Dualboxed

[Apollo127]

I found a guy who has created an incredible script for AHK. I've never used AHK before, but when he released his script I decided to give it a go and I LOVE IT! Is anyone else using this script? The site is dualboxed.com. I definately recommend this for anyone who is new to multi boxing, because you don't need any macros on your slaves! Except maybe pet attack, or a few others I'm not thinking of. :thumbsup:

[daviddoran]

I'm at work so I can't check it out, but what exactly does it do?

[Apollo127]

Its amazing, heres some of the features that come off the top of my head.

Whenever you invite your slaves to a group, they auto accept.
If you move over to one of your slave windows and move, it automatically makes that char leader, and all the other chars will follow him.
Slaves auto follow the leader.
You don't need macros for all your spells.

Thats all that comes off the top of my head lol

[DigitalDeuce]

Can you tell us what it does? there isn't any information on his site,
which is very very hard to read because of his color choice.



I'm nervous because of it being an addon and a script. Dont' want any
autmation banning happening because I couldn't see what it does first.

[Metalocalypse]

Would be awesome if we could 'see' the script :thumbsup:

[Knytestorme]

Just went and had a look, wouldn't really recommend this.

The ahk "script" is an exe that sits in your toolbar while running. Didn't get any pop-ups from Sophos here on my work pc but certainly not something I'd feel safe running at home. Should be no reason for the creator to not make the script alone available for people to run in AHK if they want rather than it being an exe with no transparency.

[Apollo127]

Idk, Its probably a exe to make it easier. All you have to do is run your wows, then start up the exe, 1 click and the programs running. No setup needed, or any knowledge of AHK.

[Sajuuk]

Nonetheless, I wouldn't trust it.

[Knytestorme]

No setup needed, or any knowledge of AHK.

And this is a problem. People who don't understand how to get things happening in AHK, or at the least understand what they are looking at in a script, should not be using it. The potential for abuse is too large, have even seen at times scripts here that are seemingly innocuous but end up having delays in them that will get accounts banned, so it's reckless for people to promote things that make it easier for people to inadvertantly break the rules and get their accounts banned.

Add to that the fact the creator doesn't seem to be part of this community and doesn't have the apparent transpency that keyclone and freddie have with regards to their closed-source projects and the risk of this exe being malicious increases rapidly.

[Apollo127]

Yea, I doubt I'll be using it anytime soon anyways, a few bugs needed to be worked out. And I love keyclone anyways :) Just wanted to know if anyone was successfully using that script..

[Bena]

so you love the script but won't use it.. is it just me or my paranoia about keylogging websites is tingling..??

[keyclone]

since when are AHK scripts in exe files???

and what command would be given that would sync your targets between your characters without in-game macros? how does it know which character to assist? what if the 'main' dies? how do you switch over?

seems a bit odd to me

[Bradster]

Sophos here on my work pc
Completely off topics here (sorry). We run Sophos here at work, Have you had any problems with the ROUTERNT.EXE taking up all the CPU and memory? I've tried all the fixes for it, but over time (week, months) it always comes back.

[Knytestorme]

Haven't seen that issue here, though we see the update just hang on a lot of our windows boxes for no apparent reason, usually gets fixed with a reboot and could be related to ZenWorks but no, never seen any 100% spikes on any workstations or in any of our labs.

On topic, I'm still thinking I'm going to have to reformat this pc now...keylogger senses on overload and I don't really trust Sophos that much. Only thing that's got me less concerned is how tight our firewalls ar but still, better to be safe.

[zanthor]

since when are AHK scripts in exe files???

and what command would be given that would sync your targets between your characters without in-game macros? how does it know which character to assist? what if the 'main' dies? how do you switch over?

seems a bit odd to mehttp://autohotkey.free.fr/docs/Scripts.htm

According to that you can convert your script to a .exe, since AHK seems to be a specialized version of AutoIT (or at least horribly similar) that feature makes sense...


