Focusless, 'leaderless' macro help & thoughts

hi, i've been working on the FTL setup, and I've assigned a special 'unique' macro which all of the others will be refering to on my action bar button 12...

Code:

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/assist
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt]ToonA;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift]ToonB;
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl]ToonC;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift]ToonD;

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and I also made up another macro to heal my guys... (which is similar to the one who send lighting bolts on mobs, but the [harm] macro isn't causing trouble here)

Code:

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/click ActionButton12
/cast [nomod,target=target] [target=targettarget] Healing wave

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and it works well as long as a toon is selected... main char or another one... something HAS to be targeted

my issue here is that I've switched to the 'FTL' from the 'Focus setup' and I lost a very conveignant way to heal the leader : the single press of the 'heal' button was actually healing the main focused character no matter it was targetting himself or a mob (I really enjoyed this which was used all the time)...

I'm missing a little piece of macro to tell the FTL macro system to heal the main assisted char whenever he's selected or not (mostly not selected btw), and of course that this setup will be true for each toon as soon as it's windows is being activated (and the toon selected as the master).

So I'm begging for your help, you macro gods :) hopping the FTL setup won't take my healling ways away.
Thank you all

edit : argh, wrong forum section :(

hi, i've been working on the FTL setup, and I've assigned a special 'unique' macro which all of the others will be refering to on my action bar button 12...

Code:

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/assist
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt]ToonA;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift]ToonB;
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl]ToonC;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift]ToonD;

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and I also made up another macro to heal my guys... (which is similar to the one who send lighting bolts on mobs, but the [harm] macro isn't causing trouble here)

Code:

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/click ActionButton12
/cast [nomod,target=target] [target=targettarget] Healing wave

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and it works well as long as a toon is selected... main char or another one... something HAS to be targeted

my issue here is that I've switched to the 'FTL' from the 'Focus setup' and I lost a very conveignant way to heal the leader : the single press of the 'heal' button was actually healing the main focused character no matter it was targetting himself or a mob (I really enjoyed this which was used all the time)...

I'm missing a little piece of macro to tell the FTL macro system to heal the main assisted char whenever he's selected or not (mostly not selected btw), and of course that this setup will be true for each toon as soon as it's windows is being activated (and the toon selected as the master).

So I'm begging for your help, you macro gods [img]../forum/images/smilies/smile.png[/img] hopping the FTL setup won't take my healling ways away.
Thank you all

Code:

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/cast [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt target=ToonA];[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift target=ToonB];[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl targer=ToonC];[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift target=ToonD]; heal spell here

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something along this line would work. Haven't tested it not sure if the syntax is correct

corrected the syntax of wowphreak a bit, the following should work:

Code:

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/cast [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=ToonC][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=ToonD] Healing Wave

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Change:

Code:

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/click ActionButton12
/cast [nomod,target=target] [target=targettarget] Healing wave

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to:

Code:

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/click ActionButton12
/cast [target=targettarget][] Healing wave

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and just pre-target your main before the fight. The toons will cast on the mains target if he has one that is friendly and a valid target, or heal the main if not. I use targettargettarget a lot of times to heal as well, this chain will heal whoever has pulled aggro on the mains targeted mob.

Hmm Interesting, I'll check it out..
I've never understood what the [] were for...

thanks !

EDIT : I gave a shot to your macro mod... It indeed works, but the need to select myself before anything ruins the way I play ...
secondary, the tests I've made shows me that this FTL system is almost slower (on target change) than the 'focus-setup' system ...

and the dual button macro is maybe slowing down the process a little bit more... and I can't just fit some macros inside the 255 char limit...
I'm disapointed.. I don't know what to do..

Can you enlight me ?

You'll need to do a bit of poking around here or on the wowwiki.com page but check out /click to help with the 255 char dilemma. You put all your targetting logic in a macro and throw it on a bar somewhere. Then you make all your macro's in the style of:
------------\/\/\/------------thats gonna be the part to look up it's what each button on a particular bar is called.
/click multibarrightbutton2
/cast [target=targettarget][] Something
/targetlasttarget

You want to add trinkets to that throw the trinket on a bar as well and the macro becomes

/click multibarrightbutton2
/click multibarrightbutton3
/cast [target=targettarget][] Something
/targetlasttarget

The empty logic brackets "[]" will allow the spell to go off like it normally would should you focus on that screen while pressing the button, or something is amiss with the mains target. Put as simply as possible it's a failsafe.

The FTL system is slower on acquiring targets than the focus system. This is because the toons must request the targets target while the mains focus, or anyone in the party's focus for that matter, is broadcast on change. The focus's information is also updated as often as the players information, meaning a focus target change will be seen as quickly as you would see your own target change. This simple fact is a FTL deal breaker for some. I learned to adapt to the delay of the targettarget and use it to my advantage. I know I can switch targets just before launching that last barrage of lightning bolts and the alts will finish off the last guy while I gain a 1 shot lead in aggro on the next target. In PVP this can be less useful of course.

I do healing with 6 buttons and a modifier on each. buttons 1-5 are the standard target=charname1-5 heal and ctrl big heal. The sixth is a group self heal or a target=player chain heal when ctrl is held. I simply put a /stopcasting on a few guys so they make sure to heal and the others "might" heal if they aren't casting something else. This method keeps the DPS up while making sure heals go off if needed. Sometimes it doesn't work as planned but my guys dont die and not dying is good so I consider the method okay.

The healing of targettargettarget can be used as well it's decent in pvp and works very well in pve. This basically means a heal is sent to the current character with aggro on the mob targeted by the main. With al these methods to consider it's often just trying to figure out how to cram them all into 1 macro with the right logic order. For example

Code:

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/assist main
/cast [help][target=targettargettarget][target=targettarget][] heal
/targetlasttarget

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will cast your heal on the char with aggro on the mains target, or your mains target, or finally just cast the damn heal on your target or yourself should you have selfcast selected in the options. This would be a good pve macro cause it will usually heal up the tank, and in an emergency you can pick the guy to heal, and should something have gone horribly wrong you heal yourself while you figure out whats not working and get back into the swing of things. If you had this same macro on all your characters and bound to the same button they would all stop dps to heal then go back to dps. This means it's not so good for pvp as you want to provide a constant onslaught, breaks in dps usually mean the first step in the slippery slope to death, so how do you handle pvp?

My 6 button method seems to do the trick for me, but the real "best method" is the one that works for you and you can quickly perform the needed actions. If focus works use it, and then just use your target as the "focus" for hex and whatnot, since focust hex is broken right now anyway this might work better.

whoah, thank you very much for your answer ..
I'll check on your advices asap :)