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Nixi
07-07-2008, 01:37 AM
-Update July 22, 2008-
Prince Malchezaar Kill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIvT2n3nqqI

The Curator Kill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwb8oIf22yk

-Update July 20, 2008-
Shade of Aran kill:
[no sound]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YyCeUKfIUw

-Update July 11, 2008-
Terestian Illhoof kill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrMLYYdf5w



http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_070708_033230.jpg

Moroes down on the 2nd try of the evening!

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_070708_042329.jpg

Maiden down on the 2nd try!

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_070708_053737.jpg

After several attempts on this I finally buckled down and tweaked my Shaman earth shock macro to just hit Julianne. Before I was trying to hurry up and click on her then shock, but with the lag associated with /cast [target=focustarget] it just wasn't getting the job done. Plus my Shamans kept running outta mana, even with potions. I had to bust out 4 fire elementals to pull this one off.

Cleared to The Curator, but it was too late to try more than a couple times. I'm having DPS issues due to gear and spec. I was too lazy to take my shamans outta their PVP 40/21 spec and into 41/20.

SilverSlice
07-07-2008, 01:52 AM
WOW is the one word that comes to mind, major grats.
did you solo box all 10 chars. or where it two multiboxers that joined forces so to speak?


Silver

Tasty
07-07-2008, 01:58 AM
I'm interested to see if it was just you or two boxers as well, either way grats :D

Nixi
07-07-2008, 03:25 AM
That's just me behind all 10 toons.

Protection Paladin x 2
Fire Lock x 2
Elemental Shaman x 4
Fire Mage
Holy Priest

Bought a new PC yesterday and went directly to Karazhan after it was setup. Although the guy that came over to install the stuff couldn't get them networked. I think he had 0 experience using Vista, and he just gave up after4 hours. It was 11pm so I don't blame him, but it's irritating because I can't install Synergy/Kavoom.

My two 5 boxing PCs are more or less the same.

q6600 2.4 ghz
8800 GT Video Card
7200 RPM Hard drive
8 gig DDR800 Ram

One computer has a 19" that I use to control my main and a 22" in with 4 alts. The other PC only has one 22" where I put 4 clients up with Keyclone maximizer and the 5th client i just open windowed and stick it on top of them in the middle. I have no deskspace for a 4th monitor.

tzibo
07-07-2008, 03:58 AM
lol - nice one matey!

Props as well for doing this running two machines independently. I was back to db'ing two toons with seperate keyboards etc last night and that was a bit hectic when it all kicked off, so with 10 ... :D

You intending on controlling all 10 from one set of keyboard macros?

Otlecs
07-07-2008, 04:06 AM
That is absolutely awesome.

And inspiring.

Very well done :)

Nixi
07-07-2008, 04:54 AM
As soon as I successfully get the computers networked I'll install Synergy or Kavoom. I'm leaning toward Kavoom because it will probably be easier to setup. Any one use Kavoom before to control two machines with one keyboard and mouse?

I'm so glad I didn't get the big bad wolf opera event. It's hard using two keyboards/mice to control the 2nd group of toons. On the two big guardians before the elemntal/wyrm packs at the top of the tower going to the Curator, I had a hell of a time finding out who had the debuff and moving that toon, so I ended up just ignoring it and healing through it. I couldn't imagine trying to do the big bad wolf with 10 characters.

My x-keys pro and x-keys foot pedal just arrived a few minutes ago, so i'll need to set all my toons up again when i'm ready to use them. I'll probably wait until after the server resets because I really wanna push through Kara.

Wilbur
07-07-2008, 07:30 AM
you solo'ed Kara?

:-|

!!!!!

-silencer-
07-07-2008, 07:33 AM
My x-keys pro and x-keys foot pedal just arrived a few minutes ago, so i'll need to set all my toons up again when i'm ready to use them. I'll probably wait until after the server resets because I really wanna push through Kara.
Let me know how it goes with this combo, and if the pedal is worth the price. I've been seriously considering it - there's only so many buttons available without a quick finger reach, so it'd be nice to have a pedal for either shift/alt/ctrl modifier or as panic button macros.

This feat of 10-boxing Kara is badass. Some encounters are going to be very difficult due to positioning though. Shade and Prince come to mind..


Edit:
Man, that has got to be fun though.. I was starting to think I may be crazy dishing out $75/mo for 5.. I can't believe I'm actually starting to consider trying 10 for $150/mo. Like others have said.. there are more expensive hobbies on a monthly basis.. racing cars and oil painting comes to mind.

moog
07-07-2008, 07:36 AM
Any one use Kavoom before to control two machines with one keyboard and mouse?
I use KeyClone and KavoomKM with my humble 5-boxing (1+4) on 2 PCs.
I'm only using it for simple stuff like looting quest items, choosing flight destinations etc, I still use KeyClone to "play" :)

Kavoom is fantastic... simply move mouse off the right hand side of PC1 and the keyboard+mouse "move" over to PC2, completely seemlessly and with no lag on the other PC.
You can use hotkeys to switch but I've not bothered with that, myself.

If you've not tried it before, you can just install it and get about 30m of use before it times out requiring purchase, although you can just fire it up again to have another 30m... but I bought it as soon as it timed out the first time.

And you can add further PCs if you expand your empire :)

Havelcek
07-07-2008, 09:42 AM
Wow that is phenomenal...keep posting on your progress!

Kicksome
07-07-2008, 10:36 AM
Wow - that's awesome! Nice job. That has to be a first.

BobGnarly
07-07-2008, 10:46 AM
Very nice. I'm particularly impressed by moroes, that can't be an easy fight to 10box.

Curator and Illhoof seem doable once you get a feel for what you need to do. I'm very interested to see you work out Shade though. :)

BTW, you need to make a movie of these fights plzthx.

Marathon
07-07-2008, 10:49 AM
Defently make a movie of this !!!!

Drizzit
07-07-2008, 10:49 AM
Movie time

Nixi
07-07-2008, 11:53 AM
well, i don't have the software to make a movie. I won't buy fraps until I know i can edit the movies so i'll ask around at work to see if anyone can help me get started.

Anyway, I got off work and i'm continuing the fun....


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_070708_234625.jpg

One shotted him. Last night I wiped time and time again, but I respec'd my shamans and i'm using a better macro to hit the flares.

Drizzit
07-07-2008, 12:02 PM
well, i don't have the software to make a movie.

Just do print screen every second. I'll print them all out and flip through them like a flip book ...lol :P

raylion
07-07-2008, 12:17 PM
Argh...don't make these types of post!!! I already have 6 accounts and have often thought another 4 "won't hurt"...dammit, must resist the temptation ;-)

Grats in the 10 man effort though...very, very impressive!!!

Drizzit
07-07-2008, 12:22 PM
If you do complete it. try and make a vid for it so you can send to blizzard. You can post it on Blizzard forums. They might say something about you :thumbup:. Or send it to G4tv. They might even do an interview with you.

BobGnarly
07-07-2008, 12:22 PM
Windows Movie Maker isn't bad and it's free and comes with windows, so, MOVIES PLZTHX! :P

Nixi
07-07-2008, 12:23 PM
I found the world's hardest trash mobs. The damn mana feeders after The Curator. Took more than 10 minutes to kill 1 pack!!

