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Padarox
06-27-2008, 03:13 PM
Hmmm, getting some problems with my new pc and the 8GB RAM :(

First i'll tried to install Vista x64 (included SP1) and the Setup shows up that the kernel is corrupt...
Google told me to install with 4 GB RAM - That finished the Setup without any Errors

But now i want to use the 8 GB RAM ;)

Wenn I try to install the 4th slot, Vista crashes on bootup with "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" :(
With 6 GB instead it works fine

To resolve the problem I have tried out:
- Fixing with the Microsuff Patch for more than 3GB - Doesn't work for me, says: "System doesn't match" - I'll think the patch is included in SP1
- Apply the correct value for the RAM in the Bios
- Bios Update to last revision

Now I'm at the end of my ideas...
I NEED UR HELP :)



Sry, for my bad english ;)

ThatIrishGuy
06-27-2008, 03:29 PM
That sounds like one of the RAM sticks is bad. if its new or under warranty then get a replacement. and thats all i can think of.

Padarox
06-27-2008, 03:34 PM
All of the sticks are tested (standalone) with memtest without any problems :(
The RAM isn't damaged and working 100% - standalone :(

Sarduci
06-27-2008, 03:54 PM
Yeah, it sounds like bad memory. The stop code you listed is for a bad device driver with an improper level telling another one it should not to do something.

You should NOT have to use the /3gb switch with a 64 bit OS.

Try to bump up your RAM voltage in the BIOS a tiny bit. You may be suffering from something called vdroop. The more RAM you have, the bigger the more energy it takes to do the same refresh of memory.

Edit - Linky to vdroop - http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=126

Padarox
06-27-2008, 03:57 PM
There is a Patch for the 3GB Switch for 32 and 64 Bit Systems ;)
In past there was a problem with the 3GB Switch in the 64 Bit System too ...

But i've solved my problem with the great help of the German Community here :)

The f****** board sets the RAM to 1067 MHz but the sticks only supports 800 MHz

Setting down the ratio of the RAM is the key for me :)

THANKS!

Bollwerk
06-27-2008, 04:00 PM
Motherboards can be EXTREMELY picky when using all of their RAM slots. Most MB makers have a list of RAM modules that they have tested and certified to work. Some are even so picky that it matters if the chips are on one side or both of the stick.

Also, make sure you have installed ALL critical updates for Vista.

Avatari
06-27-2008, 04:01 PM
Check your power supply on your system sounds like you need a min of 1k watts most likely 1200, Check your mother board to make sure you have switchs set to read the ram you have in the slots if they are changable, Make sure to read your mother board owners manual to ensure you have the ram in the correct order specified in the book. Check mother board to make sure it can read 8g ram. Make sure your MB is Vista 64bit compatible.



Sounds like you have a nice system I have been specing a 64bit system to start 5 boxing on so once you get stable please let us know how it is running.



If you get a chance to post your full system profile hardware that would be awesome its been a few years since I built a computer so I'll be posting my final chosen items for people to give me imput if this looks like the Beast I'm hoping for.



Good luck with the problems



Avatari



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Sarduci
06-27-2008, 05:17 PM
1k watts? Man, that's an expensive power bill. My system is a quad core, 8gb ram, biggest NVidia card you buy 5 months ago. 650w power supply to push it all. The system only pulls 420watts when running WoW full out.

Anozireth
06-27-2008, 08:44 PM
1000W is overkill for anything short of a quad-SLI system with several disks and other accessories.

Padarox
06-29-2008, 03:19 AM
O.K. thats my system:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4 GHz
RAM: 4x 2GB Mushkin @ 800 MHz
Board: MSI P35 Neo
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX 512MB
HDD: 1x Samsung 500GB via SATA 300
Power: 650W

Playing 5 WoWs on Vista x64 (1 with high settings 1650x1080 - 4 with low settings on the second screen) I'll getting 50-60 fps each client

AND my problem is fixed - Now I'm happy :)

Neogeo
06-30-2008, 11:19 AM
Im having big problems with IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL as well. Some days I can have 5 bluescreens. :-(

My system conf (please dont start a DELL-flame-war):
DELL XPS
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Ram 2x1 + 2x2 GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce 800GT
Windows Vista (32-bit)

I will upgrade to Vista 64 in a month or so (in order to utulize my 6GB worth of RAM), but until then it would be great to get things to run smooth. So far I havent done anything preemtive but I will make sure run memtest as well as check the settings in the BIOS.

Neogeo
07-01-2008, 04:07 AM
I removed 2x1GB worth of memory yesterday (Im still caped with my 2x2GB on 32-bit Vista) and I could play all night without a single bluescreen ... fingers crossed this is the sollution.

Padarox
07-01-2008, 03:36 PM
Hmmm... I think thats not a good solution to use 2 different manufacturer...
In past I had the same problem with 1x 512 MB and 1x 256 MB... In the end, the motherboard turned on the wrong values (the settings from the 512MB) and my 256 MB said "Goodbye" ;)
If u use 2 different, check if the values from the lower sticks are set!

Bovidae
07-01-2008, 03:52 PM
He's right, mixing memory is asking for trouble.

Variance in speed (MHz), timings (4-4-4-12 for example) and size (512mb/1gb/2gb) will all cause you nothing but problems. That is why it is recomendable to buy the exact same modules for all slots.