2267 5v5, should I stop or try for higher?

[Ellay]

Looking for some input! :) Arenajunkies.com shows that the top 31 Teams from my battlegroup will get Gladiator title this season with the cutoff being 2235, at the current rating of 2267 it puts me tied at 21st. At the end of any season though it's notorious for a bunch of teams to make a big push at the last minute to obtain their goals. Is it worth the risk of trying to obtain higher or sit on it and see what happens? :)

[neux]

GO for Merciless Nether Drake ('http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34092') XD

[edit] if you can go higher and confident you can, the do it, if not so much and there really some big risk involved...
those are your characters and your team, only you can decide that =)

[Tasty]

Go for gold son.




So very very cheesy :P


But seriously Do what you want cause a PvPer is free. You are a PvPer

[Vyndree]

There's really no reason to sit on the rating -- you should be arena point capped for next season already, right?

Just go for it, have fun. If it happens, cool. If it doesn't -- well at least you can say that you tried :)

Best of luck! Kick some butt!

[Kayley]

^ why sit on it? go for it!
(I'm agreeing with above)

[entoptic]

GO GO BUFFALO!!!!! :thumbsup:

[chris916]

I 100% say go for it. I have faith in you!

[Chorizotarian]

Why is there no option for "go and make movies"? :)

[Diamndzngunz]

you just want to show off.. Mmm Mmm ;)


GO FOR IT MAN

[Qlimax]

Confusing pole =P, title asks one question, the pole asks the counter. I say make the push for it. PUSH THOSE OTHERS TO THE GROUND, besides if you dont get gladiator, then we wont have the fun of replying to more qq threads of 2 people getting gladiator in 5s bracket.

[cepheus]

Well, it is a risk either way, but if you want my risk assessment, I think that the highest teams usually will just switch places in their desperate attempts to gain higher rating.If some team gains rating, some other team will lose rating.

Personally if I was 21 of 31 I would just have gambeled that was good enough and sit on my rating, but as everyone else says, only you can decide :)

One way or another, it is an incredible result you have achived with your shamans.

[Sun]

to be that high already means you got the skills down pat...i say goforit..not too many teams that can beat you to knock you down.

ooo...btw...if you make battle pics of what you do...please make them only available to dualbox users and not to the general public.

[Havelcek]

I would sit on it, but that's just me.

[Skuggomann]

If you get Merciless Nether Drake (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34092) x4 i will personally send you a pic of my erect penus!

[Shiena]

Try getting higher rated. If your realm is like mine, you will see some heavy trials of the top 30 teams to push their rating up in the last remaining days before season four arrives. Go for it, and prove that solo really is the new gimp *grin*

[Icetech]

Confusing pole =P, title asks one question, the pole asks the counter. I say make the push for it. PUSH THOSE OTHERS TO THE GROUND, besides if you dont get gladiator, then we wont have the fun of replying to more qq threads of 2 people getting gladiator in 5s bracket.

I can understand your confusion as you think its a pole, when its a poll :) this is not something you pay women to dance around...

Sorry had to:)

[Ellay]

The problem I have faced the last 2 evenings is the only teams in the 2200+ rating playing are 4 DPS, the entire team has Gladiator or Merciless Gladiator titles so they are no easy feat. It's almost down to a 50/50 chance on winning with me squeezing out a few more wins than losses. I guess I'll try some more games tonight, hopefully I guess some easier teams :)

Prior to this week I think I was 80-5 or something juicy, now my record is 115-22 so it's definitely been a run for the money!

[raz]

Speaking from last night's experience I personally would sit on it. My team (my wife plays our healer on her shammy) was at one point vying for the Rival title at ~1740 or so in our battlegroup according to the estimates and we decided to go fir a bit higher. We're now at 1614 after a run of really well coordinated teams 4 of which had us dead in ~10-12 seconds, lol. The better teams are definitely out these last few days.

