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Schwarz
07-29-2008, 08:33 AM
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/ringskirintor.jpg

Since I got my epic mounts I took a break from wow. I think I might have a reason to start grinding out dailies and heroics again.

Havelcek
07-29-2008, 08:35 AM
Holy gold sink Batman

Enti
07-29-2008, 08:39 AM
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/ringskirintor.jpg

Since I got my epic mounts I took a break from wow. I think I might have a reason to start grinding out dailies and heroics again.lol nice, well just think of it this way.. pre-bc to Bc transition.. gold was 5x easier to come by.. probably be the same for WOTLK so it won't as hard to get that much. That much gold in wotlk is probably like 1k-2k right now in bc.. hopefully anyways.. lol

Caspian
07-29-2008, 09:03 AM
You also need to look at the fact that #1, she is faction related to, I think the city faction, so you can get them down to 6400G each. #2, it is vendor loot, other then the teleport, how good will those be stat wise? And #3 will you even need/want a teleport to Dalaran will it be worth 8kG, even after WoTLK inflation?

Meathead
07-29-2008, 09:15 AM
Gratz

Mokoi
07-29-2008, 12:58 PM
SUP SHA! haven't seen you since our first encounter on the isle XD

Epic flyers already? nice. I raid on my guys and NEVER have gold lol I should start trying to figure out how to make gold and still raid lol

-Mcwrathy

succulent
07-29-2008, 01:06 PM
Interesting, I read a quote somewhere they wanted to put more money sinks in. Traditionally the Blizz design team have disdained letting you buy any decent gear at all, forcing you to grind new kinds of 'money' like honor or heroic badges. If it's possible to gear up completely (at least to a starter set) by just being stinking rich, that's intriguing. Altho, current faction gear is far cheaper than this, and some of it is pretty good (SSO caster necklace for instance).

How good are these rings compared to level 80 badge gear and drops in heroic 5-mans?

Stormweasel
07-29-2008, 01:14 PM
On a similar note, the lack of further information on this dual talent spec business is enough to bring me out in a fearful money-grind sweat.

Now thatīs got 20k a toon written all over it.

Schwarz
07-29-2008, 01:29 PM
SUP SHA! haven't seen you since our first encounter on the isle XD

Epic flyers already? nice. I raid on my guys and NEVER have gold lol I should start trying to figure out how to make gold and still raid lol

-Mcwrathy

I think my gals are still dead where you left them. I have gotten alot of resistance from my guild into allowing me to even try raiding. I have done kara once with my guys. Maybe it is time for a change of guilds.

What kind of stuff are you raiding with your guys?

Anozireth
07-29-2008, 01:30 PM
On a similar note, the lack of further information on this dual talent spec business is enough to bring me out in a fearful money-grind sweat.

Now thatīs got 20k a toon written all over it.Hmm, 20k a toon, how many respecs would it take for that to be worth it.... 20,000/50 = 400 ... or about once a day for just over a year. If you could do it on the spot whenever you're out of combat, that just might be worth it for hybrids.

Stormweasel
07-29-2008, 06:17 PM
Good point, hadnīt really done the maths just looked at from a scale up from the 5G epic mount in TBC.

I get the impression theyīre looking at smaller time-sinks but lots more of them ie barbershop, maybe 10k for this duel-talent spec, silly fun items (a la Griftah but actually worth having for fun), titles, mounts, superficial custom inscriptions from vendors, not to mention the 7.5k weapons/armor mentioned etc etc.

I hope this is the way theyīre going anyway.

Anozireth
07-29-2008, 06:32 PM
The only trouble I see with 7500g vendor epics is that it will inevitably encourage some people to buy gold. Then again, those people are probably already buying gold anyway, so who knows if it will really make a difference.

Mokoi
07-30-2008, 11:18 AM
SUP SHA! haven't seen you since our first encounter on the isle XD

Epic flyers already? nice. I raid on my guys and NEVER have gold lol I should start trying to figure out how to make gold and still raid lol

-Mcwrathy

I think my gals are still dead where you left them. I have gotten alot of resistance from my guild into allowing me to even try raiding. I have done kara once with my guys. Maybe it is time for a change of guilds.

What kind of stuff are you raiding with your guys?

Raiding was one of my goals on these guys. even though they are aq pvp team, i was sure I could do good things.

I have raided almost everything now, I have done:

Kara (1.5 hour runs with me now)
ZA (all except the last boss)
SSC (OK, Hydross sucks, Lurker is SUPER easy, Vashj is a blast, the rest are balls lol)
Hyjal (all except Archimonde, not sure id want to try him while boxing LOL)
AQ40 (easily)
ZG (solo)
Naxx (Easily enough)

I'm fairly sure I could do Illidan and the rest of BT on my guys too, if given the space to spread out and the chance to try it. Only boss im really scared of is Gorefiend.. if any of my guys get the doom then I'm completely fkd LOL. Mother wouldn't be too hot either.. if more than one of my guys got linked it would be a pain.

Drizzit
07-30-2008, 11:30 AM
On a similar note, the lack of further information on this dual talent spec business is enough to bring me out in a fearful money-grind sweat.

Now thatīs got 20k a toon written all over it.Do you have a link to this dual talent thing?

