Some guy claiming multiboxing will be "removed" in WoTLK.

[JoeWunsch]

Personally I called BS on everything he was saying, since I know there is more than 1 Alpha F+F member here, and we would most likely hear about it before this guy.

But anyway this is what he claims :


Too bad if you would read all the insider info they are getting rid of Multi-boxing with WoTlk. You won't beable to use a program that links all the characters keybinds together.. so unless you actually alt-tabbing between the others/running them all in windowed.. you will only be able ot control them one at a time. Your tears will then.. Quench my thirst KthxBai
Why should I digg up more info for you? I'm not going to be affected by this change. So if you want to know how about you google it.. Im sure your atleast smart enough to do that much... or do you need 4 more characters to help you type it?
Are you blizzard? Do you know how they are going to implement it into the new hack/3rd party software detection that will be used in WoTLK ? They also might be linking your cd-key to your login.. meaning you can only login to the account that used the cd-key you installed the game with.. so to run another account you would have to modify your registery.. which would let you then access that other accounts, but not the account you just changed the info from. Read up on it.. Lots of changes in the works.

I understand why you want to kill me a liar, because now you will be faced to play with one account and to have SKILL to achieve anything. So yes your other accounts will still be viable and you able to play them, but not all at one time.. No more omg 1 shot or omg im leet cause i multi-box bs.

Anyways I guess all that is left to say is... Have fun with your multi while it lasts, cause when WoTlk comes out you will once again need to know how to play your character and not skip threw the game with easy mode 2-5 characters at once. Just the way he types and represents himself made me dismiss anything he said as being non-factual, but figured I would throw this up on here for people to discuss.

Original Thread : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475458499&sid=1&pageNo=1

[Syro]

Why should I digg up more info for you? I'm not going to be affected by this change. So if you want to know how about you google it.. Im sure your atleast smart enough to do that much I'm sorry, but if he's making a statement and/or accusations that multi-boxing will be against the ToS, then he needs to provide evidence to support his argument, not you. Debate 101, it's not that hard, evidence to support your claims otherwise they're not true/valid. He just sounds a little jealous or upset.

I'd wait until Blizzard comes out with anything official, from the horse's mouth and all that, before worrying about this.

Also, when installing the game, it doesn't add anything to the registry, and I doubt WotLK will either. This guy is full of it.

[-silencer-]

It's not going to happen.. for one simple reason:
Money.

I find it hard to believe that many people quit WoW because they're frustrated by the few multiboxers out there. However, Blizzard knows they'll lose a chunk of subscriptions if they remove the ease of multiboxing. You can tell they had multiboxing in mind when they made the game in the first place - there are too many easy macro commands available for this to not be the case. They openly allow it because they'd love for every player to become a multiboxer. :)

[Tdog]

This guy is completely retarded. Do yourself a favor and don't try to rationalize with the guy, he'll only frustrate you more and more until you realize he isn't after the truth, he's just QQ'ing out of jealousy or wtf/e his emo problem is.

[Eteocles]

I posted something similar a few days ago...here ya go:

http://home.comcast.net/~gotnks2/WoW3/LOLTard.jpg

Basically said the same thing you did, seems to be the new tactic, "LOL UR GONE IN EXPANSION HAW HAW"; if he doesn't even know the program we use how does he know it's gone? These people are just further evidence of why I hate people.

[Tdog]

It's not going to happen.. for one simple reason:
Money.

I find it hard to believe that many people quit WoW because they're frustrated by the few multiboxers out there. However, Blizzard knows they'll lose a chunk of subscriptions if they remove the ease of multiboxing. You can tell they had multiboxing in mind when they made the game in the first place - there are too many easy macro commands available for this to not be the case. They openly allow it because they'd love for every player to become a multiboxer. :)I highly doubt the meager amount of money blizzard is getting off us has anything to do with them allowing multi-boxing programs/hardware usage. They got another 10 million subscribers even if every last one of us decided to leave WoW. Blizzard is not a poor or financially unstable company. I have seen a few posts by Blizzard employees admitting they multibox themselves. If anything I suspect they made it easy to multi-box intentionally because they wanted it to be an option in the game.

