and does really good damage

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

warrior - arms spec is great, he does good dps once you get him a nice ilvl 2hander. kinda hard to get used to since you really need to be on top of overpower, the video fx of isboxer helps as i have a small box with the overpower skill in it that is right next to my tank's threat meter, since i'm always looking there i can easily see when it pops up and i have to activate, same for execute.

Very hard to box due to the nature of the class. If you use ISBoxer you can 2step macro in OP and EX but its still very difficult to dps properly. Tanking is much easier. If you drive from a warrior you almost never lose threat.

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

feral druid - super easy to macro, goes well with the warrior. mine sucks because there is no leather gear on the AH ever, i am forced to level leatherworking to gear my druid. i like it though. tried to macro a boomkin last year and failed miserably.

Feral is really easy to macro but Combo points are hard to manage properly. Boomkin is not to difficult if you don't take Sunfire talent.

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

hunter - i found that you are limited to beast mastery spec, since that is easily macroed vs marksman where you really can't macro chimera too easily without taking a massive dps hit. plus you'll get a cool looking pet.

Go survival, still super high DPS and VERY easy to macro.

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

paladin - i used to hate my ret paladins. yesterday i activated one at level 83, found out he was super easy to macro and put out good dps. i now love my paladin again. can't wait until he is 85.

Prot is easiest to box with this guy. Ret isnt to bad but its dificult to handle the exo and holy power procs properly.

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

rogue - not very impressed. super easy to macro, but even though he has ok gear, his dps still isn't that great. he's kinda "meh" to me. only in the group to soak up t1/t2/t4 rogue gear and cool looking weapons to transmog.

Combo points are difficult to manage but not impossible. Very good DPS if you can manage it.

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Originally Posted by d0z3rr

dk frost/blood - always impressed with the blood dk tanking ability and dps output, and the frost dps output. frost was kinda like the warrior in that you have to set up video fx to monitor procs (or use procmon from jamba).

Super easy in every aspect

Mage: Arcane is the easiest by far of all classes to do SUPER high DPS on with a simple macro. Your rotation is so short and simple its almost pathetic and you only have one proc that really matters. If you want a class with huge burst, and High sustained DPS go with and arcane mage.