At least my casters are gaining weapon skillz :pinch:

Drizzit
07-07-2008, 12:25 PM
Did you kill attument (the horse and guy)?

d0z3rr
07-07-2008, 12:25 PM
That's just me behind all 10 toons.


WOW, awesome man. If you could go into even more detail, please do!

Nixi
07-07-2008, 12:34 PM
Did you kill attument (the horse and guy)?

Yeah, but i didn't take screenshots of him this week. he was the only boss i killed last week. here is a screenie from then:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_062708_170811.jpg

Drizzit
07-07-2008, 12:36 PM
I hope that there are no ninjas in your group :thumbup:

Nixi
07-07-2008, 12:46 PM
Edit - Removed a low quality pic

Thulos
07-07-2008, 12:56 PM
Congratulations on achieving this feat. Please keep us updated and get us a movie asap! I'm sure you can get one of the gang from here to do the editing and sound if you just wanted to get the raw footage out. :thumbsup:

-silencer-
07-07-2008, 12:56 PM
well, i don't have the software to make a movie. I won't buy fraps until I know i can edit the movies so i'll ask around at work to see if anyone can help me get started.

I'm almost positive you can capture the video with fraps then export it to .bmp frames. Then you could import the series of frames to Adobe Premiere and do all the editing you can imagine.

Suvega
07-07-2008, 01:31 PM
Pretty good improvement over last week Nixi (with you skippin moress and getting maiden to 50%).

Do you have armory links for your characters? It seems they are in all blues, curious how geared your tank / healers are?

Drizzit
07-07-2008, 01:35 PM
It seems they are in all blues

Shit if you are in blues i have even more respect. After about a month or 2 you can probably have that place on farm because you will be better geared.

Ellay
07-07-2008, 01:43 PM
Amazing job! look forward to reading more!

d0z3rr
07-07-2008, 02:01 PM
well, i don't have the software to make a movie. I won't buy fraps until I know i can edit the movies so i'll ask around at work to see if anyone can help me get started.

Yep you'll definitely be able to edit the movies. Fraps saves the videos into an uncompressed AVI. The Fraps codec is installed when you install Fraps. I use Windows Movie Maker to edit the fraps AVI files, then save them as .wmv videos.

But I'd imagine any Adobe program is far more robust, and with more features for editing AVI's than WMM.

Xar
07-07-2008, 02:01 PM
Just WOW, so awesome!

Looks like the shammies are wearing pvp rep blues, the priest is wearing primal mooncloth set, the locks look like they have spellfire on.

LOL, I remember being in a heavy caster kara group one night and we *all* levelled our weapon skills that night. :)

Edit: Changed...so you mention fire locks, meaning your locks are wearing spellfire?

Drizzit
07-07-2008, 02:17 PM
you just need 15 more accounts to do a 25 main raid.

daviddoran
07-07-2008, 02:34 PM
You could do 25 mans, but with the next expansion making all the content available for 10 mans, I see no point other than better gear, and the best bragging rights ever.... More power to anyone who attempts a 25 man (but then it's just 15 more for 40 mans...)

Mac
07-07-2008, 02:58 PM
What you are doing is very inspiring for those of us that are interested in multi-boxing. Thank you for sharing.

Nixi
07-07-2008, 03:26 PM
Made it to Illhoof. Only wiped twice before getting to him. I wiped once on a bad pull while clearing the worms and elemental packs in Curator's room, and another wipe on mana feeders. I just ran past the spawn point and let them wipe me so I could just res instead of taking 12+ minutes to wittle them down.

Yeah about 6 of my toons have pretty gimp gear. 3 shamans 1 paladin and a warlock just hit 70 2 weeks ago so they are still in mostly blues (couple of greens still peaking through too). After reading some replys about my gear i forgot that i have 3 shamans sporting 2 piece healing pvp blue and 2 piece elemental dps blues to get the extra resilience bonus. I could have swapped some of that out to get a few more points of spell dmg. lol.

A big change from last week to this week was nabbing a few pieces of gear for my paladin and shamans. In the one pic above of my attuneman kill last week you can see the shamans are still sporting the staff quest reward from the Nagrand Ring of Blood. The past week i've been doing heroics and Battlegrounds hard core and managed to get them the S2 shield and S2 Hammer. That provided a huge boost to their spell dmg. My 2nd paladin was able to reach 10+k or so HP plus 490 defense too, something she didn't have last week when trying Moroes.

I was busy doing some RL stuff so I was just kinda playing and then going afk quite frequently. I tried Illhoof 2 times. Once I got him down to around 28% and the 2nd time only around 38 %. My shamans kept running outta mana. I got really lucky the first time and he never sacrified my priest until quite late into the battle. The 2nd attempt he sac'd her quite early and I was too slow saving her with my 2nd paladin. On both attempts I had both Fire locks (yep, mage and both locks are in full spellfire) using seed of corruption on illhoof and not doing DPS. this was a terrible idea in retrospect, my one warlock is my workhorse DPS and having her do SOC really cut down on my raid's DPS. Although on both attempts I didn't have to worry about imps :P . I think I'll do a castsequence like, /castsequence Immolate,Incinerate,Life Tap,Seed of Corruption,Life Tap and just have both of them fire at illhoof directly and ignore chains. I had to stop dps frequently to lifetap because SOC takes tons of mana.

I'm 99% sure I can take him out next week. I'm just really worried about the opera event.. i got so lucky getting Romulo and Julianne.

Thanks for the support guys! I'll try to figure out how to get a video out soon!

badashh
07-07-2008, 04:19 PM
you should add a line in your targeting macros to target the deamon chains first, then assist your tank. That should help out your survival. Maybe even drop your mage where the imps spawn and do some arcane explosions to clear them if they are getting out of hand.

Fleecy
07-07-2008, 04:44 PM
Jesus man! Major props for SOLOing Kara.

I'm with everyone else, I'd love to see a video of this.

Ellay
07-07-2008, 05:13 PM
Keep gearing them out via badges and BG's and you won't worry too much on the opera event, with enough DPS as it looks like your makeup is full of DPS :) you can brute force down some of the encounters.

succulent
07-07-2008, 05:41 PM
This is pretty awesome. I was planning on 5-boxing up to attumen once I get my shammies geared up -- I probably can't down him with this setup but I can pretty easily get a tank/healer off my friends list, and I think we could probably clear the place. Shade should be ez mode with 5 earth shocks on rotation. Even if I can't get to Attumen solo I don't mind clearing some trash every once in a while to get rep rings, and maybe that nature damage trash drop ring.

But 10-boxing the whole place on your own? That is a l33t ubergeek in action ;)

One note on the movie making; the Mac version of WoW has movie capture built in, works really well. Just sayin'.

Suvega
07-07-2008, 06:17 PM
ARMORY LINKS DO EET.


Also, since I'm kinda jealous -> VIDS OR IT DI-ENT HAPPEN. (yeh I said it).

Groovy
07-07-2008, 06:47 PM
That is freakin fabulous! Muchos grats!

Vyndree
07-07-2008, 07:25 PM
I have to agree -- I'd really like to see your armories, especially the Pally tanks and the healers.

