Setup of Keyclone between 2 pc's

[Greenthumbs]

Hi ive been searching for a thread with this info but ive come up empty handed im just looking for some info to setup 2 computers with keyclone to run a 2box 2 man multibox 2x mages. Any Links to threads with this info or any info would be great thanks.

[keyclone]

setup each keyclone as you normally would... commands, dnp, maximizer, whatever... run your wows...

then type the ip:port into the command box to the right of the 'connect' button on the main screen.

then hit connect

[philal]

why this is not free =(

[keyclone]

why isn't everything free !!

[Greenthumbs]

Cheers ill give it a try thanks

[Chrysanthe]

why this is not free =(Cuz you already get free support!

[Quarto]

I just purchased my 2nd keyclone tonight (damn good program). Easy to get working, open em both up and you will notice the ip address including port on the top of the other keyclone window. Just type that in to your main keyclone window, hit connect, and ya got it going.

I've boxed on feathermoon (Horde) for as long as I can remember. 2-3 boxes max, all on different computers. Could not stand the alt-tabbing involved with one computer. Since I picked up Keyclone last week, ive added 2 more accounts and just using 2 computers. Never ran 5 accounts in any game before and I cant believe how easy Keyclone makes it.

Why isnt it free? Because its worth it!

[Greenthumbs]

Wait i havent tested this yet but do i need to purchase this program twice to install it on 2 pc's?

[keyclone]

yes, it is node locked to the machine (how else would i know your machines from your buddies)
there is a FAQ: http://solidice.com/keyclone/faq.html

i try to explain the normal questions (although, i really need to do something with the website... i've spent my time on giving updates...)

of course, there is no limit to the number of wows on a single machine... the limitation is your hardware.
before keyclone, hardware multiboxing is all you had... and that was very pricey

[Otlecs]

>why isn't everything free !!

Best comeback of the year so far ;) Nice one.

[Greenthumbs]

damm i didnt realise this not sure what im gonna do now dont got the money to buy another keyclone so much for muliboxin for now i guess.

[Draku]

Try Hotkeynet......Totally Free at the moment, when/if it is charged, I 'believe' it will be one license for as many machines as you want (Freddie should confirm though) http://www.hotkeynet.com/p/download.html

[Zzyzxx71]

why this is not free =(

If you can afford (minimum) 2 x wow subs, you can afford $20 ONCE.

[Vyndree]

why this is not free =(

why isn't everything free !!

Totally Free at the moment, when/if it is charged, I 'believe' it will be one license for as many machines as you want (Freddie should confirm though)

If you can afford (minimum) 2 x wow subs, you can afford $20 ONCE.
My thread synopsis. ;)



There are NO totally free options for multiboxing -- in the end you will still be paying around $15/month per account, paying to purchase your computer, the electricity to run the computer, the internet to connect to WoW.... you get the picture.

However, there ARE a few free software options out there -- check on the wiki ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Software'). Note, however, that some programs were not developed with World of Warcraft in mind, so you will have to do some research into the rules regarding automation ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/GM_Conversations#Defining_Automation') to make sure you won't get banned for misusing them. Furthermore, remember that when you pay to purchase a program, you are supporting the developer, who in turn supports you.

There is a reason for keyclone's popularity (which is why I assume you asked for it) despite it being a paid program -- take a look at keyclone's post history ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?form=Search&userID=774&') and you can see that he's been very active in supporting his product even before I came here.

In any case, if you want keyclone you will have to pay for it. But, as I always say -- you get what you pay for.

[Draku]

:)

[Gaffy]

Why isnt it free? Because its worth it!

QFT
That right there says it all.

[Draku]

Oh....some points worth noting if you are considering HotkeyNet.....

Freddie's support is really really great ...he is patient and very accomodating .....

Checkout his World Of Warcraft quick start guide....it needs fleshing out....but hey, you could help. http://www.hotkeynet.com/wow/wow-quick-start.html
It even has a section that advises you which features might be considered bad form for WoW

One thing you learn as you get older (there aren't many advantages)...money isn't everything.....even big companies recognise that money is not the best way to retain the best staff....Having said that....I of course recognise programmers have to eat!