Greythan
07-30-2008, 12:17 PM
The only trouble I see with 7500g vendor epics is that it will inevitably encourage some people to buy gold. Then again, those people are probably already buying gold anyway, so who knows if it will really make a difference.

Completely agree. I would question that they are really going in this direction. The reason for the grind requirements and BoP is to discourage both gold selling and too much "twinking". I can't imagine they'll create a third route to epics in addition to raiding/PvP.

Drizzit
07-30-2008, 12:24 PM
They shouldn't do this because more people will buy gold. What they should do is have like non heroic badge gear, like blues that only come off of the last boss not the mini bosses in the instance. That will help people get into heroics. If they do it this way yes they can still buy badges but the gold sellers would need to get into your account to do it and it is easier for blizzard to trace this. Unless the gold sellers have accounts on every realm to just run you. Then it will be hard for blizzard to figure out if you are buying the run with real money. Just because the ip is from china doesn't mean it is a gold seller.

Nomak
07-30-2008, 01:02 PM
You also need to look at the fact that #1, she is faction related to, I think the city faction, so you can get them down to 6400G each. #2, it is vendor loot, other then the teleport, how good will those be stat wise? And #3 will you even need/want a teleport to Dalaran will it be worth 8kG, even after WoTLK inflation?I believe, based on other screen shots, that the rings start at 8k gold and the 7500ish price is already including some faction discounts. Possibly just honored or so but there was a thread on another forum with the rings at 8k and then 7.5k with some discounts.

Stormweasel
07-30-2008, 01:05 PM
Do you have a link to this dual talent thing?

No, sorry. It was part of the WWI Q&A session where somebody asked about the dual-spec thing again and they said it was something they were looking at how they could implement and considering it.

If you can find a transcript of those sessions, itīll be in there.

kadaan
07-30-2008, 01:10 PM
The never ending problem of what to do with gold. I love having gold sinks like this, as in BC once you have your epic flyer there's absolutely no need for gold anymore. On one hand I think there should _always_ be something to sink your gold into so gold always has a use. On the other hand it will encourage people to buy gold unless Blizzard is able to crack down harder on gold sellers and buyers.

Right now I'm sitting at 19k gold, with an epic mount and 4 pilton bags on both of my 70's. Just need a little more and I'll be able to buy my 4 guys coming up their epic flyers the day they hit 70.

Stormweasel
07-30-2008, 01:25 PM
Do you have a link to this dual talent thing?

No, sorry. It was part of the WWI Q&A session where somebody asked about the dual-spec thing again and they said it was something they were looking at how they could implement and considering it.

If you can find a transcript of those sessions, itīll be in there.

Actually, just found this news on the front page of MMO-Champion in their blue updates:

[url='http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8430106185&postId=84292583557&sid=1#7'[/url]
We talked about this recently at the Worldwide Invitational actually. We are looking into allowing players to basically have two talent specs that they can switch between but we are still working out the exact details so we will have to wait and see exactly how it will function in-game.

sparvath
07-30-2008, 05:40 PM
lets face it.

Old WoW - Took a lot of time to gather 1000g
BC WoW - 1000g is easy. 10.000g a lot of work but doable
Lich WoW - I doubt 100.000g will be much harder than 10.000g today

Klamor
07-30-2008, 09:46 PM
am i missing something? 7600+7600=15200=38k?

*edit* - haha wow.... forgot we were 5-boxing here

zanthor
07-31-2008, 07:50 AM
On a similar note, the lack of further information on this dual talent spec business is enough to bring me out in a fearful money-grind sweat.

Now thatīs got 20k a toon written all over it.Hmm, 20k a toon, how many respecs would it take for that to be worth it.... 20,000/50 = 400 ... or about once a day for just over a year. If you could do it on the spot whenever you're out of combat, that just might be worth it for hybrids.If it's an out of combat switch that doesn't require a trip to town to do this would be well worth 20K gold IMO. Warriors could switch to DPS on boss fights where they weren't needed as tanks, paladins could easily switch healing/retadin or healing/tankadin, same with priests holy/shadow, druids, shamans, etc... how about having warlocks who could spec specifically for bosses and still maintain great dps on trash, mages who could be arcane one pull and fire or frost the next... the raiding possibilities are endless. And it frees blizzard up to design encounters requireing a lot more of a specialization in raid build.

Right now you have fights that need 6 healers, and the rest DPS and others that need 8 or 9 and the rest dps... and your choice is offspec healers or parking healers outside the dungeon (and dps).

Carnage
07-31-2008, 08:28 AM
I doupt you can switch between the talent specs without going to the class trainer

Skuggomann
07-31-2008, 05:48 PM
Holy gold sink Batman

QFT and your awsum!

roddo
07-31-2008, 10:31 PM
I doupt you can switch between the talent specs without going to the class trainerWhy not, it seems like thats what they want to do. I agree it would be awesome, virtually every class has multiple ways to be played based on encounter or bounce from healer to tank, ranged dps or melee dps. Imagine having shaman along for melee dps boosts one fight, then healing the next one. Swapping between tank and dps or heals for pally's or warriors would be super useful. You'd just have to ensure everyone has a main spec for loot purposes, but otherwise this rocks.