Migrating to win7, etc

Hi. I posted this thread asking for upgrade advice:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=34313

Based on helpful advice from several people, i ordered a 60gb ssd and 4 more gb of ram.

I will also be chnaging the os from xp32 pro to win7 64 bit ultimate when the ssd finally gets to my house.

I have several questions:

1. I currently run all five toons from one installation of wow. I will be installing the os and wow (only) on the ssd. Is there any reason to run two installations of wow when i only have one small ssd?

2. My video card is dx11 capable but i use dx9 since i currently have xp. Are there any problems running dx11 when using isboxer?

3. Are there any issues running isboxer under windows 7?

4. I have used xp for years. Never bothered with vista because of all the horrible reviews. For someone upgrading to win7 from xp, are there any issues i should know about in advance with respect to running warcraft?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by katsurahama

Hi. I posted this thread asking for upgrade advice:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=34313

Based on helpful advice from several people, i ordered a 60gb ssd and 4 more gb of ram.

I will also be chnaging the os from xp32 pro to win7 64 bit ultimate when the ssd finally gets to my house.

I have several questions:

1. I currently run all five toons from one installation of wow. I will be installing the os and wow (only) on the ssd. Is there any reason to run two installations of wow when i only have one small ssd?

2. My video card is dx11 capable but i use dx9 since i currently have xp. Are there any problems running dx11 when using isboxer?

3. Are there any issues running isboxer under windows 7?

4. I have used xp for years. Never bothered with vista because of all the horrible reviews. For someone upgrading to win7 from xp, are there any issues i should know about in advance with respect to running warcraft?

Thanks!

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1. Keep the data folder on the SSD, have the rest of your wow folder elsewhere. Symbolic links are awesome.
2. There shouldn't be any issues.
3. No. Should any arise Lax is amazing with support.
4. None off the top of my head. Windows 7 is what Vista should have been.

If you have a small SSD, just put your whole WoW folder on it. That's what I do.

As for multiple WoW folders, doesn't ISBoxer have some virtualization thing with config files so you don't need multiple folders? If yours doesn't, you might look into that. Will save you the trouble of symlinking the data, interface and other folders.

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Originally Posted by katsurahama

Hi. I posted this thread asking for upgrade advice:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=34313

Based on helpful advice from several people, i ordered a 60gb ssd and 4 more gb of ram.

I will also be chnaging the os from xp32 pro to win7 64 bit ultimate when the ssd finally gets to my house.

I have several questions:

1. I currently run all five toons from one installation of wow. I will be installing the os and wow (only) on the ssd. Is there any reason to run two installations of wow when i only have one small ssd?

2. My video card is dx11 capable but i use dx9 since i currently have xp. Are there any problems running dx11 when using isboxer?

3. Are there any issues running isboxer under windows 7?

4. I have used xp for years. Never bothered with vista because of all the horrible reviews. For someone upgrading to win7 from xp, are there any issues i should know about in advance with respect to running warcraft?

Thanks!

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1, Not if you're using ISBoxer, as Ugh said - ISboxer sets up virtual configs for each session of WoW - works really well.

2. Nope, in fact the current beta of ISboxer has built in support for DX11 - I get a few more FPS running it in DX11 mode compared to DX9.

3. Nope, I'm running it under Win 7 Pro 64-bit and it's fine.

4. MS finally got their shit together for Win 7 - although arguably not much under the hood was changed from Vista, the final product was far more polished. Moving up from XP isn't a huge change as far as the user interface goes, some things have moved, but overall it should feel familiar. There are no issues for running WoW under Win 7 as far as I know...

Cheers,
S.

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Originally Posted by Stealthy

MS finally got their shit together for Win 7 - although arguably not much under the hood was changed from Vista, the final product was far more polished.

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The USB stack was completely rewritten after Vista...it was broken badly in XP and Vista (though most folks won't realize it as they don't do the advanced power management or rapid insert/remove stuff that breaks it). Lots of other medium to minor subsystems were either drastically refactored or totally scrapped and done from scratch in addition to USB in Win7. I can't remember it all but I'm sure google can remember it for me. ;)

Basically, Win7 is teh bomb. Go getz it nao.

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Originally Posted by katsurahama

4. I have used xp for years. Never bothered with vista because of all the horrible reviews. For someone upgrading to win7 from xp, are there any issues i should know about in advance with respect to running warcraft?

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Please never follow this reasoning again. Vista received horrible reviews due to the drastic changes of it's user interface (nobody likes change), and moron users who couldn't figure out how to disable UAC. It received horrible reviews due to hardware manufacturers pre-loading it on less than sufficient hardware (and adding software bloat on top of that).

Vista was far superior to XP.

I installed Win7 64 Ultimate, a 60Gb SSD, and 4 more gigs of RAM. The following changes occurred:

1. innerspace stopped giving me some C+ error when first logging into wow
2. wow stopped hanging during the first login, forcing me to disconnect all instances and start all over again
3. the computer in general runs MUCH faster now
4. I upped the graphics quality on the master toon window and there was no FPS drop. I haven't tried going to SW again since the upgrade.
5. I was able to use the most recent release of innerspace. i had to use some old one before or it wouldn't even load.

I had to delete all the old patch files in my wow folder. Vista took 30GB and wow was 29GB before deleting junk. The formatted SSD only had 55GB. Had i realized win7 took so much space i would have gotten a bigger SSD. I read a lot of it is the page file and the file used for hibernate, but anyway its huge.

Win7 is about 12GB installed for Pro, 15 or so for ultimate, not including page files, apps and 3rd-party drivers. Note that the patch files and shit for things like SP1 and QFEs do not get deleted once installed, so that cruft still hangs around, fattening up things quite a bit once everything is updated.

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Originally Posted by katsurahama

I installed Win7 64 Ultimate, a 60Gb SSD, and 4 more gigs of RAM. The following changes occurred:

1. innerspace stopped giving me some C+ error when first logging into wow
2. wow stopped hanging during the first login, forcing me to disconnect all instances and start all over again
3. the computer in general runs MUCH faster now
4. I upped the graphics quality on the master toon window and there was no FPS drop. I haven't tried going to SW again since the upgrade.
5. I was able to use the most recent release of innerspace. i had to use some old one before or it wouldn't even load.

I had to delete all the old patch files in my wow folder. Vista took 30GB and wow was 29GB before deleting junk. The formatted SSD only had 55GB. Had i realized win7 took so much space i would have gotten a bigger SSD. I read a lot of it is the page file and the file used for hibernate, but anyway its huge.

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Damn that hiberfil.sys!

Here's how to delete it (btw, don't know this off the top of my head, have to look it up EVERY time):
Open a command prompt with administrative privileges. Type “powercfg.exe -h off". Reboot. Delete hiberfil.sys from your drive.

After the ram, os, and ssd upgrade the win7 score is 7.3/7.9

Gpu-z shows only 30% utilization with slightly upped settings from what i was using before, so it was definitely a ram and os issue and not the fault of the radeon 5770.