:P :P

[Vyndree]

There are NO totally free options for multiboxing -- in the end you will still be paying around $15/month per account, paying to purchase your computer, the electricity to run the computer, the internet to connect to WoW.... you get the picture.

One flaw here...

Never forget there are far too many kiddies playing WoW (and other games) with thier parents paying for thier entire lives. Absolutely zero concept of money / income / supporting themselves. And when I say kiddies, I mean there are also college "kids" in thier 20s that fall into this catagory as well. /sigh

Then their parents can also afford a software multiboxing solution.

Honestly, kids these days... I spent my college eating tuna, ramen, and a jar of peanut butter. Sheesh! ;)

[keyclone]

One thing you learn as you get older (there aren't many advantages)...money isn't everything.....even big companies recognise that money is not the best way to retain the best staff....Having said that....I of course recognise programmers have to eat!so.. let me see if i get this right. you work hard through high school... study, long hours pounding code... to better prepare for college... get to college, which charges an arm & a leg since you'd rather not be in state school... study harder... working 2 or 3 jobs to pay the bills... then get out of college, with a debt load of $100k or more unless mommy & daddy were paying for it... and get a job. at which point, the business weenie across the desk will do everything he can to get your skills at a lower cost... finding the balancing point that YOU will accept in order for HIM to get his position filled.

then.. you get married.. get a house... a car.. kids.. clothes, food, insurances, dental bills.. and then ... college.. AGAIN.. but this time not just for 1 (yourself) but for each of your kids (unless they have a set and work to pay for it or get lucky and get a ride)

now, at what point in this scenario would money become unimportant? hmm... i know, just after you pick up that pre-scratched winning lottery ticket (or your employer gets bought out with you holding equity... which you would only have if you cared about compensation)

seriously, take a swig of some strong coffee and look at the world without the rosey filters. the employers that 'realize' there is more to attract people then $$.. are the ones looking to ship development offshore or hire straight out of college when the people are really still kids and don't have a debt load yet.


:thumbdown:
oh.. and i'm pretty sure Ellay wouldn't be too happy about trying to siphon people to another site.
this site is about building the community... siphoning members would be an attempt to splinter it, and that is definitely discouraged (or stronger)

[Draku]

'this site is about building the community... siphoning members would be an attempt to splinter it, and that is definitely discouraged (or stronger) '

Shit....really? I am really sorry....I didn't think you wanted support on here.......

I will edit the post now....sorry again

And regarding the money points...you clearly aren't old enough yet.... :P :P

[Draku]

Ok...I have left in the link to the quick start guide....is that ok?


Perhaps Freddie would post that here....then I wouldn't have to point them away.

[Draku]

the employers that 'realize' there is more to attract people then $$.. are the ones looking to ship development offshore or hire straight out of college when the people are really still kids and don't have a debt load yet.

And that is a bad business plan is it? QUite frankly the whole IT industry has failed to turn itself into a real discipline over the last 20 years......now they are being dragged kicking and screaming into reality by a bunch of guys who are trying to catch up 20 years in 5 years.


Is it bad for the kids out of college??....I can think of examples of companies that provide great training and turn out excellent resources....some move on to earn big bucks elsewhere, some stay and earn big bucks and some stay and enjoy their jobs,,,,

That coffee tastes great....and you know what.....it isn't even Starbucks ;) ;) ;) ;)

[keyclone]

yup... brilliant... it's all because the IT industry was undisciplined.. yea.. sure.. you betcha. it would have nothing to do with the fact that you can get mid-level people doing 60 hrs/week for $500/month ($200-350/month if you go to the pacrim) (and yes.. i know these numbers from personal experience)

i guess all those other industries were undisciplined as well... textiles, steel, ee, accounting, bio-chem research... yup.. all undisciplined.