[Tonuss]

The problem I have faced the last 2 evenings is the only teams in the 2200+ rating playing are 4 DPS, the entire team has Gladiator or Merciless Gladiator titles so they are no easy feat. It's almost down to a 50/50 chance on winning with me squeezing out a few more wins than losses. I guess I'll try some more games tonight, hopefully I guess some easier teams :)

Prior to this week I think I was 80-5 or something juicy, now my record is 115-22 so it's definitely been a run for the money!Is the title something that you really want to get, or one of those "it'd be pretty cool if I can get it" deals? If it's important to try and get it, then it comes down to what you describe, ie- do you feel that you'd get crowded out of the top if you sat on your rating? If it's not important, then I'd say go out with guns blazing.

[Ellay]

It would be awesome to have, and at the same time it doesn't have to happen. Sort of sitting on the fence but the 310% speed mounts sounds yummy.

[Groovy]

I think you should aim for #1

[Lyonheart]

Go for it !! i pushed hard for 1350 rating !!! ok.. thats dumb but anyways 8(

[Kayley]

2203 or something like that is the gladiator cut-off right? :O
Again, no point sitting on it.. take a shot!

[Icetech]

update?

[Ellay]

My healer never logged on this evening, and I was out for most of it. Gotta pack to go to LA tomorrow :( so looks like I sat on it. Poo

[Alemi]

My healer never logged on this evening, and I was out for most of it. Gotta pack to go to LA tomorrow :( so looks like I sat on it. PooIt's hotter than hell here, so I suggest delaying the trip and just arena'ing until you get #1.

I jest. :) Grats on that rating tho, that's impressive.

[zanthor]

If you get Merciless Nether Drake x4 i will personally send you a pic of my erect penus!

This would cause me to stop PVPing right there...

[Ellay]

As of the last armory update, I'm tied for 23rd place now, looks like a ton of teams made a push like I was thinking right at the tail end but the top 30 are getting the title so.. as long as nothing crazy happened from 11:45 to 6 am I should be ok :)

[doc]

Good Luck Ellay.. I think you'll make it.. :thumbsup:

[cepheus]

I'll think you will be okay too.

Good luck :D

[Majo]

Personally I think you made a good choice, Ellay. As if it weren't hard enough to get the top teams to queue up, at the end of the season I think that the teams on the borderline of glad do make a push, but most of the teams that surely earned the glad already are just sitting on their rating. Arena Junkies isn't always too accurate, espcially when compensating for the last minute pushes people make, so I feel you got enough rating to comfortably decide to stop and collect your glad title.

There's always next season if you want to make a serious push. If I were you I'd collect my glad title for S3, though, rather than risk dropping. (at that rating, I think 2 losses would have dropped you far enough to loes glad title. Possibly just 1 loss if the push ups the bar.) In season 2 Arena Junkies said gladiator for 2v2's was 2260 rating, so I pushed for 2300 and ended at 2297. The cutoff for glad ended up actually being 2290, so I barely inked by.

[Tonuss]

My healer never logged on this evening, and I was out for most of it. Gotta pack to go to LA tomorrow :( so looks like I sat on it. PooYou are going to lose your membership in the multiboxing club if people think that you actually have a life! :)

[Icetech]

Ellay, i was looking at your build, what is the reasoning behind no totems of wrath?

[Xar]

I switched my 5 shammies to have Nature's Swiftness too and it's awesome for BG's, instant 5 critting Chain Lightnings + trinket power. Plus many times when I get the other side up on me I'm dropping magma totems anyway so no wraths. I miss them though and when I go back to doing dungeons I'm respeccing to have wraths.

[Vyndree]

Ellay, i was looking at your build, what is the reasoning behind no totems of wrath?

ToW > standard sustained DPS > NS

ToW < Resilience
NS > Resilience


What is better for PvP?

ToW < Resilience < NS

Totem of wrath helps for shaman mana/longevity and for sustained DPS. However, PvP isn't about sustained dps -- it's about burst -- and it comes with resilience, which lowers the amount of added dps a ToW brings.
When you start stacking elemental shaman, it's your choice. Just remember that your NS can also be used for an emergency heal if it hasn't already been used for burst damage.

