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Has anyone had any success with these yet? I'm still leveling mine at the minute, 72/73, but I can't even get past the first few pulls of trash in Nexus/Utgarde Keep. Starting to think this team is going to be fairly pointless at 80.
I've got a level 80 warrior tank as my main, so may switch a shaman with warrior, and spec another shaman to resto.. However i'd really like to play 5 shamans as the team.
You're going to need a tank if you want to run heroics in my experience. I'm sure at some point someone will clear a heroic or two with 5x shaman, but it might be a lot more trouble than it's worth until you totally outgear the instances. I'm sure a few heroic bosses can be taken out with 5x shamans right now though. But most hit like trucks. Not to mention trash can crit for 8-10K easy.
It's pretty tough with 5 shammies even on non-heroic in my experience. I didn't really have any problems with trash in Nexus or UK with 5 shammies, with 5 healing stream totems, stoneclaw, and rotating Thunderstorms. But bosses are really tough without a true tank, since Earth Elementals haven't scaled at all.
At 73, I was able to take down the void boss in Nexus and the first two bosses in UK with 5-shammies, but not go much farther. It was trivial by comparison with my DK added into the group to complete those instances.
Myself, Ive stopped running instances. I'm gonna bring my 5 shammies (at 76) up to 80, get some daily gold gathering going (still don't have my epic mounts), then finish my second team which includes both a pally + DK for tanking (currently at 73).
I'm thinking DK/3 shammies/boomkin for my main heroic farming group.
I think a tank is all you need. The shammies obviously don't have any damage mitigation to speak of so go down fast if one of them becomes the 'tank' A pali tank is easy to integrate into your team. You can either micromanage it if you like, or just spam a castrandom macro. (I prefer the former most of the time).
I have not gone with a dedicated healer. My reasoning is that 4 lesser healing waves + healing stream totems seem to be sufficient to keep the pali topped off. He can always bubble in an "oh-shit" situation, and because the damage he takes decreases as his health gets lower, it's really a no brainer. Since the healing is spread among 4 toons, none of them has to worry about aggro from healing and I don't have to worry about my dedicated healer getting CC'd. I can throw a 4x chain heal in there to deal with AoE if needed. I doubt it would work in arena, but for PvE instances, it's been fine. I have given some thought to subbing a boomkin in for one ele shammie for the buff and the instant HoT, as others have done.
A BM hunter will give you 3% more damage for the party with ferocious inspiration. A survival hunter will give you replenishment. Though balance druid would probably be an amazing addition to your team.Quote:
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Not sure exactly when, but I think it's been like that well before 3.0. What used to be broken was when it would stack, my 4 BM team would have a 12% damage buff for the party.Quote:
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A lot of classes provide great utility, and imo grounding totem isnt really worth much anymore in heroics. I run a pally+mage+3 shamans, and frankly I might replace one of the ele shamans if patch 3.08 doesn't up their DPS a bit. my mage, in basically equivalent gear, does 20-50% more dmg than my shamans. Now that I've spec'd one resto I rarely need to use all the shamans to heal as well. And of course free food + teleports + int buff is great, and if you spec frost you do +10% caster dmg buff plus replenishment when water elemental is up. The downside is that on hard bosses my mage dies. A lot! A complete lack of a heal button can be a big issue sometimes.
I thought about a hunter, but my concern would be that in the hard instances the pet wouldn't live long. Other option is boomkin for extra crit and 10% dmg buff, plus their ability to heal in a clutch is great.
I have pretty much all 5 man content on farm with a tank + 4 shaman. In normal 5 man's I have almost no downtime with 4x mana spring. Draktheron and Gundrak on farm in under 25 minutes. Oculus is a pain (for any multiboxer- controlling vehicles sucks).Quote:
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I wouldn't mind a balance druid for Earth and Moon though :)
It will only get better in 3.0.8 when ele Shammies get an "up to" 20% buff (depending on gear)
Hmm. I think i'll stick with the 5 shamans for now and get them all to 80, then switch in my warrior to tank once i get there. Shamans are at 73.5 now anyway so pointless dropping 1 at this stage.
Paladin may have been a better tank for a mutliboxer, but i used to raid with a warrior so know how to play it well.
At least i can always go and PvP with the 5 shamans i suppose !
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Had the same problem. Most people told me that i was doing something terrible wrong. So i watched some multibox movies, checked everything, ... it still didnt work.
My shams had the green northrend questgear... thats not good enough to run nexus. For example, the melee mobs at the begin of the instance hit really hard for a sham 70-72 in quest gear. They dont get knocked back, some people advised me to rotate thunderstorm. So i think that most people forget that they are in S3 or maybe S4 when they enter wotl; or at least S2 honor gear. The nexus multibox video that I have seen was made by a shaman in full S3 gear ,well he had no problem with nexus.
Best thing what you can do is...
Gear up... someone posted a guide here with all the elemental gear in wotl, incl better questgear than you probably have right now. (Forgot the name of the post)
Swap a shaman for a tankadin, or maybe your warrior, but aoe tanking as pally is really easy(compared to other classes). Youll be playing 5vs5 with a real healer anyway if you want to make a chance, so that leaves you with 4 shamans. PVE will be much easier, really. If you dont want to reroll, there are enough tanks that want to do instances with a boxer... they usually like it more then going with a real pug group once they have seen what a multiboxer does.
I know how frustrating it is, really... but this solved alot for me. btw sorry for the crappy english, im from belgium. :)