From what I know of my time multiboxing Kara, my pally was wearing those same blue shoulders and inferior weapon/shield (SSO wasn't even out yet)... but our healers vastly outgeared what looks like a primal mooncloth priest... and our DPS had a few PvP pieces as well. I recognized the Ring of Blood weapons and I just can't add up how these characters -- even SINGLE boxed -- would be able to complete much of Karazhan with the level of gear in the screenshots.

Mad props in any case.

TheElles
07-07-2008, 07:40 PM
Major grats, it's inspiring me to hury up and level my girls so Fleecy and I can do it.

Jaws5
07-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Off the charts . outstanding effort. I will never complain again. hmmmmm need more pcs and accounts

:)

Nixi
07-08-2008, 01:22 AM
I play Chinese Wow

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_070808_131945.jpg

I'm not on the armory because they don't have the service at www.wowchina.com as far as I know. It's been months since I've asked around, so later I'll ask one of my friends that plays.

I used to play on US servers (after all I am from the US) but 700-1000 pings were brutal. Plus the Chinese gov would randomly block access to various foriegn internet sites/games and sometimes I just couldn't log in to play. One of the reasons I started this 10 man raid was because it was really hard to solo play in some raids. I just don't speak fluent Chinese.

Vyndree
07-08-2008, 01:26 AM
Ick, ya I can't see how I'd type those characters into the armory. >.<

Damn, can you at least post some stats for your tank/healer?

Nixi
07-08-2008, 01:27 AM
Late for work, I'll post more detailed info in a couple hours!

Nixi
07-08-2008, 02:08 AM
Hey hey! I AM on the armory!


Priest:
http://cn.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Archimonde&n=Rixi

Guild Absolute Power:
http://cn.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Archimonde&n=Absolute+Power&p=1


Tank [he is NOT in my guild, he's in another guild in case I actualy feel like socializing]:
http://cn.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Archimonde&n=Nixi

SilverSlice
07-08-2008, 02:14 AM
sweet progress in kara can hardly belive someone have multiboxed there way so far into kara on there own :)
when you posted the chinese wow, after the "power guild and cant find your armoury" post, i loled so hard i spiled a bite of coffee trougth my nose :thumbsup:

please post some vids, i would love to watch those

Silver

Nixi
07-08-2008, 02:15 AM
I didn't consider Chinese WoW.

Whats the story with that?

Long story short: I went to Hong Kong on a study abroad in 2004 and I moved to Mainland in 2005. Been here ever since. Just shy of 4 years total. I finished college while still in China. When I was in the US I played Everquest back in.... 01? I had a friend that moved on to WOW when it was released and told me how great it was but i stayed away because I wante to graduate college. When I got to China it was so popular. Coke and WOW had billboards and every internet cafe had people playing. So i just thought, "hey, maybe if i played Chinese wow my Chinese will improve!" Haha, i can say warlock and mage in Chinese but it hasn't helped much for daily life. lol

Yamio
07-08-2008, 02:21 AM
Nixi, you are my new hero!

/SALUTE

Vyndree
07-08-2008, 02:29 AM
Haha, i can say warlock and mage in Chinese but it hasn't helped much for daily life.

We have a group from China helping out with some of our testing for our products.

We do an "exchange" every once in a while to meet the folks and show them how we work and they show us how they work. During one of the guys' last days he told me he played WoW.

You should've seen how long it took us to figure out what classes we each played. He mentioned "Necropolis" and when I listed "Warrior? Priest? Mage? Warlock?" he seemed to like the warlock. So I'm assuming he was an undead warlock. Or, at least, just a warlock.

Xar
07-08-2008, 03:10 AM
Haha, i can say warlock and mage in Chinese but it hasn't helped much for daily life.

We have a group from China helping out with some of our testing for our products.

We do an "exchange" every once in a while to meet the folks and show them how we work and they show us how they work. During one of the guys' last days he told me he played WoW.

You should've seen how long it took us to figure out what classes we each played. He mentioned "Necropolis" and when I listed "Warrior? Priest? Mage? Warlock?" he seemed to like the warlock. So I'm assuming he was an undead warlock. Or, at least, just a warlock.The Chinese are not allowed to have real undead models:
http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/03/the9-changes-wow-in-china-to-appease-censors/

(Edit: LOL, I have to stop posting late at night. I meant to say maybe he was liking the real undead model and is why I posted that link :) )

Thanks for answering my question Nixi about the spellfire on your locks. :)

Nixi
07-08-2008, 04:21 AM
And here are the corpses. I remember when they first changed these models.. it was back around the 1.8 Naxx patch.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_070808_161607.jpg

Nixi
07-08-2008, 04:32 AM
Even if I can't get to Attumen solo I don't mind clearing some trash every once in a while to get rep rings, and maybe that nature damage trash drop ring.

I made it to Attunmen and Moroes with my 5 box PVE crew. Of course I couldn't kill either of them. :P

Vyndree
07-08-2008, 04:53 PM
Hey hey! I AM on the armory!


Priest:
http://cn.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Archimonde&n=Rixi

Guild Absolute Power:
http://cn.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Archimonde&n=Absolute+Power&p=1


Tank [he is NOT in my guild, he's in another guild in case I actualy feel like socializing]:
http://cn.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Archimonde&n=Nixi

By the way, I finally had a chance to look at your priest/tank.

The tank definitely has better gear than mine -- though you should think about upgrading those shoulders. ;) I saw the blue shoulders and went "wtf?" but in reality the rest are purples and some of that badge gear (legs especially) is hawt. You should be getting close to being able to tank Moroes + all the adds at this point, right? Try making a warlock spam searing pain to get them on 2nd aggro, and use BoSac on the 2nd on aggro to pop your tank out of the garotte.

The priest is geared appropriately for Kara, even though she also has some blues... Our healers were a bit overgeared but it made up for the major undergeared-ness of our tanks.

I still have to check out your dps's armories but I'm supposed to be working, so... >.<

Nixi
07-08-2008, 05:09 PM
Those shoulders have been haunting me forever! I don't really do Seth Halls that much to get the purple shoulders from there, and besides netherspite, I can't think of any other purple shoulders I might have a chance in hell of obtaining. The blue shoulders of the righteous FINALLY dropped for me the other day but I gave them to my 2nd paladin in order to get her to 490 defense. Badge gear doesn't have any tanking shoulders, and the PVP shoulders aren't good for tanking either.

I just got done finished running kara for the night. I one shotted Atuneman, two shotted Moroes, and one shotted the Maiden. The maiden fight was ugly becaues i forgot to use my /castrandom grounding totem,lightning bolt macro. 3 of my guys died at the beginning, i ended up taking her down with 6 guys alive but it took over 9 minutes.

The opera event was big bad wolf. I was dreading that but it was easier than Romulo and Jullianne. I just used Ellays advice and killed him with brute force. The first attempt was pretty ugly, my warlocks pulled agro. My 2nd try was better, I got him down to 1% before finally wiping. The 3rd try I waited for all cooldowns to come back and just went all out DPS. When he turned a toon to little red i just let him kill the guy and kept chugging spells. The fear sucked, but i had grounding totems down. I still had to reface toons though.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_070908_040130.jpg

Gonna keep on going tomorrow or the next day. :)

Ellay
07-08-2008, 07:17 PM
Awesome work! the rest of Karazhan is going to be pretty brutal 10 boxing though. Chess event should be doable, and possibly the final boss. Netherspite and Aran will be a PITA.

