Different names on my accounts

[Monk3yv]

So i saw earlier in a thread that you can get in trouble for running your multiple accounts at the same time if a GM takes the time to check the name your registered each account under and they do not match.

My situation is that I never put my real name on the internet, ever. Never have. I usually make something up. Like Bam Bam or something stupid, anyway. Now that I got my toons to 20, I am kind of afraid to continue without getting in trouble, I have 2 70's on one of the account that I would really REALLY hate to lose.

Does anyone have any advice for me? and yea i have like 4 different names for each of the accounts I have, I never really thought about it. =/ I think only 2 of them match.

I just dont wanna be at the point where "Yay ding 45x5...-Hello this is game master party pooper may I have a moment of your time?-" ;(

[Turenn]

I know this is not going to help you, but I think you're screwd :\

[Monk3yv]

Yea I just looked in http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Index <---- that thread, and I think I am pretty screwed, I really really don't want to have to buy even more accounts ugh :pinch: .

I know for a fact like dozens of people at the Tauren starting area reported me for multiboxing, and nothing happened then, But i think I am playing with fire with this different name crap. I didn't really know better, didnt see any harm in the names not matching. /sigh

[moog]

Sorry Bam-Bam but it's time to buy new accounts... and a GM won't bother speaking to you, you'll just find that you can't log in one morning :(

[Simulacra]

Mmmm - so all the names are abviously false? like bam bam, yoohoo or whatever? I think if you ring blizz and explain the situation you may be ok as they should be able to check that the accounts have always been used from the same ip and billing has always been the same, email the same etc. Also the chars are low level which would count in your favour. Don't want to get your hopes up but you're screwed anyway so it's worth a shot.

[Monk3yv]

Yea it looks pretty dismal. I totally wanted to do this too, Time to start eating Top Ramen. Now that I know how to set everything up maybe this wont be such a big blow to me.

Now I'm trying to think of the cheapest way to do this. Hopefully Vyndree wont come in here and Regulate. jeez :S

[Monk3yv]

Mmmm - so all the names are abviously false? like bam bam, yoohoo or whatever? I think if you ring blizz and explain the situation you may be ok as they should be able to check that the accounts have always been used from the same ip and billing has always been the same, email the same etc. Also the chars are low level which would count in your favour. Don't want to get your hopes up but you're screwed anyway so it's worth a shot.Yea they are fake, But like moog said, I don't wanna try talking to a GM on of the the accounts and not be able to log in again. Maybe if I get a GM that had a good breakfast, and got the GM of the month award that morning.

I'm going to check to be sure, but I think only 2 accounts match exactly.

[Bena]

Bite the bullet and get proper accounts. It's better to do it now.. rather than finding out in 6 months that all your great gear/toons are gone.

[Skuggomann]

I know this is not going to help you, but I think you're screwd :\

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[Basilikos]

I know this is not going to help you, but I think you're screwd :\

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Harsh, dude.

Anyhow, this is a tough one. You really just ought to get new accounts. Note that you can 'refer a friend' yourself and get more free time above and beyond what comes with a new account. This will help with the costs somewhat.

[ImaHealer]

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[Vyndree]

A clearly fake name "i.e. 'Mickey Mouse'" is POSSIBLE to change -- but realize that you signed the terms of use/eula saying that you would provide accurate information and you did not.

It's up to Blizzard if they are going to be nice enough to allow you a second chance on your current accounts. If not, you're out of luck -- buy new accounts. If so... well thank Blizzard for being so forgiving.

I'd say try it -- report yourself for having a fake name on the account and see how far you can get.

[Depherios]

A clearly fake name "i.e. 'Mickey Mouse'" is POSSIBLE to change -- but realize that you signed the terms of use/eula saying that you would provide accurate information and you did not.

It's up to Blizzard if they are going to be nice enough to allow you a second chance on your current accounts. If not, you're out of luck -- buy new accounts. If so... well thank Blizzard for being so forgiving.