; <COMPILER: v1.0.47.6>
#Persistent
#IfWinActive, World of Warcraft
SetTitleMatchMode, 3
SetKeyDelay, -1
Thread, interrupt, 0
SetBatchLines, -1

WoW = World of Warcraft
WinGet, WinID, List, %WoW%
ActiveWin := WinExist("A")
LastFollow := A_TickCount - 1000


~r::
~/::
Suspend, On
Return
~Enter::
~NumpadEnter::
Suspend, Toggle
Return


~1::
~2::
~3::
~4::
~5::
~6::
~7::
~8::
~9::
~0::
~-::
~=::
StringTrimLeft, ThisKey, A_ThisHotKey, 1
ThisID := WinExist("A")
If (ThisID != ActiveWin)
{
SendInput ^![
ActiveWin := ThisID
}
Loop, %WinID%
If (ThisID != WinID%A_Index%)
ControlSend,, {Control Down}{Alt Down}\{Alt Up}{Control Up}{%ThisKey%}, % "ahk_id" WinID%A_Index%
Return


~x::
~z::
~Space::
StringTrimLeft, ThisKey, A_ThisHotKey, 1
ThisID := WinExist("A")
If (ThisID != ActiveWin)
{
SendInput ^![
ActiveWin := ThisID
}
Loop, %WinID%
If (ThisID != WinID%A_Index%)
ControlSend,, {%ThisKey%}, % "ahk_id" WinID%A_Index%
Return


~q::
~w::
~e::
~a::
~s::
~d::
~Up::
~Down::
~Left::
~Right::
~XButton1::
ThisID := WinExist("A")
If (ThisID != ActiveWin)
{
SendInput ^![
ActiveWin := ThisID
}
If (A_TickCount - LastFollow > 1000)
Loop, %WinID%
If (ThisID != WinID%A_Index%)
{
ControlSend,, {Control Down}{Alt Down}]{Alt Up}{Control Up}, % "ahk_id" WinID%A_Index%
LastFollow := A_TickCount
}
Return


Thats the contents of the AHK executable... at first blush I don't see anything magic and definitely not anything that looks like it would cause you issues... As for switching who's main it does it based on window focus and sending a new keystroke to the partnered UI mod which says "i'm the master now" and sets the other instances to follow.

That last part IS an assumption, as I've not cracked the LUA, but thats my 30 seconds of insight into this.

[zanthor]

On topic, I'm still thinking I'm going to have to reformat this pc now...keylogger senses on overload and I don't really trust Sophos that much. Only thing that's got me less concerned is how tight our firewalls ar but still, better to be safe.

It's not a keylogger. Google is your friend, don't panic, don't freak out, and FFS don't run executables you don't trust BEFORE you google and use your head ;).

[Knytestorme]

what decompiler did you use for that Zant, as I'm taking it that's the output from decomping the exe in question?

[Knytestorme]

On topic, I'm still thinking I'm going to have to reformat this pc now...keylogger senses on overload and I don't really trust Sophos that much. Only thing that's got me less concerned is how tight our firewalls ar but still, better to be safe.

It's not a keylogger. Google is your friend, don't panic, don't freak out, and FFS don't run executables you don't trust BEFORE you google and use your head ;).hehehe, sound advice....no way in hell would I have done it at home, but at work, well..... ;)

[zanthor]

what decompiler did you use for that Zant, as I'm taking it that's the output from decomping the exe in question?exe2ahk.exe downloaded from AutoHotKeys website.

http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic6973.html

Found the link in that thread after a google.

[DigitalDeuce]

thing that fired off my spidey-sense was that the guy who wrote it, confessed to being a Glider user who got his accounts banned because of it.

[Bradster]

Haven't seen that issue here, though we see the update just hang on a lot of our windows boxes for no apparent reason, usually gets fixed with a reboot and could be related to ZenWorks but no, never seen any 100% spikes on any workstations or in any of our labs.

On topic, I'm still thinking I'm going to have to reformat this pc now...keylogger senses on overload and I don't really trust Sophos that much. Only thing that's got me less concerned is how tight our firewalls ar but still, better to be safe. I went to some demo deal for work with a co-worker. Sophos was there brought it back with us since we were looking for a Virus software. After the install I received the blue screen of death and it crashed my machine.
I tried it on another machine different type and software image, same thing. My co-worker went ahead and approved it, I wrote a detailed e-mail of my results using the software. They decided to go ahead and purchase it for the entire place anyway, because of the low price per seat.
Over the years we’ve experienced numerous problems that used up tons of man hours to correct, not from viruses but from bugs with that software package. Finally six years later of dealing with this and now this new RouterNT.exe I wrote a nasty e-mail XD. Mainly because they complained that the machines continue to be a problem (it comes back once in a while).