please, how long do i have to play stupid. the only reason these industries are shipping offshore is cost. if a person from India cost 3 times as much as an American, the employer would work with the American. don't think so? then ask yourself.. why aren't we pulling people from switzerland or germany? (specialists excluded)

as for the kids out of college today.. graduation rates in the IT section are dropping, and have been since 2000 when the H1B bills were pushed through. in 2000, there were just over 5m US IT workers. today, that number is around 1.5m. there are plenty of people here, they just cost more then $500/month.

as for not being old enough.. ?? ... older then kids through college would be .. roughly.. 60s?? yea, at that point.. money beyond the bills is less important then remembering where you left your teeth :D

[Draku]

please, how long do i have to play stupid. the only reason these industries are shipping offshore is cost. if a person from India cost 3 times as much as an American, the employer would work with the American. don't think so? then ask yourself.. why aren't we pulling people from switzerland or germany? (specialists excluded

You think cost should have nothing to do with it? hey wait a minute.....I thought that was my line!!!!

Now where the hell are my teeth....... :) :) :)

PS..
We've hijacked this thread a bit......as fun as it is....I will stop the hijack......feel free to have the last word

[Greenthumbs]

Lol Thread just went crazy i was gone for a day and come back. Hey keyclone so the only option for me is to purchase another copy of your software for 2 computer's ive allready told you it is excellent software but thats really expensive 42$ to get keyclone working is there a way to just getit working on 2 computer without purchasing 2 cause right now im stuck and have no use for the 1 copy i have now. Kinda out 20 $ atm. I Never seen anywhere listed when i purchased it saying that i needed 2 copies. =(

[keyclone]

it would be $39.98 ... and the FAQ on Solid ICE does talk about keyclone being node-locked (why else would there be system-ids?)

[Greenthumbs]

I sent you a Pm =S

[Greenthumbs]

There are NO totally free options for multiboxing -- in the end you will still be paying around $15/month per account, paying to purchase your computer, the electricity to run the computer, the internet to connect to WoW.... you get the picture.



One flaw here...

Never forget there are far too many kiddies playing WoW (and other games) with thier parents paying for thier entire lives. Absolutely zero concept of money / income / supporting themselves. And when I say kiddies, I mean there are also college "kids" in thier 20s that fall into this catagory as well. /sigh



BTW IM in College and i have a great Concept of money. I know how to support myself better then you ever would So dont Poke at a student or students When oviously you havent been in this situation. In this day and age with the tuition cost's we have more of a concept of how much money is worth and how much the older generation has screwed this world loyaly. So next time you would like to comment on college people In thier 20's think about how much You Im geussing (Older) have made it harder for Us.

Thanks im done =)

[Draku]

Hey......Just to say.....I am old....and I certainly do not jump to conclusions regarding Students. The comments regarding money on this forum are not the strongest. It does however have good stuff about multi-boxing if you take care to sort the facts from the opinions (which is not always easy). The stuff about life and money is very entertaining though


As in the rest of life there are good/bad/stupid/rude/arrogant/nice/helpful /lazy/hardworking/arrogant/rude people......

Oh.....did I say arrogant and rude twice....oops sorry :P :P

[gbremset]

I'm using AutoHotKey at the moment, and the scripting needed to get the key cloning to work smoothly is a pain. I've stopped in the middle of the script now, only adding keys as I need them. (With my current script, which was the best wow script I could find to work with, chatting is also a pain. :P )
I'm definitely buying Keyclone as soon as I get paid, as everything I've read about it appears to be straight up my alley.. But even so, I would love a free trial first..Only a few days to see how it works, and to see if it actually is what I want/need.
I understand however, that creating free trials are tricky, and makes keyclone easily hackable, so all respect for that, and expect a customer soon. :)

Keyclone: How does KC handle chatting?

[keyclone]

@gbremset,

chatting is pretty simple. there is an override hotkey (default is PAUSE) you can set that, when activated, will stop keyclone from passing any keys. so.. when you want to chat... you'd hit PAUSE ... chat normally... then PAUSE again to toggle keyclone back on.

there is a moveable popup box that will remind you that keyclone is in override.
there is also an audio reminder you can enable under settings (this has saved me a few times)

if you have any other questions, please feel free to drop me a note.

have a great day,

Rob