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captgarrett
06-30-2008, 02:19 PM
Couple of things I have questions about because this program has a very poor tutorial. I'm running two copies of wow on two monitors ont he same pc. I have a very good pc so I can do it no problem. Center screen is my main, to my right is my second character.

My main frustration so far is that when I move my mouse, it only moves on the center screen. This program is completely useless to me if I can't rotate the field of view to move both characters. I would really suck to have to swap screens to gather quests and turn them in x however many clones you have. I'm assuming you can, but I just am not doing it correctly. Please help.

First, I don't think I'm pairing stuff up right.

"The tutorial says:
first, run your clones and sign in.
next, click the 'add' button on keyclone and hover over the center of the clone window.

note: do not click on the titlebar as you will specify the wrong window to clone."

This is vague. By clone window, do they mean the keyclone window or the wow window. "Clone window" could be either. When I try clicking on the wow window, nothing happens. When I click on the keyclone window, I get a thing that pops up on the window, but I can't do anything but rename it.


Pairing ambiguity #2:
"once you have clicked on the clone, an item will appear in the list. the item will shown just the window title. repeat for all your clones."

So by this does it mean I physically move the keyclone client over to the second wow window and repeat? Cause if so, it's not working for me. This part is really confusing because of the completely useless visual picture beside it in the tutorial. Two windows are up and only one world of warcraft link is in the keyclone client. On mine, there are two. The item appears on my list when I click on the client, but I does NOT give me a second when I repeat the process for the second wow link in the same client field. Of course not knowing the step ahead of this complicates matters considerably.

Issue number three: There are TONS of things like "focus follows mouse" and literally dozens of other things that are not explained anywhere in the tutorial and there isn't a user's manual to my knowledge. Am I suppose to just guess what this stuff does? I do expect a much better user's manual or at least one when I purchase a program or peice of hardware. I don't think it's asking much.

Drizzit
06-30-2008, 02:26 PM
Popcorn

Talamarr
06-30-2008, 02:40 PM
Nice answer: This forum is better than ANY user manual you will ever find/need. Just browse through the topics and read the wiki. The creator of the software is a poster here and provides some of the best software support I have seen in my 10+ years of developing software myself. User manuals are so 1990's anyway :D

Outside of that..../popcorn.

Awbee
06-30-2008, 02:40 PM
My main frustration so far is that when I move my mouse, it only moves on the center screen. This program is completely useless to me if I can't rotate the field of view to move both characters. I would really suck to have to swap screens to gather quests and turn them in x however many clones you have. I'm assuming you can, but I just am not doing it correctly. Please help.

I don't think you can control the mouse in two windows of wow on the same computer using keyclone. The mouse sync would be used if you had keyclone on 2 machines and had them talking together and each only running one instance of WoW.




"The tutorial says:
first, run your clones and sign in.
next, click the 'add' button on keyclone and hover over the center of the clone window.

note: do not click on the titlebar as you will specify the wrong window to clone."

This is vague. By clone window, do they mean the keyclone window or the wow window. "Clone window" could be either. When I try clicking on the wow window, nothing happens. When I click on the keyclone window, I get a thing that pops up on the window, but I can't do anything but rename it.


Pairing ambiguity #2:
"once you have clicked on the clone, an item will appear in the list. the item will shown just the window title. repeat for all your clones."

So by this does it mean I physically move the keyclone client over to the second wow window and repeat? Cause if so, it's not working for me. This part is really confusing because of the completely useless visual picture beside it in the tutorial. Two windows are up and only one world of warcraft link is in the keyclone client. On mine, there are two. The item appears on my list when I click on the client, but I does NOT give me a second when I repeat the process for the second wow link in the same client field. Of course not knowing the step ahead of this complicates matters considerably.


I didn't follow those instructions and it does sound a little confusing. The way I did it was by having Keyclone launch my instances of WoW. You have to setup this up under the settings/general. The instructions on the keyclone site are a little out of date per versioning.




Issue number three: There are TONS of things like "focus follows mouse" and literally dozens of other things that are not explained anywhere in the tutorial and there isn't a user's manual to my knowledge. Am I suppose to just guess what this stuff does? I do expect a much better user's manual or at least one when I purchase a program or peice of hardware. I don't think it's asking much.



I can explain the "focus follow mouse" like this, when you mouse over from one active window of WoW to another window of WoW, the second one you mouseover would gain Window focus, not as in WoW focus, but application focus.





This is also the best place for support. Keyclone the user is very active here and always willing to answer any questions and get you working.

keyclone
06-30-2008, 02:43 PM
Heya Garrett and welcome to the forums.

first, check this link:
Keyclone!!! ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=76457#post76457')

next would be the links under the tool tray icon... FAQ. (some could have been recently wiped out due to an error on the forums... and will be rectified in the next release)
FAQ: step-by-step basic keyclone setup ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=8716')
HOWTo - Set up Maximizer (Updated PiP) ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=8717')

i have not spent much time documenting, deciding to instead spend the time coding (there has been a new release every 3 weeks or so since last august... that's a tight schedule)

the tutorial was a step-by-painful-step list of the things people would go through while just setting up. it is being updated, but is not completed yet.

if you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note anytime... i'm fairly good at responding to people quickly when they have questions (i also meet up with 1 or 2 people a night via vent to help them set up)

edit:
dang.. you guys are fast!

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Drizzit
07-01-2008, 07:39 AM
http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/images/smilies/old_ubb_smilies/popcorn.gifHow you get the popcorn guy? Think we could add it to the smileys?

Otlecs
07-01-2008, 07:44 AM
How you get the popcorn guy? Think we could add it to the smileys?

That'd be great!

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gbremset
07-01-2008, 09:03 AM
Are you sure your wow window is set to Windowed mode, and not fullscreen? For some annoying reason, wow does not allow your mouse to leave the main wow screen unless wow is set to use windowed mode.