I said, “I hope this experience will give my review more worth”. I’m sure that pissed a few of the higher up’s off, but I was the one fixing the thing for the last six years. Least that allowed me to uninstall it, no problems since.

All the IT guys here have a different anti-virus installed hehe.

[Knytestorme]

Yeah, def POS software and I can't stand it, there is no reason for us to not be using AVG, NOD or Avast really but we keep renewing the Sophos licences.

[Apollo127]

thing that fired off my spidey-sense was that the guy who wrote it, confessed to being a Glider user who got his accounts banned because of it.That doesn't make it look bad.. He botted, got caught, and wanted to find a different way to make the game different.

[Shaone]

Gosh, sorry guys. Didn't realize there was so much fuss over releasing the AHK script as an exe file. I figured it'd be easier that way since AHK comes with a compile option and it would get rid of the AutoHotKey dependency. In the next release, I'll definitely include the AHK script source as well for those that want to run alongside AHK.

[Apollo127]

Gosh, sorry guys. Didn't realize there was so much fuss over releasing the AHK script as an exe file. I figured it'd be easier that way since AHK comes with a compile option and it would get rid of the AutoHotKey dependency. In the next release, I'll definitely include the AHK script source as well for those that want to run alongside AHK.Hey man, no worries, some people here have accounts with 5 70's and what not, so they just want to be careful.. If I can get my current bugs fixed I might run this :)

[Gadzooks]

The autofollow worries me, how are you accomplishing this? Anything that automatically sets follow for you smacks of automation, and something Blizz would ban for.

If you want this community to accept and recommend this, I would get a thumbs up from Blizzard first, like KeyClone did. I don't want to see people start using this and then watch them all get banned, ya know?

Like it was said above, we all put a lot of time, effort and money into our accounts, we need to be beyond sure that addons and exe's are legit and won't cause problems. Releasing the code is a good positive step to take, and lets take a look at everything it does to see any potential problems. We're MBers, we like to tinker. :)

I'd start over at the WoW Addons forum, and see if it causes any red flags for anyone over there.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Gosh, sorry guys. Didn't realize there was so much fuss over releasing the AHK script as an exe file. I figured it'd be easier that way since AHK comes with a compile option and it would get rid of the AutoHotKey dependency. In the next release, I'll definitely include the AHK script source as well for those that want to run alongside AHK.No big deal. We're just extremely careful to make sure the tools we use are kosher. Would SUCK to get an account banned that has almost 300 days /played on it with multiple 70 teams on multiple servers. ;) Source = WIN.

If we can get the source and it has the features mentioned in the OP, I'd give serious consideration to using it.

Cheers,
Ugh

[gbremset]

Its amazing, heres some of the features that come off the top of my head.

Whenever you invite your slaves to a group, they auto accept.
If you move over to one of your slave windows and move, it automatically makes that char leader, and all the other chars will follow him.
Slaves auto follow the leader.
You don't need macros for all your spells.

Thats all that comes off the top of my head lolWhenever you invite your slaves to a group, they auto accept. - Eliminating a keypress for accepting invites makes it automation..

Slaves auto follow the leader. - Eliminating a keypress for your slaves to follow the leader makes it automation..

If you move over to one of your slave windows and move, it automatically makes that char leader - This function I like.. It would save me in a good few ho-shit moments. :P

You don't need macros for all your spells. - This function sounds a bit like automation (on first glance) to me, but I'd want more details..

[Shaone]

If auto accepting group invites was automation, the AcceptParty() function would be protected. Same goes for FollowUnit().

[Apollo127]

Idk, I'm gunna give it another go tomorrow morning on my 3 mage setup. Hey Shaone, I'd recommend you put some kind of forum on your blog, for support, ect. Since there isn't one now I have one quick question.. Do you know why I can have all 3 chars jump at once, buff at once ect, but 1 of the 3 chars doesn't target my leaders target? She also has trouble following leader..

