2,1k+ rating 4 shamans + warlock 5 dps

Hey guys, today i tried a new combo with my 4 shamys + warlock friend and we went from 2050 to 2100 after 13 (funny) games, also owned rank 3 arena master team @ 2,4k rating ( 2-0)

Warlock is a very good supporter with sukki cc, fear, deathcoil, shadowfury, he was just spamming cc on people so i killed them all for free rating :>
try it out it's very funny xD, we hat just one team which owned us twice, Brutal gladiator rogue+drood, vengeful gladiator warrior and 2x gladiator diszi warlock.. i tried to fuck up the warrior but he used shieldwall instantly after charge and one sec later lava inc (they lucked also very hard beacause their warlock ignored my resilience)

well atm top 15, hopefully that setup works as "intended" to get gladi with 5 dps... !

Edit: armoy link in signature, should be updated in a few hours

I wish I had as much luck/skill to get there.

its not so hard to dropp someone but it requires a huge amount of peeling to kill all 5 of them without a healer, ele shamans are good healers but you don't have enough mana to spam heal for 20 sec, so at beginning we dump all the shit we got on maintarget (warrior, dk, shaman whatever is closest)

example: warrior dk warlock dsizi holypaladin

sukki cc -> priest, deathcoil warri or dk, instant nuke + shadowfury will dropp the target, even a frostdk in frost presence is not save from that amounts of damage, but don't try to kill the warrior while shieldwall is active :> if they are playing passiv i purge them, they are rounding the corner? np shadowfury- deathcoil - instant nuke- dead; if i nuked the warrior, next step is dropping the dk, fs+lava bust, fear-dk fear-warlock fear-paladin seduce priest the warlock is just using his mana for curse of elements and fear fear fear :D if fs-lava-clb-frostshock will not dropp the dk, heal yourself and wait untill lava is ready again and enemy healers are stucking in cc... yeah it's no very easy at all but i think if you do it right, if you get the feeling for this setup you can reach top rating with 5 dps, i have just played 16 games with a lock but i think thats the new fotm :D

i think I'm going to make some clips about this, just showing some games vs high rated teams owned by 5 dps /roar

Yeah even a normal video of teams with win/loss is what I am looking for, because I am struggling. Pretty much if I don't take someone down with my one button burst I almost always lose.

My biggest problem is applying pressure while my guys get feared/slow/not facing the right way all the time.

I seriously can't see how this can work versus a decent team, they must either be stupid or not knowing what they're doing .. Without a healer you'll die fast versus aoe, even with a healer it can be hard to keep up with 2 or 3 aoe classes. Even if they lose a character while taking you down, they still have the advantage in my eyes. I think a team playing full offensive will take you down, no matter how much healing you do .. There's no way you can keep yourself up, if you succeed you'll die when you go oom or risk dps'ing - they'll kill you faster, than you can kill them.

And what do you do against range aoe teams (or heavy range single target dmg), which takes you down slowly by moving back and forth? Players which actually have a brain and can react with (trinket+) iceblock, shield wall, spell reflect, hunter reflect and pain suppression (etc..) within miliseconds? Cause you can't risk playing defensive, cause you got no real healer who can back you up .. You simply can't wait for their defensive cooldowns to wear off, you have to get that kill asap.

It's always nice to have fun, but I don't see how this can be competive against the best, or even decent teams .. I can see so many ways to counter you, compared to a healer+4 shaman team (which there's alot of ways to do - but rarely known) :)

Good luck, tho and grats with shoulders I assume? ;)

EDIT. Just noticed you said you were ranked top 15 with 2100 rating, that's hell of a difference from my battlegroup! I am not even in top 30 with 2132 rating!

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Originally Posted by 'Creazil',index.php?page=Thread&postID=215936#post 215936

I seriously can't see how this can work versus a decent team, they must either be stupid or not knowing what they're doing .. Without a healer you'll die fast versus aoe, even with a healer it can be hard to keep up with 2 or 3 aoe classes. Even if they lose a character while taking you down, they still have the advantage in my eyes. I think a team playing full offensive will take you down, no matter how much healing you do .. There's no way you can keep yourself up, if you succeed you'll die when you go oom or risk dps'ing - they'll kill you faster, than you can kill them.

And what do you do against range aoe teams (or heavy range single target dmg), which takes you down slowly by moving back and forth? Players which actually have a brain and can react with (trinket+) iceblock, shield wall, spell reflect, hunter reflect and pain suppression (etc..) within miliseconds? Cause you can't risk playing defensive, cause you got no real healer who can back you up .. You simply can't wait for their defensive cooldowns to wear off, you have to get that kill asap.

It's always nice to have fun, but I don't see how this can be competive against the best, or even decent teams .. I can see so many ways to counter you, compared to a healer+4 shaman team (which there's alot of ways to do - but rarely known) :)

Good luck, tho and grats with shoulders I assume? ;)

EDIT. Just noticed you said you were ranked top 15 with 2100 rating, that's hell of a difference from my battlegroup! I am not even in top 30 with 2132 rating!

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Sorry Krusch, but I completely agree with Aguy... I think you just had a lucky night against bad teams. There is no way to reliably survive high rated teams damage... even with a healer its a roll of the dice.

Keep trying tho I love hearing new ideas.. hopefully you find that next week it still works :)

Peace-
taj

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I am not even in top 30 with 2132 rating!

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If fail go french bg

Got shoulders now and i don't care about ratings, i did over 500 games with a healer, i need some fresh air...

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Originally Posted by 'Creazil',index.php?page=Thread&postID=215936#post 215936

I seriously can't see how this can work versus a decent team, they must either be stupid or not knowing what they're doing

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A decent team should also be able to beat a quad boxer with healer :>
I don't think that there is any pool where a multiboxer is able to get rank 1 at the end of the season