[Tdog]

...Basically said the same thing you did, seems to be the new tactic, "LOL UR GONE IN EXPANSION HAW HAW"; if he doesn't even know the program we use how does he know it's gone? These people are just further evidence of why I hate people.I love how the guy says that they will soon be able to detect the multiboxing programs....Umm Blizzard can already detect Keyclone DUMBASS!!! as well as the rest of key broadcasting programs. He acts as if Blizzard has yet to be successful in detecting such things.

[bugilt]

You won't be able to use a program that links all the characters keybinds together

This alone shows he doesn't understand what he's talking about.

[krum]

Actually what this guy is saying has credibility if the WotLK client (or a newer version of any client) uses DirectInput instead of Windows messages for keyboard and mouse input. If this is the case then the current crop of multiboxing tools that use windows messages to pass input events into the different windows will in fact quit working. There is a legtimate reason for doing this as it can reduce the latency caused by the windows message queue. This does not mean that we can not modify our tools to work with DirectInput. They may also look at if the window has the focus and reject messages if it does not, but again, we could change things around a bit so that the operating system reports that the window has focus even if it doesn't.

FWIW, I am a professional PC game developer, so I'm just not blowing smoke out my butt.

[krum]

I've got the test client downloaded and running. I'll test this theory later this evening.

[krum]

Very interesting! (seriously... i never knew how those things worked).

But what about Mac and Linux? (Clonekeys and synergy are cross platform).Well of course with Linux anything goes because you've got the source code to the operating system and to the Win32 emulation layer (Wine) so you can fake it to do anything you want. I've always had a difficult time running more than one instance of WoW under Wine though.

Not sure about Mac.

[Jorai]

I don't buy this at all. first of all, they could just restrict it and call it an offense now. all GM conversations and Blue posts indicate that they will never ban this mode of play.

they would never do the thing with the cd key. how many people use one computer for multiple accounts? i know several. They are younger people who share a family comp and use 1 copy of the game on 1 comp...but when each brother logs in , it's to their own account.

how about playing at a friend's house on their roomate's computer? or an internet cafe that has WoW - there are a few in NYC, people used to play WoW at neutral ground all the time (neutral ground is like a club for geeks to go play magic and they have computers there as well <3 )

just sounds like crap to me. these anti-multiboxers are ridiculous.

[succulent]

All blizzard has to do to kill multi-boxing is remove /follow and /assist as macro commands. You still could box without them, but I know I probably wouldn't.

This is just some jerk trying to intimidate you. What he wants is attention -- don't give it to him.

[Stabface]

CD key isn't stored anywhere in the registry. Basically, this guy went all Gilligan on the SS Failboat.

[DigitalDeuce]

this guy went all Gilligan on the SS Failboat.



Great. Now I have to clean coca~cola off my monitors and keyboard. :thumbsup:

[Stabface]

:D

Also I can personally confirm that at least as of ~2 weeks ago, you can on one machine run 2 instances of the WotLK alpha client and log in 2 accounts and play them.
We didn't get a chance to test key broadcasting software yet, I'll try this someday but likely won't get a chance until late July.

[krum]

CD key isn't stored anywhere in the registry. Basically, this guy went all Gilligan on the SS Failboat.That's hilarious. I agree - I do not believe there's any truth to this.

[Kissell13]

Not gonna happen. If it does I can guarrantee that there will be a notice way before anyone is banned. It would be a PR nightmare to ban all the mboxers without an ample warning that they are changing their stance on the practice considering they have stated many many times that they are ok with boxing. Changing stance and insta banning all of us would just be bad business. I do not see this happening anyway.

[Zite83]

I will never understand why people hate multiboxing so much... The main reason people say they hate it is because of PvP/Arena/BGs/Ect.. Ect... 1v5 will never win.. MB or not...

[-silencer-]

I will never under why people hate multiboxing so much... The main reason people say they hate it is because of PvP/Arena/BGs/Ect.. Ect... 1v5 will never win.. MB or not...
The real reason is they're just jealous they can't get mommy and daddy to dish out $75/mo for something that takes the rest of us a couple hours to make. It's the same reason asshats will key a nice car in the parking lot.. if they can't have it, they want to make sure no one else can enjoy it as well.