Drizzit
07-09-2008, 09:19 AM
I just got done finished running kara for the night. I one shotted Atuneman, two shotted Moroes, and one shotted the Maiden. The maiden fight was ugly becaues i forgot to use my /castrandom grounding totem,lightning bolt macro. 3 of my guys died at the beginning, i ended up taking her down with 6 guys alive but it took over 9 minutes.

GREAT JOB :thumbsup:

Memn
07-09-2008, 09:48 AM
Wow, awesome work Nixi...

/em fights the urge to fire up 4 more accounts...

Catamer
07-09-2008, 10:09 AM
10x boxing... I'm not worthy!

not sure why you are only a trainee on this website :P

-silencer-
07-09-2008, 10:25 AM
not sure why you are only a trainee on this website :P
It's just based on post count.

Nixi
07-09-2008, 04:51 PM
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_071008_044450.jpg

Wow, that was a hard ass fight. I wiped like 7 or more times and I respected my tank to Holy. To be honest it was more of an equipment problem than anything. I could avoid the arcane explosion really easily, the flame wreath was blood lust DPS time, but the Blizzard... i just had to take the dmg.

When I killed him I only had 3 guys standing. But he's dead. :)

Kinda upset that he dropped a hunter helmet and a dps neck. ;(

-silencer-
07-09-2008, 05:02 PM
Damn.. now that's impressive. Next to Netherspite & the infenals at Prince, that was probably the 3rd hardest fight in Kara due to the movement..

Bradster
07-09-2008, 05:07 PM
Amazing job, You've raised the bar for us all, that's just amazing work. Congrats mate.

Nixi
07-09-2008, 05:42 PM
Thanks so much for the support!

I had to try the Chess event twice.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_071008_054013.jpg

On my way to the prince.

Mac
07-09-2008, 05:51 PM
I'll be interested in how you do prince. I used to tank him on the far wall where a notch was on the far corner from the entrance, and the raid would stand on the far wall near the building, we had a really low chance of getting infernals that would interfere that way. Then , a couple patches ago, it all changed and when we tried it , we would get infernals that would drop right on my spot, and the raids spot. It seems blizz wants it to be a fight where you need to move the raid around. However, we were able to do basically the same thing at the door. Raid stands in the door, tank on the wall just down from the door, seems like a perfect multi-box set up where all your dps is ranged from the door, we hardly ever got infernals there, so it might be worth a shot starting from there. PS, good luck, I know as far as infernals go, you'll need it. Doubt you will need it skill wise, looks like you have that under control :)

Ryan
07-09-2008, 06:38 PM
Couple questions on Aran I'm curious about. Did you interrupt his spell casts at all? If so, did you have a special rotation or something to do it, or do you do what I do when I three box the fight and simply spam Earthshock and assume that one of your shamans is between casts at the moment? (That works a lot better than I expected it to) Also, how did you avoid his AOE CS. I have a problem where I'm the highest aggro in my raid when I have all three of my shamans together, so he occasionally will run over to melee me when he's locked out of schools (or even when he's not sometimes. Or at least I don't think he is) and I have to move my whole group and turn them again to face him.

One last thing, have you ever had one of your characters set off the flame wreath while not moving? I had that happen once, while they were on follow, but all three of us had stopped moving long before the flame wreath casted, and it still set it off somehow. So I have taken to just tapping my formation key just enough to break follow and I haven't seen the problem recur since. Or it could have just been a fluke I suppose.

Nixi
07-09-2008, 06:47 PM
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_071008_064409.jpg

Everyone at the door and the tank just up past the notch. It took several tries but when he went down it was smooth as silk. Had a few bad infernal tries, and then I had a few brainfarts where I didn't keep my tank healed well enough. Overall MUCH easier than Aran.

Nixi
07-09-2008, 06:54 PM
Couple questions on Aran I'm curious about. Did you interrupt his spell casts at all? If so, did you have a special rotation or something to do it, or do you do what I do when I three box the fight and simply spam Earthshock and assume that one of your shamans is between casts at the moment? (That works a lot better than I expected it to) Also, how did you avoid his AOE CS. I have a problem where I'm the highest aggro in my raid when I have all three of my shamans together, so he occasionally will run over to melee me when he's locked out of schools (or even when he's not sometimes. Or at least I don't think he is) and I have to move my whole group and turn them again to face him.

One last thing, have you ever had one of your characters set off the flame wreath while not moving? I had that happen once, while they were on follow, but all three of us had stopped moving long before the flame wreath casted, and it still set it off somehow. So I have taken to just tapping my formation key just enough to break follow and I haven't seen the problem recur since. Or it could have just been a fluke I suppose.

a. I went in to the fight with full intentions on interupting everything but the arcane missles, but I didn't interupt too many casts. I kept his life lower than his mana for much of the fight using blood lust, but close to the end he did drink and I had 5 guys left. I had already killed the elementals by the time he drank though. The pyro killed one of my dudes, and then i soulstone res'd my priest, and then my paladin died after resing the priest, at the end i only had 3 guys standing.

b. My priest ate the AOE CS and i wiped a few times becaues of it. I kept my guys pretty far back from him, i didn't earthshock too many spells unless he came close to me.

c. A long time ago while 2 or 3 boxing him i stopped well within time when he started to cast flame wreath, but i didn't notice one of my guys got caught in the last little bit of his blizzard and was slowly catching up. We blew up, and it's the only time i had that happen. He could frostbolt your followers and something similar could have happened.

In short:
The arcane explosion I used mass dispel. The blizzard I just stood there and healed through it. The flame wreath I used blood lust. I didn't bother to interupt his spells. I killed the elementals. He did drink and killed one of my guys with a pyro.

Vyndree
07-09-2008, 07:01 PM
c. A long time ago while 2 or 3 boxing him i stopped well within time when he started to cast flame wreath, but i didn't notice one of my guys got caught in the last little bit of his blizzard and was slowly catching up. We blew up, and it's the only time i had that happen. He could frostbolt your followers and something similar could have happened.

Tapping the spread out macro before Aran completes casting Flame Wreath would probably help here. Just don't tap it after the flame wreath is on the ground ;)

Mac
07-09-2008, 07:23 PM
awesome! :thumbup:

Nixi
07-10-2008, 05:23 PM
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/emrys2/WoWScrnShot_071108_035430.jpg

My 4 shamans and mage used:

/target Terestian
/target Demon
/cast [spell]


My Warlocks used:

/castsequence [target=focustarget,exists,nodead,harm] reset=combat/4/target Curse of the Elements,Immolate,Incinerate,Life Tap,Seed of Corruption,Life Tap


Then it was just a matter of keeping everyone alive with my priest. I have a 4 gig video that I need to figure out how to compress. My Windows movie maker is in Chinese so I'm gonna have to find help. hehe.

I also have a 1.5 gig video of me wiping on Nightbane after getting him to 60%.

When I figure out how to compress and host them I'll share'm.

badashh
07-10-2008, 05:43 PM
/bow

Very impressive

Make sure to loot all your badges!!