[Majestic_Clown]

I havent downloaded the addon or script *but* the only want I can think of how this works is when AHK detects a new active screen it would send an automatic command to adjust the follow command etc

Im at work and cant download the addon, we need confirmation on exaclty how this works.

[Otlecs]

Wow. Reading this thread, my thoughts went from "troll" to "keylogger" to "automation" to "hmmm, if that's legit then it's absolute gold dust" :)

And that's where I am now. I'll steer clear until I'm absolutely certain in my own mind that it's not going to lose me my 11 level 70s, but I'll be watching closely!


You don't need macros for all your spells. - This function sounds a bit like automation (on first glance) to me, but I'd want more details..
I don't have macros for my spells either. I just use an assist macro. Works like a dream, and that feature in itself doesn't even hint towards automation.

The other stuff I agree with you on at first glance.

[gbremset]

If auto accepting group invites was automation, the AcceptParty() function would be protected. Same goes for FollowUnit().Yes, but from what I understand of the description, it appears that it requires only one keypress to auto invite and auto accept, the "AcceptParty" function only works after the fact, meaning that without a delay, you can't send both the invite, and the acceptparty on the same keypress..

Of course, I may be wrong..

[Frosty]

If auto accepting group invites was automation, the AcceptParty() function would be protected. Same goes for FollowUnit().Yes, but from what I understand of the description, it appears that it requires only one keypress to auto invite and auto accept, the "AcceptParty" function only works after the fact, meaning that without a delay, you can't send both the invite, and the acceptparty on the same keypress..

Of course, I may be wrong..There are addons that already do this though. Multiboxer2 (sp?) does this. I hit an invite button, and all of them accept (because they are on the friends list). Then it even sets the loot to FFA.
If it's done with legitimate, supplied functions, then I think it's ok.

[DigitalDeuce]

I will be keeping an eye on this -- because if it does hold up to
Blizzard and this community scrutiny - I'll be the champion of it --
sounds wonderful.

[Shaone]

If auto accepting group invites was automation, the AcceptParty() function would be protected. Same goes for FollowUnit().Yes, but from what I understand of the description, it appears that it requires only one keypress to auto invite and auto accept, the "AcceptParty" function only works after the fact, meaning that without a delay, you can't send both the invite, and the acceptparty on the same keypress..

Of course, I may be wrong..Currently, the addon just waits for the party invite event to occur, checks if the invite came from a person on your friends list and accepts if so. In later versions, you'll have a "multiboxer ID" assigned to your addon so you won't be required to have them on your friends list, just in the same guild. This will also fix the odd problems that occur in battlegrounds.

[zanthor]

This thing only does one thing that's NOT already being done by other software combined, it sends a keystroke to wow when it receives focus. This is definitely gray area.

[Shaone]

Yes, I understand it's a bit of a gray area sending an extra keystroke when the active window is changed. I've been trying to think of a solution to remove the need for the extra keystrokes and I think I just found one.

I had planned later on to have AutoHotKey automatically move/resize the WoW windows when you changed the active window. In my case, one window is always much smaller than the other. Currently if I want to resize it, I have to do it manually and it gets kind of frustrating in sticky situations. I just took a glance at WoWWiki and it seems there's an event fired any time the window size is adjusted. That event can trigger the change of the boxed leader instead of the keystroke to binding. I just hope it fires for a manual resize an not just when changing the resolution in the video settings in-game.

[Apollo127]

So shaone, is there anywhere I can get some quick support on my small issue?

[Shaone]

So shaone, is there anywhere I can get some quick support on my small issue?I'm honestly not sure, but if you could PM me your AIM/MSN, I'll see if we can troubleshoot it.

[Apollo127]

pm'd

[Carnage]

Looks promising, if it can get approval by blizzard i'd probablly use it. Although i seen your video about how it will automatically follow the focus'd windows, i dont see how this is differnt to keyclones PiP + Maximiser. The keys i use to switch windows are the same keys i have macro's bound to that follow the new focus and make him party leader. Is it any differnt? I fear alot of the good stuff sounds like automation to me :(


why is the exe flagging as a trojan under various antivirus's?.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/6325/ohnoezno6.th.jpg ('http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ohnoezno6.jpg')

Scan taken at : http://virusscan.jotti.org/

[Apollo127]

If it was a trojan I don't think Kevin (Shaone) would have talked to me for over a hour last night helping me fix a little issue I had with his script.. He even sent me a script with a change so it doesn't use a guild feature, since I'm on trials on 2 of my accounts.