[Coltimar]

I waited outside of a local bar tonight and kidnapped a GM. I did the usual, brought him, chained him in the basement shower, with the water running. After I let my 7 year work him over with this replica lightsaber I kicked the crap out of him for about a half an hour. He was finally ready to chat. From what he said (it was hard to understand him since he was missing so many teeth) I think he said either "Multiboxing will change with the Lich King Expansion" or "Shadowboxing is strange with a rich Marilyn Manson". Either way he bled out before I could get much else out of him.

P.S. This story is every bit as creditable a source of information about this as was referenced in the link posted by the OP.

[keyclone]

btw... if they wanted to detect a multiboxer, independent of the mechanism (hardware or software)... they could easily do it at the server.

and i highly doubt they would defend multiboxing for months.... only to cave to a few forum carebears and do a 180

[Basilikos]

I waited outside of a local bar tonight and kidnapped a GM. I did the usual, brought him, chained him in the basement shower, with the water running. After I let my 7 year work him over with this replica lightsaber I kicked the crap out of him for about a half an hour. He was finally ready to chat. From what he said (it was hard to understand him since he was missing so many teeth) I think he said either "Multiboxing will change with the Lich King Expansion" or "Shadowboxing is strange with a rich Marilyn Manson". Either way he bled out before I could get much else out of him.

P.S. This story is every bit as creditable a source of information about this as was referenced in the link posted by the OP.

ATTN DUAL-BOXING.COM PATRONS: Coltimar is made of win.

Best thing I've read today, and that's saying something. You should send that in to WoW's fan fiction people.

[BigSmitty]

I waited outside of a local bar tonight and kidnapped a GM. I did the usual, brought him, chained him in the basement shower, with the water running. After I let my 7 year work him over with this replica lightsaber I kicked the crap out of him for about a half an hour. He was finally ready to chat. From what he said (it was hard to understand him since he was missing so many teeth) I think he said either "Multiboxing will change with the Lich King Expansion" or "Shadowboxing is strange with a rich Marilyn Manson". Either way he bled out before I could get much else out of him.

P.S. This story is every bit as creditable a source of information about this as was referenced in the link posted by the OP.

ATTN DUAL-BOXING.COM PATRONS: Coltimar is made of win.

Best thing I've read today, and that's saying something. You should send that in to WoW's fan fiction people.
I second that. Awesomeness. I posted on the thread, just because I've NEVER said anything about it previously, but I'm starting to get seriously PISSED because folks automatically assume that we HAVE to multibox to make up for lack of skill...

Good to see folks here and others (in the shadows perhaps) attempting to explain it to the general rubes who troll the forums. Then again, that works about as well as explaining to my 4 month old daughter the dynamics of fluid power. I get the same "deer in the headlights" looks from both...

Anyways, enough for tonight. Time for a new team on Dreadmaul... Oceanic server with 80ms ping from da house... :D

[Crayonbox]

I would like to add my little gem to this thread.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2498/tellorireportdgw4.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tellorireportdgw4.jpg)

[Turenn]

I would like to add my little gem to this thread.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2498/tellorireportdgw4.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tellorireportdgw4.jpg)


HAHAHA!

[Tdog]

I would like to add my little gem to this thread.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2498/tellorireportdgw4.th.jpg ('http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tellorireportdgw4.jpg')1. Get really, really, REALLY drunk.
2. Take a little drive on the freeway, assuming you can find your front door.
3. Hit about 90 m.p.h., turn off your headlights, let go of the wheel, and put a blindfold on.
4. After a min or two you should feel a series of sharp bumps and bangs, don't worry this is normal.
5. After a little bit someone will remove your blindfold for you and tell you all about how to download multi-boxing.