I'd say try it -- report yourself for having a fake name on the account and see how far you can get.I'd say to do this, since you're going to have to get new accounts one way or another, you might as well try.

[Groovy]

I'd have to agree with Vyndree, go all in and hope for the best.

[Coltimar]

Don't talk to a GM or e-mail accounts admin, call billing. They are, and generally helpful. This would be a good way to see if a name change is even possible.

[JoeWunsch]

I lost 5 X 70 warlocks and 30 shamans hunters, from having 2 names in my sisters name.

Just start over, 5 new accounts, 5 all in your exact info.

It just is not worh it after working so hard on your accounts to have them taken away.

edit :

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Take it from someone who lot a 4/5 S3 warlock team, I wasn;t going to get high enough for shoulders but I would have got S4 gloves, and a few of the lower S4 pieces like the 1700 and rated equiment easily.

It sucks but lesson learned, I am pack to lvl 10 but I am going to push the crap out of these characters this week and get back up there.

My main goal right now is to get a 5x lock, 5x shamana, 1x holy priest and 4X mage and a 5X hunter group to 58 /60 before WoTLK.

[Binaryzero]

They were great on my one call do billing I had, where I typo-ed the answer to the question and they helped me understand how I misspelled so I could do the X-fers I was trying to do.

[Stormweasel]

I´ve got a bit of an interesting one. There´s always been some confusion as to how my first name´s spelt, sometimes with an o near the end, sometimes with an a*

My passport says one, my bank account says another. I know I know it´s a long stupid story.

Anyway, I have two accounts at the moment. One of them is spelt one way, the other......the other.

Have e-mailed Blizz to ask if its possible to do an account transfer. All other details on the accounts (address, bank card, surname) are the same. Will let you know what they say just to see how insanely rigid this is.

* Edit because I really hate having any part of my real name on the net. Paranoia ftw :)

[Doubleo7]

If they are all yours and always have been. And you are proactive and contact Blizzard first, they shouldn't have a problem with it. If they do, maybe you should reconsider giving them any more of your money. Not wanting to put your real name on the internet is understandable. You really should come up with a fake name that you can use consistently, however. Either way, give Blizzard a chance to let you change it. They certainly can't think you are trying to hide it from them if you bring it to them first.

[Vyndree]

If they do, maybe you should reconsider giving them any more of your money. Not wanting to put your real name on the internet is understandable.

This would be correct.

If you don't agree to the ToU/EULA:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html

Establishing an Account.
You may establish one (1) user account (the "Account") on the Service for each Authentication Key you receive from Blizzard. To establish an Account, you will be required to provide Blizzard with certain personal information and the Authentication Key provided to you by Blizzard. Your failure to supply accurate information to Blizzard when requested, or to update that information as it changes, shall constitute a material breach of this Agreement.
During the registration process, you will be required to select a username and a password that are unique to the Account (collectively referred to hereunder as "Login Information"). You may not share the Account or the Login Information with anyone other than as expressly set forth herein.

Notwithstanding anything to the contrary herein, you acknowledge and agree that you shall have no ownership or other property interest in the Account, and you further acknowledge and agree that all rights in and to the Account are and shall forever be owned by and inure to the benefit of Blizzard.

Then you shouldn't click "I agree", and you shouldn't support them with any more money.

[Monk3yv]

Yeah I'll go ahead and try to talk to someone first, as the names are indeed obviously fake, but I am already prepared to go ahead and freeze my 3 un-matching accounts and creating 3 new matching ones.


If they do, maybe you should reconsider giving them any more of your money. Not wanting to put your real name on the internet is understandable.

This would be correct.

If you don't agree to the ToU/EULA:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html

Establishing an Account.
You may establish one (1) user account (the "Account") on the Service for each Authentication Key you receive from Blizzard. To establish an Account, you will be required to provide Blizzard with certain personal information and the Authentication Key provided to you by Blizzard. Your failure to supply accurate information to Blizzard when requested, or to update that information as it changes, shall constitute a material breach of this Agreement.
During the registration process, you will be required to select a username and a password that are unique to the Account (collectively referred to hereunder as "Login Information"). You may not share the Account or the Login Information with anyone other than as expressly set forth herein.

