Aelli Flamed by Arena Junkies XD XD

[Ashanis]

Click To Read ('http://arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?p=279028#post279028') They're gettin all pissy that he's owning their face XD XD :thumbsup:


EDIT*** also here's the link, I forgot some people would rather Copy/Paste than click links because of keyloggers or w/e.

http://arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?p=279028#post279028

[Jaese]

lol the OP goes from calling him a loser and saying he sucks to saying he's good and getting better at the end.

Plus all the people that are giving strats that won't work makes that thread a winner.

The AFKing accusations are interesting though. Just saying.

Everybody has a weakness though and people will bitch and bitch and bitch until they find it.

[bodefeld]

Aelli for President!
You're my idol!

[Lyonheart]

From what i have read/seen he uses another player to heal. They all keep saying he uses 5 shaman and he does not purge? I see him spam purge all the time in the videos lol. What they do not understand is 4 or 5 shaman in no way=easy wins. It takes hard work to get there. I cant even get my bitches back to 1500 lol. But i suck at PvP. I have a blast in AV but I'm not great in arenas at all.

[Tonuss]

The higher-rated arena players tend to be the most competitive PvPers, IMO. They take it pretty seriously and take pride in being good at it. So when they run into something that they can't handle, it's going to frustrate them much worse than someone getting gibbed in a BG. With them it's a matter of personal pride, so they get pretty nasty.

The thing is, though, that they're playing in a forum (arenas) where one of the keys to success is to go with certain group combinations because they are much more powerful than the average. In that thread some of them admit to queue-ducking some comps because they know they are at a disadvantage. But it's okay, that's just the way things are... until someone four-boxes a team of shaman. Then it's totally unfair and broken and a sign that you are a cheater with your I Win Button.

They don't seem to appreciate the... irony of that. :)

[Toned]

From what i have read/seen he uses another player to heal. They all keep saying he uses 5 shaman and he does not purge? I see him spam purge all the time in the videos lol. What they do not understand is 4 or 5 shaman in no way=easy wins. It takes hard work to get there. I cant even get my bitches back to 1500 lol. But i suck at PvP. I have a blast in AV but I'm not great in arenas at all.I feel you on this point I finished season 3 at 1800 (almost hit 1850), but season 4 i can't break the 1700 point 3v3 or 5v5. I was at 1720 3v3 and just slaughtered that last night wewt go me should have stopped queueing. Then 5v5 we keep bobbing between 1630-1700.

[TheElles]

I don't PVP, ever, cos I suck at it, so for those of us playing at home ... what is "queue dodging" and why is it considered bad manners? pls tp xcuse noobness kthx?

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Queue-dodging = not getting into the Arena queue when you know people who can beat you will be on. It's basically social engineering applied to arenas. No real sport ever gets away with this, thus the "LOL @ E-SPORT" threads when the "pros" get all uppity.

[Toned]

Basically queue dodging is playing at ungodly late as fuck times to avoid the "good teams", or playing till you run into some one that just wipes the floor with you. At this point you don't queue until they are already in a game or you just wait till later when you hope they're no longer online.

[Wilbur]

Queue-dodging = not getting into the Arena queue when you know people who can beat you will be on. It's basically social engineering applied to arenas. No real sport ever gets away with this, thus the "LOL @ E-SPORT" threads when the "pros" get all uppity.

But its because we are all jealous of their imba skillz AMIRITE?

[Skuggomann]

haha nice one.

[Ellay]

I'm going to need to put a disclaimer for multiboxing, something along the lines of "Multiboxing may cause celebrity status which can result in unwanted attention and a massive amount of hatred for your existence". :)

[Tidomann]

Yeah. When I do battelgrounds, I can only imagine what the general chat is like.

[yarr]

hehe wow, just came from that site, definitely a lot of ill will towards multiboxers there!

Also funny that a lot of the haters come from my server (Spirestone), and yet, i almost never get hate directed at me in-game. Funny!