[Jorai]

i love reading basiliko's posts , man you just shut them down...well logically it should shut them down but they are forum trolls so ugh

no life, waste of money, blah blah...people are immature. these are just kids, they HAVE to be. sad thing is - when i was young i made enough money to do whatever i want. these are the kids whose parents pay for their WoW accounts and give them small allowances..they have no work ethic, no sense of civility, and no true understanding of how MBing works. half of these 15 year olds could get a summer job and try it out for themselves.

the skill thing annoys me too. yesterday i was at level 54 and 3 level 52's ganked me in felwood when i was at about 10% health. i came back and killed all three of them, repeatedly. that is one rogue vs. a rogue, priest, and druid. PRIEST AND DRUID. they had no chance against me because i was playing the class i know the most, and was able to jump around and CC the living hell out of them while out maneuvering them.

if i was on my 3 locks and got attacked by a rogue/priest/druid...i'd be fuckin DONE. hmm well maybe with howl and my felguard..... *goes to level lock trio lol

ugh bottom line - multi boxing is NOT easy mode. at least not running three warlocks. PvP is difficult and the whole game changes. but it's not like i need to explain that to any of you fine folks.

[OzPhoenix]

Frankly it's getting closer to the time when a nice blue sticky on those atrocious forums would be useful for a week or two.

While I often chuckle at the rank stupidity many (not all though) of the anti-multiboxers spew forth, the sheer volume of these threads, which are a daily occurrence now is getting quite annoying.

The only upside I see to it, is that the rest of the community seems to have grown so tired of hearing the same complaints over and over that they are steadily growing more tolerant of multiboxing and less tolerant of that vocal pig-headed minority who won't just shut the f*** up about it.

[Ifalna]

Why you are getting even remotely worried by the factless crap coming out of some random multibox hater confuses me ;)

Its perfectly on par with " Its agains the rules because I said it is"

[OzPhoenix]

Why you are getting even remotely worried by the factless crap coming out of some random multibox hater confuses me ;)

Its perfectly on par with " Its agains the rules because I said it is"

Worried? No, annoyed? Yeah. I mean, I know the WoW forums are basically complete trash at the best of times, but it'd be nice to go a week say without some clueless turd posting about his/her views against multiboxing.

[zanthor]

If blizzard decides to get rid of multiboxing, they will do it in a simple, brutal, and non reversable way...

It won't stop us from sending keystrokes to all machines.
It won't stop us from casting syrnonized spells.
It won't stop us from doing anything we normally do on a daily basis except the ONE thing that makes this at all possible...

They will simply remove /follow.

Without /follow, there is no multiboxing.

[Tdog]

Why you are getting even remotely worried by the factless crap coming out of some random multibox hater confuses me ;)

Its perfectly on par with " Its agains the rules because I said it is"

Worried? No, annoyed? Yeah. I mean, I know the WoW forums are basically complete trash at the best of times, but it'd be nice to go a week say without some clueless turd posting about his/her views against multiboxing.I'm pretty sure he was talking to the OP.



If blizzard decides to get rid of multiboxing, they will do it in a simple, brutal, and non reversable way...

It won't stop us from sending keystrokes to all machines.
It won't stop us from casting syrnonized spells.
It won't stop us from doing anything we normally do on a daily basis except the ONE thing that makes this at all possible...

They will simply remove /follow.

Without /follow, there is no multiboxing.Uhh...I've dualboxed w/o /follow using an alliance 70 to kill stuff for a horde 62. It sucked in comparison to having /follow but It wasn't so bad that I couldn't do it. 5 boxing? yea no eff that w/o /follow.

[zanthor]

And I didn't see that was dropped about 3/4ths down page 1...

I too had to go clean coke off my keyboard/monitor due to the going Gilligan comment...

[Talos]

standard response is standard:

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6756/wowscrnshot062408223841mz2.jpg
i asked him the next morning how his chat with the GM was, he replied he didnt, didnt even report me, we talked it out later and he actually excused his behaviour ;)

[Frosty]

They also might be linking your cd-key to your login.. meaning you can only login to the account that used the cd-key you installed the game with.. I'm a little confused...isn't this how it works now? ?( I mean..we do all have 2-5 additional CD keys tied to 2-5 different usernames... right??

I've run into several people who think we play 5 toons from the same account/login.

[blast3r]

This guy is completely retarded. Do yourself a favor and don't try to rationalize with the guy, he'll only frustrate you more and more until you realize he isn't after the truth, he's just QQ'ing out of jealousy or wtf/e his emo problem is.I agree...a total moron. He doesn't even know what he is taking about.