[Icetech]

Thanks vynd, thought of that right after i posted:)

[Vyndree]

Thanks vynd, thought of that right after i posted:)

I've seen theorycraft on stacked ToW in PvP I just haven't heard much else after that. I think the fact that it takes up a spot that you could use for fire nova totems on melee or searing for minor pressure is another downside, sadly.

As a solo shaman prior to multiboxing, I can say that ToW is not very appreciated by the shaman community. :P Sucky 41-pointer.

[Icetech]

Yeah, i had thought of the fact that even if you threw up TOW you would drop it 10 seconds later for nova's anyway.. i will prolly respec like that when i hit 70 and start my pvp dominance!

[cepheus]

I respec my shamans allmost every week.

I use 41/0/20 when raiding and 40/0/21 when I'm pvping. There is also a few other talents I would switch out when I do pve. Like imp. reinc,manaregen etc.

But Ellay:

How did it go? :D

[yarr]

ToW cannot compare to NS in pvp. Theorycrafting aside, there is just too much tactical value in 3( in my case) or 4 (in aellie's case) instant-cast chain lightnings or lightning bolts simultaneously shooting at the enemy.

[Boylston]

As the author of some of the theorycrafting work (search and you'll find it), I'll chime in here.

You can safely ignore all the discussions about higher sustained DPS, burst, or the ability for ToWs to "cut through" resilience. All good points of analysis, but the real problem is that you will be using Fire Nova totems in arena in almost every fight. Once that happens, you have to either waste a precious GCD to reapply ToWs, or you get NO benefit.

Hold out for WotLK, and you can get both. :)

[Ellay]

My healer says we made it ^^ Sounds like I need to go out in LA and celebrate :) We get the titles/mounts next week so expect lots of Screenshots. I won't be swapping teams or healers this season so expect me being #1 !! Hoorah!

[Jaws5]

My healer says we made it ^^ Sounds like I need to go out in LA and celebrate :) We get the titles/mounts next week so expect lots of Screenshots. I won't be swapping teams or healers this season so expect me being #1 !! Hoorah!

Grats and well done. Now try that with 4 mages, 4 druids, 4 hunters, etc.


Hats off to you and your healer, it lets know know that this is doable with a 4 boxer

[Hokusai]

Gratz, that's great news, looking forward to the screens

[Lyonheart]

My healer says we made it ^^ Sounds like I need to go out in LA and celebrate :) We get the titles/mounts next week so expect lots of Screenshots. I won't be swapping teams or healers this season so expect me being #1 !! Hoorah!

Grats and well done. Now try that with 4 mages, 4 druids, 4 hunters, etc.


Hats off to you and your healer, it lets know know that this is doable with a 4 boxer

Well not just ANY 4 boxers.. trust me.. what he is doing is all skill and less about 4 boxing 4 shaman. There are TONs of 4 box shaman teams that are no where near his rating but have close to if not equal, gear. AND he is on the toughest battle group out of ALL the battle groups.

Here is a little fact that most people don't comprehend. If you are a suck ass player playing ONE character at a time you will suck worse playing multi characters. IF you are GOOD playing one character, you still might suck at playing more then one. Being able to multi box gives SKILLED players an advantage of focus firring.. but it takes more then just smashing LB,LB,LB,CL to win and get high in arenas.

[Ellay]

I'm actually pretty bad at playing 1 Shaman :) but.. I've never had to play just 1 except in a few scenario's. Multi-boxing is a whole new level and it just takes time and practice. I've been doing it in WoW since the release. I may of been the first to hit the ratings I'm at now, but without a doubt there is many others here who will also do the same :)

[Lyonheart]

I'm actually pretty bad at playing 1 Shaman :) but.. I've never had to play just 1 except in a few scenario's. Multi-boxing is a whole new level and it just takes time and practice. I've been doing it in WoW since the release. I may of been the first to hit the ratings I'm at now, but without a doubt there is many others here who will also do the same :)

So humble!

[Skuggomann]

I won't be swapping teams or healers this season so expect me being #1 !! Hoorah!

Remember to name the team somting ultracool then! :)








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