WOTLK and shaman specs / dilema

[Crayonbox]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?shaman

5x thunderstorm or 5x nature's swiftness?

Looking at the new thunderstorm talent and just thinking... melee wouldn't be able to come anywhere near your shamans if you have that up and hit it all at the same time. And I would assume that damage done by thunderstorm is effected by spell damage. Really scary~

Of course we do not know anything until it actually goes live, but how about some healthy discussions while we wait? :P

Thoughts? Comments?

[aNiMaL]

I'ld say thunderstorm, but hey, i'm still at lvl 44, so no clue really,

45 sec cd insta damage and knockback all in melee range
vs
3 min cd insta anything

[Goodguy]

5x thunderstorm on round robin, BRING IT MELEE !!! mohahaahaha

[Drizzit]

It might be a PvE and PvP thing again. Nature is probably still worth getting for PvP for the instant dead. Thunderstorm is good though too, if you put it on a rotation you can use one every 11 seconds, so no one can get close to you, but i see this more of a PvE thing because you get mana back. Have to see what Ellay thinks.

what do you think of this: Build ('http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?shaman=550300150321405102531351150050310010000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000')

[Ellay]

We'll need to wait and see :) Lately in Arenas I've been doing really good at dropping the first initial target without Nature's Swiftness or using it and failing to drop a target but still winning the match.
At this point trying to focus more on overall effectiveness vs 1 hit wonder. Still pre-wotlk NS is without a doubt the way to go, but Thunder appears very promising.

[Knapenburger]

Thunder is an AOE if I recall. You can destroy whole cities with that shit.

[Crayonbox]

The fact that its an pbaoe, you can drop your firenova and right before it ticks, drop your thunderstorms as well. pretty much instadeath to any melee that is around you haha.

but pre wotlk ns is definetly the way to go.