[Drizzit]

No more omg 1 shot or omg im leet cause i multi-box bs.
Do you know any multi-boxer that can 1 shot a lvl 70? Nope, it is 4/5 shots (one from each one).

I don't think blizzard will get ride of it, it will probably make boss non boxer friendly... Like how they did mrt. Even in kara it isn't too boxer friendly. Hopefully when blizzard is making the instances, they make 1 really good multi-boxer friendly. Hopefully it will be a lvl 74 instance that you can grind till 80 and it is easy on heroic mode :love:

[Ðeceased]

They also might be linking your cd-key to your login.. meaning you can only login to the account that used the cd-key you installed the game with.. I'm a little confused...isn't this how it works now? ?( I mean..we do all have 2-5 additional CD keys tied to 2-5 different usernames... right??

I've run into several people who think we play 5 toons from the same account/login.

He is still obviously deluded, and thinks we play from hacked accounts.. /facepalm

or

he's just trying to make a fuss.. notice how his argument changes as he goes along. First it's that they will be able to detect it and ban ppl. Then when told they already can, he says well the CD key will be linked to the installation file (which is bullcrap- as it would mean any family with multiple users would have to install the game seperately) and then it's that they block additional login attempts from different accounts from the same computer?!
Surely that's not possible as it would have to use IP addresses no? and block nearly anyone using multiple computers in any household, multiboxing or not from playing the game more then one at a time. No LAN parties ay?

at least if I understood everything correctly..

and that stuff with the registry.. do all Operating systems use those?

[Havelcek]

This is such a dumb topic. If Blizzard wanted to, they would add keyclone and all the others to Warden and we would be done. They don't need a patch or test server, or whatever.

[Ifalna]

Worried? No, annoyed? Yeah. I mean, I know the WoW forums are basically complete trash at the best of times, but it'd be nice to go a week say without some clueless turd posting about his/her views against multiboxing.Let them , they are shooting themsevles in the foot, and making us look better ;)

Were not the only ones who see them as clueless turds at this point hehe :D

[rarr]

The thing that gets my goat everytime I read one of those posts is that they obviously havn't tried it.

"cheaters!"

Isn't cheating supposed to make things easier? Last time I checked multiboxing is harder is most cases.

[-silencer-]

Isn't cheating supposed to make things easier? Last time I checked multiboxing is harder is most cases.
Are you multiboxing the same WoW I am? I find it incredibly easier to run my own instances, guaranteeing loot is given out to the best advantage of the team. There's no wasted time trying to get groups or schedule WoW time with friends, but most importantly, no communication is needed to make sure the team operates most effectively.

Now, there are other games where I could see multiboxing making life more difficult, like Age of Conan.

[krum]

Surely that's not possible as it would have to use IP addresses no?No. With NAT, any number of computers can share the same IP address. If you want a reasonably decent way of identifying a particular computer you might use the MAC address of the outbound Ethernet adapter, and of course that's not foolproof.

[Vyndree]

It's just a poor kid who's trying to repair his epeen.


Are you blizzard? Do you know how they are going to implement it into the new hack/3rd party software detection that will be used in WoTLK ? They also might be linking your cd-key to your login.. meaning you can only login to the account that used the cd-key you installed the game with.. so to run another account you would have to modify your registery.. which would let you then access that other accounts, but not the account you just changed the info from. Read up on it.. Lots of changes in the works.

What about the people who installed via the online download?

The "facts" he's spewing out are pretty unlikely. Besides, he's assuming ALL multiboxers use 3rd party software -- therefore it would take more than warden to "ban multiboxers".

If blizzard really wanted to ban multiboxing, they wouldn't have to jump through hoops with assigning your wow install to your cd key (lawl?), changing warden to sniff out software multiboxing solutions, or whatnot. They could either a) remove /follow -- or b) add "no multiboxing" to the Terms of Use. Those are both much cheaper solutions for them to implement.

Besides, from the activity in the customer service forum (did you remember to hug Belfaire today?), the blues aren't hinting that multiboxing is going away anytime soon.

[Sarduci]

this guy went all Gilligan on the SS Failboat.



