What can honestly beat a herbalism/miner in wintergrasp for G/Hr?

Well i've come to the conclusion that well.... herbalism is seriously retarded for making money on my server. Over 900g an hour for flying around (280%). Titanium bars sell for 18g per and titanium ore sells for 16g per.

After looking at many options and the prices of enchanting mats even if you are doing 3 heroics per hour you can't really beat the combination of frost lotus selling for 60g per and titanium ore selling for 250g per stack... This does not include using transmutation mastery and elixir mastery to make pots/titanium bars. Not to mention that herbs sell for 30g per stack.

So my question is this... with a 310% mount on a paladin... (effective 372% speed with crusader aura) what could make more than flying around wg picking up nodes? I mean seriously.

Yes i know there is competition involved but i've had a buddy of mine prove to me (video with stopwatch activated) that he was able to get an AVERAGE of 15 stacks of herbs, 8 frost lotus, 7 eternal life just from herbalism. He was also a hunter with only a 280% speed mount. The total value of this would be as follows.

8*60 + 15*30 + 7*20 = ~1100g

He kept this up for approximately 5 hours yesterday (Tuesday) during peak time (6pm-11pm) and ended up with a total of.

55 frost lotus, 80 stacks of herbs (lichbloom, icethorn), 34 eternal life

Total value: 3300+2400+680 = 6380
Total gold/hour = 1276

So if you factor in an extra 90% speed + mining (titanium nodes especially) do you think one could expect to break 1600g an hour? If so is there ANYTHING that beats this amount of gold per hour not including dailies and cooldowns on multiple characters? This does not factor in any secondary professions as those increase the worth of items by at least 1.2 times the actual value of the materials. This also does not include using the titanium to create titansteel bars (buying cooldowns for 15g each) for re-sale.

If one were to factor in all variables you COULD (theory crafting warning) make over 2k an hour. On a server economy like mine that moves so quickly it isn't even funny (example, his frost lotus sold in 30 minuets, and my 40 stacks of infinite dust and 20 stacks of gce sold in under 2 hours) would there be any better way to make money? I mean even doing things like farming normal VH for arctic fur + leather to make leg armors to sell couldn't even match herbalism at the 280% rate.

With all due respect, but only the braindead can keep that up for hours. The theory might be true, but reality is slightly different imo. I'm on a mediocre populated server, and during peak times its almost not possible to mine titanium given the competition. After 3 am it's allright, but there are still people mining.

Ya the problem is if you are on a server with a high population there is no way in hell you are going to hit that many nodes without someone competing for them. I know my server the farmers have warp hacks so that they can farm under the ground and avoid npc aggro (not to mention teleport quickly.)

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I know my server the farmers have warp hacks

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yeah - i've heard that might be possible, but just wondering how you *know* that for your server?

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Originally Posted by Shodokan

with a 310% mount on a paladin... (effective 372% speed with crusader aura)

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I thought the aura adds 20%, not mulitples the mount speed by 20%... ie 330% instead of 372%. If its the larger number, well, I'm not complaining. Faster is good.

EDIT: Did some quick research, and it does in fact mutiple. And if you have Aura Mastery, makes it even more elite.
Reference: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...58762896&sid=1

Can we get a second opinion on this - the link says Carbonite is showing a x1.2 gain, but it doesn't feel like an additional 50/60%. Maybe it's using incorrect maths, or maybe i'm wrong...

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Originally Posted by gitcho

yeah - i've heard that might be possible, but just wondering how you *know* that for your server?

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I, for one, have seen it. I'll land on a node and it vanishes into thin air. This has been happening since vanilla wow.

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Mount speed modifiers increase multiplicatively, with each modifier increasing the players Total Mounted Speed

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http://www.wowwiki.com/Crusader_Aura

Its not a "blue" post, but its one step above word-of-mouth. Learned something new today.

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Originally Posted by gitcho

yeah - i've heard that might be possible, but just wondering how you *know* that for your server?

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I've seen it firsthand farming Titanium. Race to a node and get "That is busy" when you try to swing on it. Look in log and you can see who loots it, some level 10 hunter. I stopped farming after that.

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Originally Posted by zenga

With all due respect, but only the braindead can keep that up for hours. The theory might be true, but reality is slightly different imo. I'm on a mediocre populated server, and during peak times its almost not possible to mine titanium given the competition. After 3 am it's allright, but there are still people mining.

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The more people farming the faster nodes respawn. Getting to a node before someone else is pure chance... if you miss a titanium node or a frost lotus there will be others.

Keeping that up for hours on end requires "braindead" type of play like you said, so you can watch TV or whatever you'd like to do with your offtime. I mean there are few "enjoyable" ways to make money on wow. Doing heroics can only net you so much... and are they really all that fun? I mean other than a few encounters it's basically DPS, hit heals when you need it and AOE...

As far as money/hour regardless of "tediousness" it breaks up the grind of heroics, dailies, and wintergrasp to make money. Sure as shit beats farming mobs as well which is also pretty brainless.

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Originally Posted by Multibocks

I've seen it firsthand farming Titanium. Race to a node and get "That is busy" when you try to swing on it. Look in log and you can see who loots it, some level 10 hunter. I stopped farming after that.

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After coming back i had a lengthy conversation with a GM about things, hes also a multi-boxer and does frequent this forum though he did not give me his username. If i encounter that type of thing i have someone to report it to and make sure something gets done. =D But yes that can be annoying as hell.