Win 7 & Patch 4.01 troubles.

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11-12-2010, 05:43 PM
epayne6

Win 7 & Patch 4.01 troubles.

Hello Dual -boxing community
　
I unusually don't post here but I've got one very confusing problem on my hands. I hope someone here can help me out. I use to be a 5 char multiboxer. I say 'use to' because after a couple of major changes it stopped working.

My setup info real quick. I use 2 computers. The main was a 3Ghz Pentium 4 laptop with 1G of memory running Win XP SP2. This one showed only my tank. The other is a Core 2 Duo 1333 desktop PC, with 3G of memory, also running Win XP. The other 4 chars ran on this box. I purchased 2 copies of Keyclone v1.9 (one on each computer) to broadcast my keystrokes.
　
Things were great for a long time. I setup my firewall to exclude Keyclone and WOW, and both machines sent and recieved my keystrokes perfectly. Then the P4 laptop died. So I got a new 2.13GHz Core 7i laptop with 8G of memory running Win 7 64bit versus. Funny thing is the old P4 laptop died just a couple of days before Patch 4.01 came out. So after I installed, fully updated and setup WOW and Keyclone on the new machine it was just in time for the patch download.
　
Both machines now fully updated, I fired up Keyclone to multibox for the first time on my new setup. This is when all of the problems started. On the new machine. I discovered that Keyclone is NOT Win 7 compatible. The Keyclone Wizard works and my Connections window shows the IP address of the Core 2 along with my Command Name, but Maximizer doesn't work. On the Win 7 machine Maximizer is frozen in place. You can't resize the windows or name anything. The input boxes are always blank and they clear after anything is typed in them so the only way it works is with one full-screen window. I'm pretty sure it's broadcasting the Core 7i's keystrokes, but there is no way to tell.

The Core 2 desktop [running XP] version of Keyclone stopped working. Maximizer works but the WOW windows will not resize and place the way they use to. I tried changing the game's video setting to Windowed but all I get is 4 copies of WOW running in 4 centered, 1-sized windows. The keystrokes are not being broadcast, and none of the Command Names show up in the Connection window. I read somewhere that the wow.exe had been changed but that shouldn't kill the keystroke broadcast.
　
And that's the story. The new laptop is not compatible with Keyclone, and the old one isn't working at all. I know it's not a firewall or anti-virus problem because even when I disable or completely un-install them nothing changes.
　
What should I do? Should I get another keystroke broadcaster software setup, or try a hardware multiplex? If so, which one? Is there a software package I can try for a few days/weeks before I have to commit money? Or is there something I'm not seeing? Any help would be great.

Thanks
11-12-2010, 10:59 PM
Ughmahedhurtz

Have you tried running it as administrator? I'm sure the other folks using KC on Win7 would be surprised to hear it isn't compatible. ;)
11-13-2010, 03:18 PM
Bollwerk

Most likely just need to run as administrator. This is the biggest problem with upgrading from XP to Vista or 7.
11-13-2010, 04:21 PM
epayne6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollwerk

Most likely just need to run as administrator. This is the biggest problem with upgrading from XP to Vista or 7.

Installed, un-intstalled and re-installed as Admin. Only one user account on this [the Win 7 machine] and it's the administrator so this machine always runs as Admin.

The Win 7 Keyclone is working. I think. Maximizer is screwed up but I think it's broadcasting the keystrokes. I can't tell because the Win XP Keyclone is not working at all. I select the IP address of the Win 7 comp and the command names I want to run, but they do not show up in Connection window like they use to. Plus WOW runs 4 times, but it is in 4 locked single-centered windows and nothing is being broadcast.
11-13-2010, 04:57 PM
MiRai

Quote:

Originally Posted by epayne6

Installed, un-intstalled and re-installed as Admin. Only one user account on this [the Win 7 machine] and it's the administrator so this machine always runs as Admin.

The Win 7 Keyclone is working. I think. Maximizer is screwed up but I think it's broadcasting the keystrokes. I can't tell because the Win XP Keyclone is not working at all. I select the IP address of the Win 7 comp and the command names I want to run, but they do not show up in Connection window like they use to. Plus WOW runs 4 times, but it is in 4 locked single-centered windows and nothing is being broadcast.

Negative, because you only have 1 user account and it is an administrator does not mean that double clicking on .exe files
will automatically run them as an administrator unless you have UAC disabled. Assuming you have an untouched, default
setup of Windows 7 then your UAC is still enabled; meaning, you will have to right click on the .exe file every time and
"Run as administrator."
11-13-2010, 05:50 PM
Ualaa

You can right click, go to compatibility tab, and check the box for running as admin.
That way, it will remember it in the future, and you don't have to do it each time.
11-14-2010, 01:39 PM
madScientist

Using KeyClone with Windows 7 (with "Run as Administrator") and Windows XP/7 over LAN or WiFi works. Do you have the last keyclone version?
11-14-2010, 11:47 PM
epayne6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenril

Negative, because you only have 1 user account and it is an administrator does not mean that double clicking on .exe files
will automatically run them as an administrator unless you have UAC disabled. Assuming you have an untouched, default
setup of Windows 7 then your UAC is still enabled; meaning, you will have to right click on the .exe file every time and
"Run as administrator."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ualaa

You can right click, go to compatibility tab, and check the box for running as admin.
That way, it will remember it in the future, and you don't have to do it each time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by madScientist

Using KeyClone with Windows 7 (with "Run as Administrator") and Windows XP/7 over LAN or WiFi works. Do you have the last keyclone version?

Right-clicked on both the desktop shortcut and the main executable in the User/Public/Games/keyclone directory. brought up the Properties win and checked the 'Run as Administrator' box then saved.

No change.

I don't think that is problem anymore. Please see the Switching Gears post I about to make.
11-17-2010, 06:32 AM
epayne6

Switching Gears

Ok. real quick.

After a couple of day of experimentations, here's what I found out.

I did not install Win7 on the Core i7. Factory did. but I did create the Admin account and use it everytime. No guest or other type acct exist on that machine. The Run as Admin boxed is checked on the kc executable with no change. Maximizer still does not work properly. All forms of Run in Compatiblity mode change nothing so that box is left unchecked.

Here's the thing. Keyclone is working. sorta. If I use the Wizard instead of Max. I tested the dual screen pre-selelct and it worked perfectly; keys sent, wins resized. Just Maximizer is still broken. [latest version on both machines]

KC on the WinXP machine is still completely broken. I think the 4.0.1 patch has something to do with that. It was working fine until then.

Has anyone with a WinXP machine noticed any problems with multiboxing since patch 4.0.1? Could the changes in WOW be the cause of any of this?

Thanks for helping
11-17-2010, 07:44 PM
Ualaa

My roommate is boxing, with Keyclone.

Definitely 4.0.1 patch, Cenarius-US.
Windows 7, 64-bit.

He got picked up an SSD, and had to download a newer version of KC this summer.
Don't think there's been an update since... not even sure long the update had already been available for.