Vyndree
07-10-2008, 05:59 PM
/target Terestian
/target Demon
/cast [spell]

You just left the imp? Kil'rek or whatever?

Ryan
07-10-2008, 05:59 PM
Haha, this is all awesome. This makes me want to move up from just my three.

Nixi
07-10-2008, 06:09 PM
You just left the imp? Kil'rek or whatever?

Yeah I didn't go after him at all. After Illhoof died he was still left and I was trying to blow him up but only my warlocks were casting. My mage and shaman were still targeting the dead Illhoof. haha.

Next week I might try to kill him but I'm not really sure if the dmg boost is worth using the mana.

Bellicus
07-10-2008, 07:54 PM
Massive congrats on 10-boxing Kara! I just started 5-boxing last week and your progress is a massive inspiration to get my toons up to 70! :thumbsup:

Keep up the good work! Look forward to the vids!

Groovy
07-10-2008, 08:25 PM
This right here makes me want to 10 box... You,sir, inspire me! Grats!

Nixi
07-11-2008, 04:01 AM
This one is 40 meg at 1.4Mbps. With music!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrMLYYdf5w

Is there anyway to make it look better? My first video was 25 meg at 869 bps, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqUC2PjhGlE

and I think the quality is pretty much the same.

Any advice on getting a higher quality video online is much appreciated.

Malt
07-11-2008, 05:39 AM
This post is inspiring.

Kyudo
07-11-2008, 05:57 AM
The bar is raised once again.

Major props to you Nixi.

Gz

-silencer-
07-11-2008, 07:33 AM
This one is 40 meg at 1.4Mbps. With music!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrMLYYdf5w


Music lyrics:
"If you ever need me, I'll be here, on /follow."
LOL.. PERFECT soundtrack for multiboxing.

dRiN
07-11-2008, 08:26 AM
How could I have missed this post earlier on! What an amazing accomplishment!

Gratz gratz gratz gratz!

Please stop so you don't make me buy 5 more :D

Los
07-11-2008, 09:30 AM
try out www.vimeo.com! awesom quality over there!

for the rest, I bow to you my master :)

Mac
07-11-2008, 04:40 PM
awesome, just awesome seeing it in action. u da man :thumbup:

I really want to try this myself now :D

Edit: I had the sound off the first time, that music selection cracked me up too :D

Tamu
07-12-2008, 05:24 PM
Great job Nixi! Grats!!

Nixi
07-14-2008, 02:44 AM
Thanks so much for all the positive comments and support guys!

Yesterday I went into Zul'Aman feeling good about buying my newb Paladin the badge tanking pants. I still had her spec'd holy for the trash, and my shamans were still in a 40/21 PVP build. I just wanted to get a feel for the trash mobs before I went off respecing. The Zul'Aman trash is significantly harder than Karazhan, but I managed to just use one tank holding everything clear up to the bear boss. There is a 4 pull right before him, two guys on the bears and two axe throwers. It was too much trying to tank all 4, so after a few wipes I tried to sheep one. In Zul'Aman sheep doesn't hold very long at all, and since I didn't feel like micromanaging sheep I just took my mage outta DPS duty and had her do straight sheeps on one of the axe throwers. It worked. So with my paladin holding agro on 3 mobs and my mage sheeping one I cleared to the first boss.

I respec'd my paladin for the boss. I forgot you can't summon people inside zul'aman so my whole raid went frolicking to the meeting stone. It's kind of fun having a whole raid behind you. I ran into some Alliance on the steps and wasted them. haha. When I summoned my litle pally back i was ready. Basically this guy was ALOT harder than I thought he would be. I didn't have my guys spread out far enough on the first try so when he'd do his random charge he'd hit like 3 and send them flying. The dmg was too much for one healer and the positioning mini-game was just getting too tiring. I tried him repeatedly until the trash respawned. I never really did much dmg to him. My newb paladin would just get owned too fast. I think she's just sitting at 11k hp unbuffed.

I think this guy is doable, just need to gear up more.

Zoroaster
07-14-2008, 07:45 AM
First of all, big congratz on getting as far as you have in Kara. Especially with the level of gear some of your toons have.

Going to have issues in ZA with your current tank/healer setup. I'm sure you have some pretty insane DPS, but most of those encounters require 2 healers, and 2 tanks...

Sure got me thinking about what type of setup I would use for 10-boxing. Would need some more PCs though, current setup can't handle it :(


Edit - Was thinking about trying this a while back, and this post reminded me. Most weeks I do Kara on at least some of my toons, but not this week! I'm a bit better geared then you average Kara group, so was able to 5-man Attumen, give me a mount!

http://justcrusade.org/gallery/294_14_07_08_8_59_11.jpg

Marathon
07-14-2008, 09:30 AM
Thanks so much for all the positive comments and support guys!

Major Gratz Man !!!!!

Would love to see a really long video of you doing Kara :thumbsup:

Los
07-14-2008, 12:57 PM
bear bitch hits hard idd, specially in his bear fase, 11k hp is low even for a pally, when you get that up with some t4 and badge loot you would be ready to hit it for sure!

Talamarr
07-14-2008, 01:12 PM
I would try the Eagle boss first. When/if you are able to start doing timed runs for bear mounts, you'll want to do Eagle -> Bear -> Dragonhawk -> Lynx anyway.

Eagle boss is more of a DPS race; Bear boss is a tank check. I've had the nost luck with me (paladin tank) tanking bear boss in normal form and Druid tank taking bear phase.

If your DPS is your strength, try Eagle boss.

Korruptor
07-14-2008, 01:43 PM
Gratz again on this feat!

merujo
07-14-2008, 02:34 PM
GZ :)

bugilt
07-14-2008, 02:58 PM
Omg hacks.

Lyonheart
07-14-2008, 05:27 PM
I might end up going with 10 acnts as well.. GAH !! why did i ever come to this site!?!?!?

Anyways. I have 9 70s now..( on 7 acnts..yes..all mine! )I would add another tank. I have 4 shaman..one paly..two hunters..one mage and one priest. Should i level my 36 warrior.. or my druid? i like the idea of the druid for the added buffage.




The Power of 10! ( coming soon )

Ellay
07-14-2008, 07:08 PM
Your progress got the attention of front page MMO-Champion.com, WoW Insider and I also put it up on GameRiot :) congrats again.

simpletom
07-15-2008, 04:34 AM
very impressive, and considering your gear its even more amazing, props mate this is truely an amazing feat

Drizzit
07-15-2008, 09:24 AM
You just left the imp? Kil'rek or whatever?

Yeah I didn't go after him at all. After Illhoof died he was still left and I was trying to blow him up but only my warlocks were casting. My mage and shaman were still targeting the dead Illhoof. haha.

Next week I might try to kill him but I'm not really sure if the dmg boost is worth using the mana.Try having your locks doing seed on illhoof. With you locks seeding you should till the big imps and little imps.

Tdog
07-15-2008, 11:26 AM
LOL anyone else notice how this thread's views went from like 2kish to over 26kish from yesterday morning?

homerjunior
07-15-2008, 11:32 AM
LOL anyone else notice how this thread's views went from like 2kish to over 26kish from yesterday morning?Publicity FTW?

