4.0.1 macro changes? (and hunter help please!)

Ok, so it appears macros have changed again with 4.x.x.

1) Could someone outline the changes? (From what I gather here, the comma timing of /click and multiple /click in one macro is dead. Any other changes those of us who have been happily clicking need to know?)

2) Since it seems that /castsequence is what everyone is going back to for spam macros, what are the limitations on /castsequence? I remember it had some limitations, and that was why many of us went to /click macros, but I don't know what the functional limitations are.

3) For my hunter... I know there were several abilities that would never fire in a /castsequence, or would break the /castsequence, so any advice on building a BM hunter macro? I'm suspecting it will be two macros, one for the short-cooldown abilities (under 6 sec) and another or individual buttons for the longer cooldowns.

I can't help you with the macro yet as I'm playing around with mine, but it goes something like this:

/castsequence [reset=combat] Hunter's Mark, Sepent Sting, Arcane Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Arcane Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot.

The idea is that during steady shot you are regaining your focus. Other shots use your focus.

But as of right now my hunter is doing crap dps compared to my previous survival hunter spec. It was around 3k in instances before and I can't break 2k now. Whereas my mage went from 3.5k dps to over 6.5k dps in my arcane spec. My shadow priest is now BLEH for dps so can't wait to get my 4 shaman group to 80 so I can replace him with a shaman.

What I'm thinking that I'll need now is 4 buttons

1) hunters mark + pet attack
2) serpent sting
3) dps spam /castsequence kc/steady/steady/arcane etc based on KC cool down
4) longer cool down spam frenzy/BW/fevor

I don't think serpent sting will work in the castsequence due to the loss of comma timing. At least once we hit 81 stings will be refreshed by cobra.

So I'm trying this from one of the other threads here..

/castsequence reset=combat ,Arcane Shot, Kill Command,Steady Shot,Arcane Shot,Steady Shot,Kill Command,Steady Shot,Arcane Shot,Steady Shot,Focus Fire,Kill Command,Steady Shot,Steady Shot,

And that is after my HM/PetAttack macro, and applying Serpent.

I'm doing about 5.6k over a 5 minute run with no other buffs. It seems like everything is firing off ok, and I can squeeze out close to 6k if I am manually popping BW in addition to the sting.

So.. questions (I know the dps should be better, so..)

1) Any ideas on how to apply BW with a macro since we can't time it anymore? I tried adding it before the /castsequence but that breaks the macro

2) Any ideas on refreshing the sting? manual application is a dps loss if you are doing a spam macro.

My shot count is:

auto 198
steady 93
arcane 47
KC 47

The KC seems to be going off close to each cooldown expiration, but it could be tighter, and it seems like I could probably get more Arcane shots in, since my focus usually doesn't drop below 50%.

Thoughts? Getting BW off manual application would be nice, but it's weak enough now that I'm not too worried about it.

Just as a side note, ignore MM hunter target dummy DPS right now; they are falsely inflated due to Careful Aim.

And for reference, I was testing macros alongside a few ~5.7k GS hunters on my server last night and they were both pulling about 5.5-6k as BM.

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Originally Posted by halabar

So I'm trying this from one of the other threads here..

/castsequence reset=combat ,Arcane Shot, Kill Command,Steady Shot,Arcane Shot,Steady Shot,Kill Command,Steady Shot,Arcane Shot,Steady Shot,Focus Fire,Kill Command,Steady Shot,Steady Shot,

And that is after my HM/PetAttack macro, and applying Serpent.

I'm doing about 5.6k over a 5 minute run with no other buffs. It seems like everything is firing off ok, and I can squeeze out close to 6k if I am manually popping BW in addition to the sting.

So.. questions (I know the dps should be better, so..)

1) Any ideas on how to apply BW with a macro since we can't time it anymore? I tried adding it before the /castsequence but that breaks the macro

2) Any ideas on refreshing the sting? manual application is a dps loss if you are doing a spam macro.

My shot count is:

auto 198
steady 93
arcane 47
KC 47

The KC seems to be going off close to each cooldown expiration, but it could be tighter, and it seems like I could probably get more Arcane shots in, since my focus usually doesn't drop below 50%.

Thoughts? Getting BW off manual application would be nice, but it's weak enough now that I'm not too worried about it.

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Halabar - what is your toons name and what realm. I'd like to look at your gear and spec.

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Originally Posted by Malgor

Halabar - what is your toons name and what realm. I'd like to look at your gear and spec.

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My main hunter is Slickrock on Windrunner. about 6k gearscore based on the GS addon. I've changed about 2/3 of the old-arp now crit gems to Agi, and dropped in one hit gem to get the cap.

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Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz

And for reference, I was testing macros alongside a few ~5.7k GS hunters on my server last night and they were both pulling about 5.5-6k as BM.

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Hmm.. then I might be in the ballpark. Haven't been able to get in a VOA or something to test there with full buffs. But based on what I saw with focus, I should able to squeeze in a few more Arcane.

Something else I saw on the Hunters Union site to note.

Under the old mana system, popping BW just meant you extended your mana. You didn't really need to change rotation for it. Under the new focus system, it will likely be optimal to pop BW, then have a secondary macro that hits all KC and arcane for those 10 seconds, since focus cost is cut in half, then switch back to the standard spam macro. Assuming the dps gain is worth it.... but if you have to refresh Serpent in the middle, you are stuck.. sigh...

/castsequence reset=10 Serpent Sting, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Arcane Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Multi-Shot, Steady Shot, Focus Fire
/cast [target=pet target] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame: Clear


this is the BM macro i use for 4.0.1 it is very effective. never run out of focus. uses focus fire and KC right on time. and is a 1 button faceroll