[Tidomann]

Multiboxing = Cheating

Queue Dodge = Perfectly Acceptable

I'm going to have to add that to my adventures in stupidiy journal...rofl nice

[Bradster]

" To everyone else, Your Tears Taste So Good."
haha Epic

[Hetzer]

So much anger.... X(

On a side note. The only reason i decided to box was to learn the weakness and strengths of multiboxing....now i am hooked :wacko:

5 shammans lvl 60 and now if i could drag myself out of the 60 av bracket i may make it to 70..... :thumbsup:

[Diamndzngunz]

I'm going to need to put a disclaimer for multiboxing, something along the lines of "Multiboxing may cause celebrity status which can result in unwanted attention and a massive amount of hatred for your existence". :)lol

[Thomas]

Lol that's so funny.

What haters.

[Ifalna]

I really really love the

" We can't beat them so they are obviously shit "

factor. It's amazing.

[suprahunter]

sucks those pansies are dodging you man :\
keep doing what you do :)
i hope they next few weeks you get to knock them down to 5th or something :P

[Elili]

What's most hilarious about it is how suddenly everyone has beaten Ellay at some point or another, yet they are still bitching about how it's unfair and he shouldn't be able to play. Seems kind of.. how do you say, Bullox to me =)

[Meathead]

i hate it when ppl say his got no skill lol its harder to play 4 then just that 1 toon. END OF STORY!

[Drizzit]

On a side note. The only reason i decided to box was to learn the weakness and strengths of multiboxing....now i am hooked

Same here, well that and sick of lfg for heroics. That is how i know how to beat half the classes there. I know to get close to a hunter so he cannot shot you with arrows (dead zone is not as bad but they have to go into melee which many hunter have it low), if BM do there enrage don't waste your time stunning or fearing them, for rogue always have a dot on them and once you dot them pay attention because they can use cloak of shadows to remove them (locks forget that all the time, they dot me with like 5 dots then focus on someone else, i cloak and not taking damage, bet when the lock focus on me there like wtf where are the dots), also with rogue try to put on non magic dots cause cloak does not take them off, the reason for dots is because if they do vanish or stealth they will become visible next dot tick so they cannot cheap shot you. Shams go OOM quickly (found that out fighting them more then playing).

What would suck for a boxer is if they give a mage or rogue a AoE fear. They could blink/shadow step in and fear

[Anjuna]

rofl... I love how they (AJ) claim to be a safe haven for intelligent and constructive Arena discussion, yet everything I have read there is as bad or worse than the wow forums.

"omg I am soooo prooo guys"

"yeah i am pro too"

"lol noob 1800 is not pro"

"stfu noob this is my alt"

"ur class takes no skill"


Same shit different colored forums, imo.

[Overflo]

I can only hope to be hated this much eventually.

[merujo]

aelli turns single chars with A&D. llololol

[Ellay]

Dude I am a keyboard turning pro, sometimes when I want to get flashy I mix up a little "Q" and "E" for strafing madness.

[Tidomann]

Dude I am a keyboard turning pro, sometimes when I want to get flashy I mix up a little "Q" and "E" for strafing madness.Haha.

OH SHIT GUYS, HE'S STRAFING THIS MATCH

[Tonuss]

I really really love the

" We can't beat them so they are obviously shit "

factor. It's amazing.Yeah, that's pretty funny. On the one hand you have people saying that they cannot beat him so obviously it's cheating, on the other hand you have teams explaining that they beat him all the time. Remember one of those threads on the WoW forum, where one person claims his team beat Ellay's team in 28 of 32 games that season? Ellay's record that season was 115-22. The same people who claimed to hand him more losses than he had all season, kept whining that his team was overpowered.

Looks to me like high-end arena is 10% PvP and 90% trash talk. Really really bad trash talk. "Oh yeah? Our team beat yours 15 times last week!!!" "Uh, dude... we only played eleven games last week and went 9-2." "Well those two losses were to US, then!!!" lol

[Ellay]

I had a good conversation with the OP, he jumped in on my vent and then we spoke on his. This is basically what I got out of it.

They made lvl 1 characters and ran them to my location and would monitor me until I would get into a game so they could dodge me. They knew exactly who I was playing and if I won/loss apparently.
They queue dodged me so much they didn't get enough games in, and refused to play against me last night, causing them to only get 3 games in for the week. So they got 0 points and weren't too happy about that.

[Tonuss]

I had a good conversation with the OP, he jumped in on my vent and then we spoke on his. This is basically what I got out of it.

They made lvl 1 characters and ran them to my location and would monitor me until I would get into a game so they could dodge me. They knew exactly who I was playing and if I won/loss apparently.
They queue dodged me so much they didn't get enough games in, and refused to play against me last night, causing them to only get 3 games in for the week. So they got 0 points and weren't too happy about that.That is beyond epic.