Talamarr
07-15-2008, 11:33 AM
LOL anyone else notice how this thread's views went from like 2kish to over 26kish from yesterday morning?Publicity FTW?

Hi Mom. /wave Send money; multi-boxing is expensive!!

Nixi
07-15-2008, 12:26 PM
Your progress got the attention of front page MMO-Champion.com, WoW Insider and I also put it up on GameRiot congrats again.

Thanks so much for posting this over there!

I never saw the article on WoW insider, did they take it down?


LOL anyone else notice how this thread's views went from like 2kish to over 26kish from yesterday morning?

Yeah I about fell over when I woke up this morning to read the forums. The video also skyrocketed from 1000 to almost 90,000 views too.


Hi Mom. /wave Send money; multi-boxing is expensive!!

Lol, I'm happy to share my stories with my mom. She even shipped me my x-keys.

/waves Love you mom!


Can't wait to give kara another shot and record all the boss kills. Hopefully I can find time before the weekend. :)

Drizzit
07-15-2008, 12:38 PM
/waves Love you mom!

at the end of the vid you should have all your toon wave and say that or "send money"...lol

Vyndree
07-15-2008, 05:12 PM
bear bitch hits hard idd, specially in his bear fase, 11k hp is low even for a pally, when you get that up with some t4 and badge loot you would be ready to hit it for sure!

This.

Suvega and I can clear Kara except for Netherspite/Nightbane, but the things holding us back at this point is our tanks' gear. DPS can gear up from arenas/bgs, but you can't say the same for tanks. They literally have to raid/badge grind the whole way up.

Tank gear is always the bottleneck for raid progression. Netherspite was a gear check. Prince was a gear check. Bear boss is a gear check.

Sanctume
07-15-2008, 05:37 PM
S2 Gavel > Continuum Blade.
If you got your shamans their weapon and shield, you can get your pally the gavel.

Im still wearing the blue Righteous Shoulders on my pally tank. When the shoulder drop off Netherspite 2 weeks ago, some 8 year old warrior (literal noob) rolled need on it. I forgot to set it back to masterloot, so an 8 year old pwned me. :(

Grats on the 10-man, very inspiring.

I think the reason Attumen can't be 5-man by Pally + 4Shamans is there needs to be a decurse in the encounter.

Sanctume
07-15-2008, 05:43 PM
I agree with the rarity of the tanking shoulders for pally :(


The opera event was big bad wolf. I was dreading that but it was easier than Romulo and Jullianne. I just used Ellays advice and killed him with brute force. The first attempt was pretty ugly, my warlocks pulled agro. My 2nd try was better, I got him down to 1% before finally wiping. The 3rd try I waited for all cooldowns to come back and just went all out DPS. When he turned a toon to little red i just let him kill the guy and kept chugging spells. The fear sucked, but i had grounding totems down. I still had to reface toons though.

2x Blessing of Protection should help buy you time.
/cast [target=targettarget,help] Blessing of Protection. :)

Sanctume
07-15-2008, 05:49 PM
Thanks so much for all the positive comments and support guys!

Yesterday I went into Zul'Aman feeling good about buying my newb Paladin the badge tanking pants. I still had her spec'd holy for the trash, and my shamans were still in a 40/21 PVP build. I just wanted to get a feel for the trash mobs before I went off respecing. The Zul'Aman trash is significantly harder than Karazhan, but I managed to just use one tank holding everything clear up to the bear boss. There is a 4 pull right before him, two guys on the bears and two axe throwers. It was too much trying to tank all 4, so after a few wipes I tried to sheep one. In Zul'Aman sheep doesn't hold very long at all, and since I didn't feel like micromanaging sheep I just took my mage outta DPS duty and had her do straight sheeps on one of the axe throwers. It worked. So with my paladin holding agro on 3 mobs and my mage sheeping one I cleared to the first boss.

I respec'd my paladin for the boss. I forgot you can't summon people inside zul'aman so my whole raid went frolicking to the meeting stone. It's kind of fun having a whole raid behind you. I ran into some Alliance on the steps and wasted them. haha. When I summoned my litle pally back i was ready. Basically this guy was ALOT harder than I thought he would be. I didn't have my guys spread out far enough on the first try so when he'd do his random charge he'd hit like 3 and send them flying. The dmg was too much for one healer and the positioning mini-game was just getting too tiring. I tried him repeatedly until the trash respawned. I never really did much dmg to him. My newb paladin would just get owned too fast. I think she's just sitting at 11k hp unbuffed.

I think this guy is doable, just need to gear up more.Holy nuts, nice job clearing to the bear boss. I had to re-gem and re-enchant my Paladin from avoidance to Stamina/Armor for ZA.

The 2 bears next to each other gives each other buffs, or a debuff on the tank, so they are fought apart.

Sheep is still good to control the adds. /cast [target=focus] Polymorph spammed every few cycles should to it.

The bear boss is just positioning and landing taunt. With 2 paladins, the "gamble" part is landing the taunt which is based on "melee to hit" 5.

Amplify magic on everyone helps too.

Mercurio
07-15-2008, 09:52 PM
I've been tracking this post since it first showed up and like many of you, it really has me thinking. First, big congrats Nixi, you are about to single-handedly increase Blizzard's subscribers by a million as a bunch of "me-too-ers" purchase five more (or nine more) accounts and attempt to duplicate your accomplishment.

The really tempting thing for me is that I'm just so well set up to do this. I have 13 level 70s on my accounts, almost all of them are in Kara gear or better (mainly due to months of arena losses and the freepurple gear), and have another 5 at level 62.5. Surely with 18 70s I could come up with any class combo that would possibly be needed to do 10-mans.

I really should hold off till I see how many 10-mans will be in WotLK.... shouldn't I?

Knytestorme
07-15-2008, 10:47 PM
I really should hold off till I see how many 10-mans will be in WotLK.... shouldn't I?



According to WoWWiki ('http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King') there are currently 6


The Nexus
Gundrak
Chamber of the Aspects
Ulduar
Icecrown Citadel
Naxxramas
Should be enough content there for someone to 10-box to make it worthwhile

Chrysanthe
07-15-2008, 11:51 PM
Very nice indeed /jealous

I'm looking forward to do Kara myself :D (five-boxing + a tank/healer group perhaps)

Tasty
07-16-2008, 12:12 AM
/jealous Same. The good kind of jealous mind you :P

Flauwy
07-16-2008, 04:37 AM
Impressive piece of work. Coming up with a whole 10-person-raid, so many different classes and the skill to controll all of them to clear Karazhan is top-notch. I would love to see a high quality video on vimeo soon. :thumbsup:

Grabmill
07-16-2008, 08:11 AM
Hey Nixi,

Great job! I never did any dual-boxing myself, but it sounds really awesome.

Some things that might help you perhaps:

Spec your second paladin into (improved) Sanctity Aura for a HUGE threat boost for your tank (you'll have to put them in the same group though). You said a few times that threat was an issue for your warlock, so this could help you a lot. A possible talent build would be:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tIx0dMgoxVfx0bcz
But there's a lot of room for change. I don't think you really need Precision on your offtank (although for the bear boss in ZA it's a great asset). Furthermore, I don't know if you use judgements, but the Improved Seal of the Crusader will add a lot of damage for all your casters as well.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Nixi
07-16-2008, 09:52 AM
S2 Gavel > Continuum Blade.