Great. Now I have to clean coca~cola off my monitors and keyboard. :thumbsup:I'm glad I'm not the only one who had to do that.../forum/images/smilies/tongue.png

[Catamer]

We are starting to make a name for ourselves and I would love to move to a mboxing server to get away from the QQ.

[Ðeceased]

Are you multiboxing the same WoW I am? I find it incredibly easier to run my own instances, guaranteeing loot is given out to the best advantage of the team. There's no wasted time trying to get groups or schedule WoW time with friends, but most importantly, no communication is needed to make sure the team operates most effectively.

Now, there are other games where I could see multiboxing making life more difficult, like Age of Conan.

ah yes :) but the distinction lies in ease of character control and ability to reach a goal/orwhatnot.

So it definitely is a lot lot easier to control one character vs multiple. But ur right, attaining something is so much simpler when m-boxing :)

[Hat]

Just laugh at him and move on.
His argument has sooo many holes that it isn't worthy paying attention to.

[Tonuss]

It's not going to happen.. for one simple reason:
Money.Sorry to come into this a bit late, but that isn't the reason they won't disallow it. When Blizzard reps tell you that the company line is that they do not find anything wrong with it and that they consider it to be a legitimate way to play the game, they're being honest with you. Remember, multiboxing has ALWAYS been allowed in every MMORPG out there. I don't think that any developer has specifically designed their game to allow it, but they have no problem with it. This is what many anti-MBers do not understand. This is not an area where Blizzard feels unsure and wants to see what the player base thinks about it. This is exactly like their stance on PvE-to-PvP transfers, where they have taken a very clear line and they have not been ambiguous about it, even in the face of considerable protest.

There are simply some issues where Blizzard knows exactly what they want. Multiboxing is one of them. There is no way they'd cop the attitude they have otherwise. You must have seen how snarky they are getting lately when dealing with multiboxing threads. Mostly they ignore them, but a couple of times they have moved them to the customer service forum, made a snide remark, and locked the thread. The point is very clear-- Blizzard does not see multiboxing as any sort of problem. They consider it a valid way to play the game that does not violate the terms of use, concepts of fair play, or the spirit of the game. Period.

As for the guy claiming that he had inside knowledge that multiboxing would be removed in WotLK, it is another bitter anti-MBer who is trying anything he can to rile people up. They have come to realize that their arguments against multiboxing have failed, and their attempts at flaming multiboxers have failed, so now one of them decided to try and annoy or scare people by claiming that it would be removed. It won't. While Blizzard reps always make sure to say that nothing is 100% written in stone, I have no worries whatsoever that they will ever removed multiboxing from WoW. None. The crybabies will shed oceans full of tears along the way, and we will continue to multibox just as well as we please.

[merujo]

Besides, from the activity in the customer service forum (did you remember to hug Belfaire today?), the blues aren't hinting that multiboxing is going away anytime soon.

My only reponse to this is:

A) The hunter ghost wolf fiasco. They specifically said "We won't change it, its fine!" - then flipped 180 degrees and changed it anyway.
B) The new brewfest fiasco. Last year horde got Rams, cross faction mounts. This year they can't, and Alliance can't get the Kodos. Another 180 flip on something they previously said was ok.

u don't wanna compare such things with mb'ing... lol. those are little things compared to the income they get from us. besides a pet and a mount, what else has blizzard reversed ?
ofc u gotta be prepared for anything anyways, but mbing is on another level by now.

[merujo]

Besides, from the activity in the customer service forum (did you remember to hug Belfaire today?), the blues aren't hinting that multiboxing is going away anytime soon.

My only reponse to this is:

A) The hunter ghost wolf fiasco. They specifically said "We won't change it, its fine!" - then flipped 180 degrees and changed it anyway.
B) The new brewfest fiasco. Last year horde got Rams, cross faction mounts. This year they can't, and Alliance can't get the Kodos. Another 180 flip on something they previously said was ok.

u don't wanna compare such things with mb'ing... lol. those are little things compared to the income they get from us. besides a pet and a mount, what else has blizzard reversed ?
ofc u gotta be prepared for anything anyways, but mbing is on another level by now.