Notwithstanding anything to the contrary herein, you acknowledge and agree that you shall have no ownership or other property interest in the Account, and you further acknowledge and agree that all rights in and to the Account are and shall forever be owned by and inure to the benefit of Blizzard.

Then you shouldn't click "I agree", and you shouldn't support them with any more money.Yea it makes perfect sense now, but when i had my first, second, then third accounts, I was not even aware of account transfers, multiboxing using keyclone, or anything else. This was about 3 years ago, and so I saw no problem simply putting whatever I wanted, and honestly never even read the ToS when I created my accounts. I don't cheat and didnt plan on getting in trouble. I would multibox ghetto style using alt-tab :P

So now obviously I see the flaw in my mindset when i was a n00b, simple as that. Of course it makes sense now, it wasnt an issue. It is however an issue now :S

So anyway, thanks everyone. Wish me luck please.

[kega]

You can get cheap CD-keys on the net if you dont care about the CD's.
Dunno if it's ok to link sites here since they sell gold and what not too, but you can find the WoW battlechest cheaper then any store, EU that is.

[magwo]

Then you shouldn't click "I agree", and you shouldn't support them with any more money. And do what? WoW is the only fantasy MMO worth playing at the moment. Monopolies for the loss. There are no REAL alternatives, so customers are forced to accept Blizzard's greedy policies.

[Basilikos]

Then you shouldn't click "I agree", and you shouldn't support them with any more money. And do what? WoW is the only fantasy MMO worth playing at the moment. Monopolies for the loss. There are no REAL alternatives, so customers are forced to accept Blizzard's greedy policies.

You're not forced to play. And you're not forced to keep the game if you initially choose not to accept the agreement. Don't agree to documents you've not read.

[magwo]

A lot of you people don't seem to be familiar with the negative effects of monopolies and oligopolies.

[HPB]

A lot of you people don't seem to be familiar with the negative effects of monopolies and oligopolies.

There are TONS of mmorpg's out there. EQ2, Guild Wars, Pirates of the Caribean, Conan H. Adventures, City of Heroes, City of Villans, and tons more, including some that are completely free to play. I fail to see how Blizzard has a monopoly, just because you prefer to play WoW.

[magwo]

There have always been tons of alternative operating systems to DOS/Windows - still Microsoft has been sentenced many times in court for various monopoly-enabled offenses.

Edit: Don't get me wrong - I like WoW, I just think the EULA/TOS strongly violates "fair use" and customer integrity.

[Xuthus]

I suppose I'm screwed too then. but hoping I understand this part of
the TOU(terms of use) You represent that you are an adult in your
country of residence. You
agree to these Terms of Use on behalf of yourself and, at your
discretion, for one (1) minor child for whom you are a parent or
guardian and whom you have authorized to use the account you create on
the
Service.Now I have 5 boys they all play as do I,and my brother rents a
room he plays.So there are 9 accounts in all from this IP and 3 last
names on them of which I play 1 of mine and 4 of my boys, 2 that don't
play anymore 2 that are part timers the 5th is an addict that won't let
me near his.

I bought my boys thier copies of wow first they
all used there mans and my cc info. I got interested and got my own
account .I discovered you guys and with the tou statement above thought
I was in the clear.

any thoughts ?

[magwo]

tou statement above thought I was in the clear. As the names on the accounts differ you are not - I suggest you contact Blizzard and have the names changed to yours before you get banned.
This is yet another example of regular, honest customers getting shit because of Blizzards over-controlling and greedy contracts.

[Gadzooks]

tou statement above thought I was in the clear. As the names on the accounts differ you are not - I suggest you contact Blizzard and have the names changed to yours before you get banned.
This is yet another example of regular, honest customers getting shit because of Blizzards over-controlling and greedy contracts.Dude, enough with the "Blizzard Greed" crap. It's pointless and childish, and boring. People are asking for serious help, not your views on capitalism and monopolies.