Did I mention earlier in the post I'm lazy? Lol if i didn't i'll have to make a point to say it. The first night i wiped over and over at curator it's because i was too lazy to port my shamans back to respec. Distributing all 41 talent points 4 times wasn't something I felt like doing that late at night. Then on my first several attempts at Romulo and Jul I never bothered to change my earthshock macro until i wiped like 6+ times.

I'm kind of focusing on two tasks right now and they are taking lots of time away from each other. My 10 man raid and my 4 sm Arena team. Lately I've just been spending most of my grinding hours on the shamans getting honor and equipment. THey went from less than 400 spell dmg a couple weeks ago to 700+. When I have downtime at the office I can manage to sneak in some game time, but I can only open 4 accounts. I feel like I should maximize my free time by playing all 4 accounts and just using the shamans. The past weeknd I was like, "i NEED to get the s2 mace for my paladins, so i just took 6 toons into the battlerounds. I got ALOT of hate for hogging that much man-power on the team and we lost quite a bit. My shamans were sturdier, and they killed alot, but what was killing us was my mobility with that many guys. I know, i should just take the two pallys and find a big ass warrior to heal.


I think the reason Attumen can't be 5-man by Pally + 4Shamans is there needs to be a decurse in the encounter.

I'm too lazy to decurse when I 10 man it. :P


2x Blessing of Protection should help buy you time.
/cast [target=targettarget,help] Blessing of Protection.

I actually use BOP quite a lot when I 5 man. I have a slightly more robust macro that includes a mouseover and there was a post on these forums awhile back about adding [target=targettarget,help,raid] in there so that you won't BOP yourself. Even with that in there for some strange reason I still BOP myself just as much as the guys that need it. When I 5 box I only use a small percentage of each classes utility, when I 10 box I use even less. A lot of the reason is limited key space. I did buy an x-keys, and I spent 3-4 hours trying to set up a configuration, but the next time I fired up the raid group I scrapped it after feeling really strange using it. I haven't given myself a chance to get used to it. But when I was setting it up I was like, "okay, gonna use everything everyone has got!" and I -easily- ran outta button space.





Spec your second paladin into (improved) Sanctity Aura for a HUGE threat boost for your tank (you'll have to put them in the same group though). You said a few times that threat was an issue for your warlock, so this could help you a lot. A possible talent build would be:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tIx0dMgoxVfx0bcz
But there's a lot of room for change. I don't think you really need Precision on your offtank (although for the bear boss in ZA it's a great asset). Furthermore, I don't know if you use judgements, but the Improved Seal of the Crusader will add a lot of damage for all your casters as well.

This sounds like some really good advice. Tbh I don't know how to solo any of my characters with the exception of my Shaman and Warrior. The warrior isn't even on the Multi-boxing radar anymore once I leveled my first paladin up to replace her. 10 toons is just too much to care about and I just get too lazy to do the micromanaging each one requires. I mean, I can't tell you much about half the talent trees that my guys can spec into. Plus just keeping the mana-potion injectors, mad alch potions (all consumables) is a task in and of itself. Not to mention the transmutes, cloth, etc. *dizzy*

Lately to cool the threat of my lead lock I just keep her imp out instead of sac'ing it and i'm hitting the soulshatter more liberally (as opposed to staring at omen I'll just mash it when i feel she's getting hot.) .It's worked out pretty well.

I didn't even scratch the bear boss. I just found it so difficult to pull him. When i was playing the encounter over in my head I was like "damn this should be easy. it's just tank and spank". But from the get-go he's hitting my tanks so damn hard and when he charges I have to play the 'spin the pally around game'. I have another plan to take him out, i'm gonna try it after I do Kara and post videos for those bosses, so I don't think i'll get another chance to do him for a few days.



Again I really appreciate all the congratulations and positive comments. :)

Drizzit
07-16-2008, 10:22 AM
so i just took 6 toons into the battlerounds

why don't you take your 10 to wsg and just sit there. when they kill you don't rez at the healer just run away from the rez (so they can't camp you) no one will report you afk and the battle will only be like 5 mins long. Would that work?

Nixi
07-16-2008, 10:29 AM
why don't you take your 10 to wsg and just sit there. when they kill you don't rez at the healer just run away from the rez (so they can't camp you) no one will report you afk and the battle will only be like 5 mins long. Would that work?

Lol, i might give it a go.

Another reason I haven't done much 5+ in the Bg's is because my internet connection seems to get unstable running that many toons. Battlegrounds in particular are prone to my guys disconnecting. I'm thinking about getting another phone line so I can have two adsl lines, but I'm not sure if that's really the source of the problem. I have a small suspicion it's my network and they way they are hooked up to the internet.

I had also thought about trying to hold the other teams flag and try to 'one shot' their guys as they try to steal it.

Mercurio
07-16-2008, 10:38 AM
why don't you take your 10 to wsg and just sit there. when they kill you don't rez at the healer just run away from the rez (so they can't camp you) no one will report you afk and the battle will only be like 5 mins long. Would that work?

That was actually one of the things in my mind pushing me towards getting a few more accounts and 10-boxing. In WSG I would obviously fail in, but it would be a quick 10 marks. Right now with my 5-man team it is a fail too, but it fails 5 "real-life" players too so I don't feel comfortable doing it. Oh, and I wouldn't just sit there, as that is against the Blizzard TOS, but even with me trying with a 10-man tank moving around as one it wouldn't take long to lose the BG.

AV wouldn't be bad at all if I make sure my 10 guys were all in groups supposed to rush the RH. I could probably solo Drek with a 10-man set-up once the towers were capped.

Think I'd still have to 5-man EOTS and AB though, 10-manning would be an insta-lose for too many other folks - I'd feel bad.

Getting 5 X the honor when 5 boxing has made the BGs doable for me now - I never really could stand to do them single-boxing (way, way too little gain for the time invested), but I kind of drool at getting 10 X the benefit at once, at least in two of the BGs.

homerjunior
07-16-2008, 11:08 AM
Purposely losing a BG is agaisnt the ToS you lose your marks/honor

Suvega
07-16-2008, 02:30 PM
Correct non-participation is bad mm'kay.

However, if you are just superbly incompentent, and happen to lose ALOT while playing, that is fine.
Intent is a hard thing to prove, or SO I HEAR ;). Either way if you're hte only 10, then no one can report you. It's kinda a "tree in the forest falls..." situation.

They action non-participation because you are hurting people other then yourself. If you are the only 10 people in there.... then?

Vyndree
07-16-2008, 02:37 PM
Quoted I think the reason Attumen can't be 5-man by Pally + 4Shamans is there needs to be a decurse in the encounter.


I'm too lazy to decurse when I 10 man it.

The very first time Suvega and I did Attumen, we 1-shot him.

We also forgot to fraps, but it's ok -- I ended up forgetting to re-buff Righteous Fury (for those who don't know -- it's like the "defensive stance" for pallies) and lost all 3 of my ele shammies after the first few lightning bolt volleys. Suvega had to dps the rest of the way with his 3 mages. We still did fine, and Attumen dropped the horse mount.