[keyclone]

why is the exe flagging as a trojan under various antivirus's?. correction... according to that image... it flagged as 6 trojans (* ouchie *)

as for why would a trojan writer talk to you on the phone? why not?
you probably don't have a real name or any way to connect with him or identify him.

i still don't see any real reason why an AHK script should be in an exe

[Shaone]

As I mentioned before, I initially wanted to remove the dependency of AutoHotKey itself. But after this thread, I will include the AHK script source as well. Read page 2, there was someone who posted the script source using exe2ahk. There's nothing in there that's capable of creating a trojan or keylogging you.

Carnage: Do me a favor. Create or copy+paste an AHK script (any script other than mine). Right click the .ahk file and click "Compile Script." Put that into your virus scanner and see if gives the same trojan warnings. I'll bet it has something to do with the way AHK builds the exe files, not my script.

As for identifying me, anyone can do a whois search on my domain dualboxed.com.

[Apollo127]

It showing 6, instead of 1 doesn't seem like a big difference when theres like 20 other ones on that , that don't find anything. Its just those crappy anti-virus programs that are finding the same thing, because they have the same database of "viruses"

[Carnage]

I just tried what you suggested, i used a script i found on these forums : KeyPressRelay ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=4717')
Compiled it to a exe, although the first script didnt find a virus when scanned - the second script did.

First script scan:

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scriptkt2.jpg

Second script scan:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6833/script2uz4.jpg

Has to be something to do with how the AHK scripts are used to why it is showing up as trojan, i do now feel that it most likely is safe but you know , i did the scan and automaticlly believed it - i have no knowledge of AHK, infact only knowlegdge i do have is visual basic which i 'learnt' at college last year :P

If you call if statements & other basics , learning :P

[Otlecs]

How are people getting on with this so far?

I'm still interested in its progress :)

[Apollo127]

How are people getting on with this so far?

I'm still interested in its progress :)

Its working good for me, but I had to restart it a lot due to it having trouble keeping sync with more than 2 chars. It works for a while when I first start, then it will just stop sending half the signals to my 3rd char. I've talked to Shaone and he said he will be working out getting the bug fixed soon, but he has a lot of other projects right now. Hopefully it will have 3+ capability working 100% soon.. But if you are only 2 boxing then it works amazingly.

[Metalocalypse]

Haven't really checked the addon (not the ahk)..but..what does it do?

[-silencer-]

Idk, Its probably a exe to make it easier. All you have to do is run your wows, then start up the exe, 1 click and the programs running. No setup needed, or any knowledge of AHK.
And the fact that it's an exe instead of a true AHK script means that it COULD have all the functions of AHK wrapped into one nice .exe, plus a nifty keylogger as well.

Screw that.. plus the "features" of this "script" seem to be crossing the line of automation. If it does more than simply broadcast keys, it will probably be seen as illegal in Bliz's eyes.

When your accout gets looted/deleted/stolen.. don't blame us for not warning you. Remove this .exe now, and change your account passwords from a different computer. I wouldn't feel safe now without a complete reformat.

[Jaese]

Idk, Its probably a exe to make it easier. All you have to do is run your wows, then start up the exe, 1 click and the programs running. No setup needed, or any knowledge of AHK.
And the fact that it's an exe instead of a true AHK script means that it COULD have all the functions of AHK wrapped into one nice .exe, plus a nifty keylogger as well.

Screw that.. plus the "features" of this "script" seem to be crossing the line of automation. If it does more than simply broadcast keys, it will probably be seen as illegal in Bliz's eyes.

When your accout gets looted/deleted/stolen.. don't blame us for not warning you. Remove this .exe now, and change your account passwords from a different computer. I wouldn't feel safe now without a complete reformat.

You know, you should read the entire thread before replying.

Also, sup Gigglefart. ;)