And for the record, I think the policies are FINE the way they are. Go read some forums like MMOWNED where the account thieves hang out, and see all the ways they are trying to get around the security to KEEP accounts they steal, then read the threads on CSF where people are locked out of their accounts for weeks because of them, and then tell me Blizzard's rules are too strict, and it's all because of their "monopoly" and "greed".

I guarantee if your accounts get hacked, then you'll think the policies are FINE. Trust me, you will.

It's a pretty involved process right now to get a account back, imagine how worse it would be if the thieves could change the owner's name at will, and it was legal to buy accounts - which technically it would be if shared accounts were allowed - thieves would take accounts and they'd never be seen again, because Blizzard would not and could not afford the staff and lawyers to subpeona banks and PayPal to get billing info and records of transactions. Having ONE owner on the account is the best security you can have. If they reduced their security so people like you are happy, I GUARANTEE Account Administration will stop recovering accounts from that moment forward. "Account hacked? Gear sharded? Sorry, can't help you, move along!" The policies are there for damned solid reasons, and I'll bet you anything they studied every game out before WoW to see what security issues they would face, and determined that account sharing = massive fraud, not "Muahahaha we'll fleece them for BILLIONS!" <Dr. Evil pinky> "Muahahahaha Muahahahaha Muahahaha"

But if you want to keep making your moronic statements about "greedy Blizzard", go for it, but just don't do it here. This is a forum to discuss multi-boxing, not complain about Blizzard, and you stain the community with your comments. In case you haven't noticed, most people here are pro-Blizzard and support their policies, including the guy who runs the place.

If you want to babble about monopolies and "greedy Blizzard", take it to the General Forums, there's plenty of trolls there who will share that kind of idiotic butthurt.

[magwo]

It would be interesting to know if account selling is illegal because of account thieves. I think not - this has been illegal in most MMOs many years before systematic account stealing was even invented. No, account selling is forbidden because the publisher wants to make as much money as possible, and they see none of it when accounts change owner.

I think it does matter, and I do think that customers should be more aware and complain to Blizzard about these things.


There should be laws to protect customers from sinister EULAs/TOSes. There is this thing called fair use, which I think the law should impose on the MMO business as well.


I do not agree at all with the EULA/TOS, yet I still play the game because there is no other game I would want to play. See the problem?

[Tdog]

I would think your best shot would be to call up Blizzard on the phone and tell explain the sitution in person first and if you have the orginal reciepts that could go along way into helping you out. Other than that you'll probably have to end up buying up a couple more copies and releveling a few toons.

I ended up having to do the same thing. My roommate ended up installing my first copy of wow back in the day since i had to run off to work and the install took so long. W/o thinking about it he put his own name into the account creation info. :( Anyways long story short when I started multiboxing some of the accounts where in my name, some in his even though I legitly bought all the copies it wouldn't have matter. If I had gotten caught, which i never did, I would of lost at least 3 of my accounts and all the work that went along with it.

[Gadzooks]

It would be interesting to know if account selling is illegal because of account thieves. I think not - this has been illegal in most MMOs many years before systematic account stealing was even invented. No, account selling is forbidden because the publisher wants to make as much money as possible, and they see none of it when accounts change owner.

I think it does matter, and I do think that customers should be more aware and complain to Blizzard about these things.


There should be laws to protect customers from sinister EULAs/TOSes. There is this thing called fair use, which I think the law should impose on the MMO business as well.


I do not agree at all with the EULA/TOS, yet I still play the game because there is no other game I would want to play. See the problem?I'm not going to argue this with you. If you disagree, it's YOUR problem, not the communities, regardless of what paranoid fantasies you entertain as to why they created their policies.

Like I said, this thread is to help people, not sooth your butthurt. Sniveling about YOUR problem with the EULA/TOS does not help anyone.

[magwo]

I do not have any problems whatsoever, but a lot of people do - the thread creator for example. And it's all Blizzard's fault, and I think it is bad on their part.