[Havelcek]

I had a good conversation with the OP, he jumped in on my vent and then we spoke on his. This is basically what I got out of it.

They made lvl 1 characters and ran them to my location and would monitor me until I would get into a game so they could dodge me. They knew exactly who I was playing and if I won/loss apparently.
They queue dodged me so much they didn't get enough games in, and refused to play against me last night, causing them to only get 3 games in for the week. So they got 0 points and weren't too happy about that.That's funny...if that's all true then you can basically queue grief them =)

[Tdog]

I'm going to need to put a disclaimer for multiboxing, something along the lines of "Multiboxing may cause celebrity status which can result in unwanted attention and a massive amount of hatred for your existence". :)That's not multi-boxing bro, that comes from SUCESS! You're sucessful in anything and the jealous will find anything to flame you on. Try to make is seemed like you cheated or are not as good as you really are, basically trying to repair their brusied egos.

They should be taking their butt whoopings with a grain of salt, learning from their mistakes, and coming back with new tactics rather than doing the same ol' crap that clearly is not working. Your burst damage is your strength, they already know that yet they continuely seem not to try to advoid it. Your alt's mobility is your weakness yet, very few solo boxers seem to have realized this, and I've yet to see any teams in your vids try to exploit it. Maybe a couple of rogues but 1 rogue is isn't going to do much and in the end is just going to get his butt kicked.

[Ellay]

You hit the nail on the head. My team was 1 and 3 against a 2345 setup using a Shaman as a healer, we talked about strats and what we could do differently. Looked at all the angles of how their team adapted to me and found a huge weakness.
We queued up more and went 3 wins - 6 losses against them. Instead of stopping we pushed forward and worked out the problem, ending up with 6 wins / 6 losses, with the last 3 matches being wins and they stopped. We figured them out and they finally did not have an answer.
It truly is about adaptation, and so many teams hit the top and feel they no longer need to evolve.

[Tdog]

...It truly is about adaptation, and so many teams hit the top and feel they no longer need to evolve.EXACTLY! Seen this happen some many times irl or even in raiding guilds. They get to the top and assume that they will always be there without putting for any real effort to evolve and become better indiviually and as a team as a whole. Shortly after they develop this attitude they follow off the radar and are like "wtf happend?" Some of them will understand that they stopped trying and thus stopped making the progress, but other's, much like these QQ'ers, choose instead of admitting the truth rather hold stubbornly to their pride and egos and blame their losses on whatever they can to make themselves feel like they were "cheated" out of their progress.

[Drizzit]

They made lvl 1 characters and ran them to my location and would monitor me until I would get into a game so they could dodge me. They knew exactly who I was playing and if I won/loss apparently.
They queue dodged me so much they didn't get enough games in, and refused to play against me last night, causing them to only get 3 games in for the week. So they got 0 points and weren't too happy about that.

Wow i never got that bad dodging ques. What i do is if my teammate and myself lose within 1 minute of a team (i mean they like 1 hit us and were dead), i wait 1 minute before i reque for the next arena so hopefully i don't get them again.

[kidvid]

I'm a regular browser of ArenaJunkies and I've seen a lot of playful, but respectful, trash-talking on there, but this really takes the cake! I can't believe how immature and uncivil some of the posters were in the thread.

Since I have a login on there, I went ahead and reported 4 or 5 of the most offensive posts, where the post was outrageously insulting. It looks like I wasn't the only one who was doing that as Tyveris, the mod, closed the thread after writing that it was "getting reported left and right."

The thing that pisses me off about some of those guys is the sense of entitlement they have.

ArenaJunkies != ElitistJerks.

To illustrate this point, a few months ago I made a post on ElitistJerks and signed my character name on the bottom of my post, like "Tokov, Gorefiend."

Just for using a signature of any kind, my post was reported. After a forum mod saw the report, he gave a warning for breaking their forum rules, and told me I would be banned for doing it again, heh.

[zanthor]

NERD! GEEK! Loser!

Oh wait...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/10/28/
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[Fastway]

1000 replies of random crap.

I only have one question to add Ellay, what is your highest rating you've had without multiboxing? There are so many "rumours" and claims in that thread, would you be so kind and confirm it yourself please.