Please don't even think MB'ing "income" is significant to Blizzard. We are but a "drop in the bucket" compared to the entire player based. Less than 0.5% I'd bet.

So will blizzard ban MB for the 0.01% of players that whine about us ? :)

[beelzbub]

I have a friend who is a GM so I asked him about this whole multi boxing being removed business. Here is what he said. "I haven't heard anything about it being removed, and I doubt Blizzard will be changing it's TOS anytime soon, particularly over something like this. And if Blizzard did decide to all of a sudden change their policy on it, they wouldn't put out a patch note saying 'blah blah upcoming patch no more multi-boxing' they would make it an immediate change and disallow it before a patch even came out. As far as the client being different I don't know anything about how the messaging system works so that may be true, but it isn't a deliberate attempt on Blizzard's part to hurt multi-boxers."

So basically, if Blizzard wants to kill us they would have done so already. And to be honest I think they like us because we are players taking WoW to another level. My GM buddy told me that if any multiboxers enter an arena a GM is required to watch and they get a kick out of it. So next time your 5v5 team is kicking ass don't be surprised to come out and all your toons start turning into cows or grub worms :P

[kura]

I have a friend who is a GM so I asked him about this whole multi boxing being removed business. Here is what he said. "I haven't heard anything about it being removed, and I doubt Blizzard will be changing it's TOS anytime soon, particularly over something like this. And if Blizzard did decide to all of a sudden change their policy on it, they wouldn't put out a patch note saying 'blah blah upcoming patch no more multi-boxing' they would make it an immediate change and disallow it before a patch even came out. As far as the client being different I don't know anything about how the messaging system works so that may be true, but it isn't a deliberate attempt on Blizzard's part to hurt multi-boxers."

So basically, if Blizzard wants to kill us they would have done so already. And to be honest I think they like us because we are players taking WoW to another level. My GM buddy told me that if any multiboxers enter an arena a GM is required to watch and they get a kick out of it. So next time your 5v5 team is kicking ass don't be surprised to come out and all your toons start turning into cows or grub worms :PSmells like you pulled that out of your ass. If a GM was "required" to watch every time a boxer went into arena... hah. I live next to the Blizzard corporate building in Irvine.. literally a mile or two away - maybe I should walk in and start asking their front desk lady about her thoughts on multiboxing. I'm sure she'd have a more legit statement than you.

[Vyndree]

My GM buddy told me that if any multiboxers enter an arena a GM is required to watch and they get a kick out of it.

Ooo, really?

I wonder if it explains that time I kept getting queued up against the same team that kicked my butt repeatedly. >.< And then only let 4 of my 5 shammies into the arena against the same team for another loss.

That really sucked.


Heh, I don't know if they're required to watch but it would definitely explain the random GM ticket queue times that are sometimes 1 hour long and sometimes 4-5 hours long. >.<

[Otlecs]

My GM buddy told me that if any multiboxers enter an arena a GM is required to watch
Either this is a misunderstanding of what your buddy actually said, or there are different guidelines for EU GMs compared to USA GMs. Or your buddy simply got it wrong.

I don't doubt that some (most?) get a kick out of warching multiboxers in action, but there's absolutely no requirement (at least in Europe) for ANY arena match to be manually supervised in any way, shape or form.

I keep hoping this thread will just disappear in the noise, but it keeps popping up again. As others have observed, the single quickest way to kill multiboxing would be for Bliz to say "it's not allowed".

Most of us would stop immediately.

[Shiena]

Actually what this guy is saying has credibility if the WotLK client (or a newer version of any client) uses DirectInput instead of Windows messages for keyboard and mouse input. If this is the case then the current crop of multiboxing tools that use windows messages to pass input events into the different windows will in fact quit working.
As the WotLK client is now using DirectInput, Multiboxing could actually become much easier. DirectInput would allow software to write both keyboard and mouse hooks, so we could e.g. have a key and mouse clone application that allows us to use even mouse movements and clicks in all WoW clients running on one system. This is pretty nice actually.

Also note that the current EULA and ToS for the WotLK client shows no indication of a change regarding the 3rd party clause against applications that modify the client. There is no mention of anything like keyboard or mouse broadcasting, etc.