[Vyndree]

I bought my boys thier copies of wow first they
all used there mans and my cc info. I got interested and got my own
account .I discovered you guys and with the tou statement above thought
I was in the clear.

any thoughts ?

I'm a bit confused about what you're asking here. Are you saying that you mistakenly put your minor dependant child's name on the account?

Someone on the forums was saying that, in that case, you could get it updated back to your name. But they'd need proof that you were the parent and that the child was indeed minor. I'd contact account administration and see if you can get things sorted out.

[Vyndree]

Like I said, this thread is to help people, not sooth your butthurt. Sniveling about YOUR problem with the EULA/TOS does not help anyone.

QFT -- if you want to discuss the ToU/Eula itself I suggest you discuss it on the Blizzard suggestions forum or, at the very least, in a different thread. This thread is about account sharing from people who have already clicked "I accept" on the ToU/Eula and have broken it -- they are looking for ways to rectify the situation.

If you don't agree with something -- even if it is a monopoly or conspiracy theory -- you should NEVER NEVER NEVER click "I accept". There is NO excuse for agreeing to terms that are clearly distasteful to you. If you don't like the Terms/Eula and you think there is a monopoly going on, I suggest you find some legal council and figure out what you, as a consumer, can do about it. Agreeing to the terms is NOT the right course of actions, PARTICULARLY when you have such strong feelings about Blizzard's "unfair" rules.

[Basilikos]

I do not agree at all with the EULA/TOS, yet I still play the game because there is no other game I would want to play. See the problem?

Yeah. The problem is that you agreed to a legally binding contract and think you ought to be able to violate it without consequence.

[Basilikos]

And it's all Blizzard's fault, and I think it is bad on their part.

No. They agreed not to do something and then did it. Debating the fairness of Blizzard's policy is one thing, but saying that Blizzard forces people to violate it is another.

[heyaz]

I do not agree at all with the EULA/TOS, yet I still play the game because there is no other game I would want to play. See the problem?

Yeah. The problem is that you agreed to a legally binding contract and think you ought to be able to violate it without consequence.Clicking checkboxes on the internet for software EULAs enters you into legally binding contracts now? Pretty sure it's just an agreement between you and blizzard about the service. You break the rules, you lose the service. That's it.

Some of you are taking the concept of a EULA and TOS way too far, to the extent of a full legal contact. I never read the full terms, I clicked agree, and I have been enjoying wow for years with no fear whatsoever that my actions in a video game could have legal implications. Yes, certain actions could cause me to lose my service, but that is about the extent of Blizzard reach (and interest, for that matter).

[Vyndree]

I never read the full terms, I clicked agree, and I have been enjoying wow for years with no fear whatsoever that my actions in a video game could have legal implications. Yes, certain actions could cause me to lose my service, but that is about the extent of Blizzard reach

That is the legal agreement -- Blizzard signed a contract with you. They CANNOT legally deny you service if you are abiding by the ToU/EULA. Of course, they have caveats within the ToU/EULA that says they can cancel service at any time -- but that's for their own protection (and you did click "I agree" -- did you not?). Ignorance of a contract does not absolve you of it -- particularly since you re-sign it EVERY TIME THERE'S A PATCH.

However, we on these forums have made it our utmost priority to follow the ToU/Eula for ALL of the games we play.
See the Community Guidelines ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Board&boardID=31') for clarification

Game Specific Forum Rules
If it is against the ToS of the game you are discussing it is against dual-boxing.com’s community guidelines to discuss ways of breaking said ToS. We are COMMITTED to keeping our hobby 100% compliant with the ToS of any game we play.

Or did you just think that not reading OUR rules wouldn't result in any implications either?

We do not appreciate being associated with people who knowingly break or disregard the game rules. It ruins our reputation as well as yours.

This is your first and final warning -- discussing breaking the rules on this forum is a big no-no.



This thread has been locked due to bad behavior. Play nice in the future so I don't have to do it again.