[Ellay]

Well I've only played on a serious team once, the rest are with friends and there is no drive, it's just to have fun.
On the one serious team that so many refer try to bash I played on .. I'll give a storyboard to it :P

A guildie of mine (Maintain) who also had a high rated 5v5 team had just lost their Shaman. They put a post up on various forums looking for a new one and someone noted they were interested but they would not be able to transfer until the following week. After various trash talking and going back and forth I agree to help them out for the week, they only needed 7 games to get their points for the week and explained I would not be staying.
The team rating was 2300, and we were matched up against another top 5 team that was also rated 2300.
We ended up 3 wins and 4 losses, the wins were only after I told them to change their strategy as it wasn't working. After the games were done I left the team and ended up playing both teams the following week stomping them properly.

so my only experience playing on a serious team is at 2300 rating and we still pulled almost a 50/50 split against a team that was ranked higher than theirs. As for getting kicked off the team blah blah, everyone knew I wasn't staying - just helping them out. I suppose any way you look at it though they can spin the story, probably shouldn't of helped them in the first place :)

[Dooz]

Haha... they locked the thread. The whole time reading I thought to myself... "they honestly think its 5v1." they think a keybroadcaster has given each of your characters superpowers. Oh well, can't teach the unteachable.

[Jezebel]

im surprised it took not-quite two pages to get to the obligatory "you have no life" comment i was expecting much sooner.

HI! im in your interwebz forum, being leeter than you at wow, calling you a nerd.

[Tonuss]

You hit the nail on the head. My team was 1 and 3 against a 2345 setup using a Shaman as a healer, we talked about strats and what we could do differently. Looked at all the angles of how their team adapted to me and found a huge weakness.
We queued up more and went 3 wins - 6 losses against them. Instead of stopping we pushed forward and worked out the problem, ending up with 6 wins / 6 losses, with the last 3 matches being wins and they stopped. We figured them out and they finally did not have an answer.Just remember, when you went 3-6 you were a no-talent scrub. When you went 3-0 you were a no-talent CHEATING scrub.

:)

PS- Someone mentioned the Elitist Jerks forum and how strict their moderation is. I like it because they actively work to maintain a very specific forum atmosphere. Yes, they will ding you for something as minor as adding a signature within your post. But they also keep out a lot of the General WoW Forum retards and they foster an environment where people are encouraged to make well-written and well-thought-out comments.

[Littleburst]

You hit the nail on the head. My team was 1 and 3 against a 2345 setup using a Shaman as a healer, we talked about strats and what we could do differently. Looked at all the angles of how their team adapted to me and found a huge weakness.
We queued up more and went 3 wins - 6 losses against them. Instead of stopping we pushed forward and worked out the problem, ending up with 6 wins / 6 losses, with the last 3 matches being wins and they stopped. We figured them out and they finally did not have an answer.PS- Someone mentioned the Elitist Jerks forum and how strict their moderation is. I like it because they actively work to maintain a very specific forum atmosphere. Yes, they will ding you for something as minor as adding a signature within your post. But they also keep out a lot of the General WoW Forum retards and they foster an environment where people are encouraged to make well-written and well-thought-out comments.I agree there. I've learned a lot when starting raiding and how to manage a raid, since i'm an officer in my current guild, by reading there. Imo it's pathetic someone can get banned for a signature, but it's the only wowforum that has very few retardposts. So aslong as those strict rules work, it's worth ajusting to.

[Jorai]

people don't understand that multi boxing is it's own vibe and your keys are bound differently, you act/react differently, and have your mind working through different strategies. my point is that anyone who says you have to "prove" yourself by getting a single shaman to a high rated team is a moron because that's a completely different game.

i don't bother dueling anyone while i'm leveling for this very reason. my keybinds are set to something that is intuitive for my MB rotation, my characters are undergeared if not naked or in RP gear, etc. etc. For example as I level my pally and priest to catch up to my three warlocks i have the priest in the new haliscan outfit and a nobles monocle, with the nail-in-board mace from the human starting area. her keys are bound to flow with the paladin's moves...so basically what i'm getting at is she isn't set up to 1v1 and as i play them more they will become even more intertwined.

well ellay i'm sure you're beyond caring about these guys with their "get an elemental shaman to 2200's in 2's" but it's just funny that they don't "get" how stupid those comments are.