They action non-participation because you are hurting people other then yourself. If you are the only 10 people in there.... then?

They also action you because the opposing team is getting a benefit without having to do the work. Regardless of reasons, purposely losing / wintrading / "losing premades" can get not only your honor/gear removed, but any honor/arena gear after the fact due to the "benefit" you gained from the illegitimate gear while earning any future pieces of gear. Not worth it.

Grabmill
07-17-2008, 06:12 AM
and when he charges I have to play the 'spin the pally around game'.
When I'm tanking Nalorakk, I always turn him around anyway, so he is facing the spot where he is standing before the pull. If he charges, he will come back to you and you don't need to move or turn around at all.
But to be honest, I don't really think that your "team" is geared enough for him yet.
I wonder if you ever try heroics for quick badgers (especially the dailies)? Most heroic bosses are just tank & spank anyway, so that should be really easy.

lavander
07-18-2008, 01:18 AM
haha,
i m chinese and live in HangZhou, but i play a holy priest in US WOW..
now i m thinking about geting a chinaWOW version and visit you, lawl.. what you have been doing is amazing.

=D

Nixi
07-19-2008, 04:52 PM
-Update July 20, 2008-
Shade of Aran kill:
[no sound]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YyCeUKfIUw

I don't have any MP3s on the computer i'm using so I might reupload one with sound later.
I have videos of all the Kara bosses except Nightbane and Netherspite. Nightbane I got down to 45% this week on my best try while Netherspite was down to around 85% before I realized it's just WAYYYY to complicated to do. I also got the eagle boss in Zul'Aman down to 32% before my priest ran outta mana. I got the technique on the fight down but I'm running into a gear issue I believe. The rest of the kara bosses I might wait until I get some mp3s before i upload them.


Hey hey Lavander.
I played US Wow before but the lag was terrible.
I've had lots of people make toons on my server to find me and ask about the video. Either that or they are Alliance that I killed in a BG and they are asking me how I control the characters. lol

Nixi
07-21-2008, 05:45 PM
-Update July 22, 2008-
The Curator Kill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwb8oIf22yk

Prince Malchezaar Kill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIvT2n3nqqI


These have sound. I'm pretty proud of the Prince Malchezaar video, my skills at video editing have increased by 1.
I know it's old news but I'm gonna post these videos as I get them finished. [the dates on these videos do not correspond to the day i'm uploading them.]

Stabface
07-21-2008, 05:50 PM
Nixi, awesome work ! You are quite the inspiration!
I know it is a lot of work editing videos, but, is there any chance we could get a higher quality download version? Such as Vimeo or something like that. Youtube is OK but the quality is not so great.

Also I'm getting an error "this video is unavailable" for the Prince fight.
Edit: able to access the Prince fight at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIvT2n3nqqI now.

Nixi
07-21-2008, 05:55 PM
I made the file for the prince fight a bit bigger than the other files. It says it's 'still processing' but i thought it would have been finished by now... argh. It's like 6am and i have to work soon. ><

If you click on the 'watch in high quality' button the videos are actually pretty decent.

I'll try out another service once I get all the videos edited. It's just easy to put them up on Youtube. Plus I'm uploading from behind the great firewall of cn so it's not the most stable connection. I can't even reply to comments on my videos... *sighs*
Edit: I think i was able to reply to a comment but the connection still seems unstable. Youtube was blocked from where I'm at for a longtime (along with wikipedia,bbcnews, and even wowwiki).

edit: btw - do you guys like the full screen mode? This week I fought a lot of the battles without my interface up. I'm always staring at my priest screen anyway. :P

Los
07-22-2008, 06:59 AM
awesome, very lucky on those infernals though! :D

my hero

Nixi
07-23-2008, 03:16 AM
awesome, very lucky on those infernals though!

If he drops an infernal on my tank I just try to heal through it. Last night he dropped one and it was hitting only 2 of my alts and my tank.. i was doing okay healing through it and I moved one alt out, but while scrambling to move the other I let my tank die. ><

Other times he's dropped them just on my alts, and twice I've gotten away but it's always been a wipe. The one time I got away with the alts I simply didn't give my tank enough healing and the other time I moved my alts like 30 yards from him and his explosion wiped a few guys with the debuff. Overall very hectic and i haven't suceeded in recovering from a bad drop yet. I just wipe and try again.

Nightbane is a PITA. I've got the first ground phase down pat but the air phase is still really shaky for me. I either wipe during the rain of bones or during the transistion to the ground. I've got him back to the ground successfully a couple of time but then it's usually fear that gets me. I'm starting to blame my skills more than my equipment now. Last night on Moroes my offtank wiped really early, so i just tanked him with my back to him (to avoid gouge) and got his ass down to enraging. After he killed my tank I just started mashing heals and my lead shaman took a few hits. I tore him down to 3% before he finally wiped me. I know my MT's gear is pretty good.

I subed out one warlock for my warrior last night for Moroes, Maiden, The Opera (Romulo and Jul), and the mana feeders. Using melee alts is pretty hard but it was doable. It peeked my interest to try and use her as a tank again. Her gear sucks so hard though.

Overall a fun kara night. Atuneman, Maiden, Illhoof and Curator are all easy sauce while Moroes, Opera and Prince are at least doable in 2-3 trys. Chess event is just hit or miss, depending on if King Lane comes to me early. Aran gets down to the wire every time, I've never killed him with less than 4 people dead. Although last night I killed him in 3 trys.

Drizzit
07-23-2008, 09:02 AM
How long is it taking you per run now?

Nixi
07-24-2008, 12:59 PM
It's hard to tell how much time i spend actually playing. I go afk quite frequently for long periods of time. I still think it takes 6 hours of actual playtime to clear it. I'm getting fast every time though. Plus I waste a lot of time trying to kill nightbane every week. I have a lot of room to improve.

I'm lazy on the other videos. I've got clips for all the bosses I've killed but I'm just spending my time farming badges now. Yesterday I was still fancying the thought of bringing in my warrior as a MT (replacing a warlock) and letting my two paladins heal. So I took her out for a spin in heroics. Blood furnance was the daily. I think Fur put it best when he said check your ego at the door. She just got leveled over and over and I gave up. I took her through normal slabs for a confidence booster, then I went to heroic steamvaults and managed to eek by it. She died on every other pull though. ><

Her equipment is pathetic. She has like 445 defense and barely 11k health. I gem'd everything with sta gems, so she's lucky to have 11k health. I really dread the thought of gearing up another toon in normal instances, so I shelved her today (I don't mind heroics because of badges). I took my 3 new shamans and my two paladins and rocked heroics for a cool 26 badges today. It felt nice trashing heroics after getting pwn'd yesterday. The only difference was the tank...

My raid is strong enough to let her tag along for the first half of kara not doing much but dying and collecting loot. The warlock that i have to sub needs gear, so she'll only see the first 4 bosses before getting put back on the bench.

I'm really looking forward to ZAM, so having the extra tank will let me rotate a pally to full time healer. I can't stand to think of using 2 shamans and a priest to heal. seems like too much micromanagement to me, although I have yet to try it.