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Talamarr
06-17-2008, 02:58 PM
I see a lot of threads from new multi-box users asking how is XYZ class combination for multi-boxing and I wanted to throw something out there for consideration.

For 2-boxing, there are 45 different class combinations
3-boxing, 165 class combinations
4-boxing, 495 class combinations
5-boxing, 1287 class combinations.

That doesn't even take talent tree focus into account. If you do, then for 5 boxing,
169,911 possible class and talent tree combinations!

My suggestion, try whatever you are considering and post your experiences here. Read about others experiences. Experimenting is a large part of multi-boxing, in my opinion.

I can only think of maybe two rules of thumb
1. Focus on DPS specs/classes for leveling and quest grinding
2. A healer and rezzer in your group will make things much easier

Outside of that, go play, experiment and let us know how it goes :D

EDITED: to fix my math

Frosty
06-17-2008, 03:07 PM
NOOOOoooo!!! Please, help!! I need someone to think for me!!! :P

Gurblash
06-17-2008, 03:11 PM
... THATS OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trama
06-17-2008, 03:11 PM
I agree 100% with this, but its also human nature to draw on the experiences of others. For example, say I want to go with a 5 box rogue team. Possible? Sure. Full of issues and concerns and problems? For sure.

Maybe there is someone that has done it already and can tell me ahead of time what I will face. Maybe someone can spare me the pain and point me in the right direction. I think that is really what people are looking for when they post those threads. They might not ask their questions in that way, but most people just want some assurance that they have chosen a viable combo.

Talamarr
06-17-2008, 03:20 PM
I agree 100% with this, but its also human nature to draw on the experiences of others. For example, say I want to go with a 5 box rogue team. Possible? Sure. Full of issues and concerns and problems? For sure.

Maybe there is someone that has done it already and can tell me ahead of time what I will face. Maybe someone can spare me the pain and point me in the right direction. I think that is really what people are looking for when they post those threads. They might not ask their questions in that way, but most people just want some assurance that they have chosen a viable combo.

That's fair. But, you would have to assume that the people wanting to mulit-box had some basic knowlege of wow classes and mechanics.

It seems like it would better for said person to post, "Hey, I tried out 5 rogues and here are the problems I ran into..." That seems a much better way to get help. Personally, I like reading about what people tried and their success and failures instead of theory-crafting what may happen so maybe I'm just selfish like that :D

GO HOKIES btw ;)

Gurblash
06-17-2008, 03:23 PM
Personally, I like reading about what people tried and their success and failures instead of theory-crafting what may happen

I agree completly. I'd be much more inclined to help someone who's already done some work on their own. Makes it easier to help them refine their situation into a workable one. Theory Craft only goes so far... You can do all the work on paper you want, but until you apply it you won't know if its gonna be garbage or not.

JoeWunsch
06-17-2008, 03:51 PM
I agree 100% with this, but its also human nature to draw on the experiences of others. For example, say I want to go with a 5 box rogue team. Possible? Sure. Full of issues and concerns and problems? For sure.

Maybe there is someone that has done it already and can tell me ahead of time what I will face. Maybe someone can spare me the pain and point me in the right direction. I think that is really what people are looking for when they post those threads. They might not ask their questions in that way, but most people just want some assurance that they have chosen a viable combo.I have a 5X rogue team although only in the 30's.

Think about how great it will be at higher level though, you see a full alliance group ahead.

Target the warlock, 5X shadowstep, 2 shot him -- then vanish. While the other 4 turn around and try to figure out what is going on, you wait for vanish to come off cooldown to repeat on the next member.

Ohh this seems like such fun lol.

At 70 it would almost be impossible to die, cloak of win + sprint.

Frosty
06-17-2008, 03:54 PM
I agree 100% with this, but its also human nature to draw on the experiences of others. For example, say I want to go with a 5 box rogue team. Possible? Sure. Full of issues and concerns and problems? For sure.

Maybe there is someone that has done it already and can tell me ahead of time what I will face. Maybe someone can spare me the pain and point me in the right direction. I think that is really what people are looking for when they post those threads. They might not ask their questions in that way, but most people just want some assurance that they have chosen a viable combo.I have a 5X rogue team although only in the 30's.

Think about how great it will be at higher level though, you see a full alliance group ahead.

Target the warlock, 5X shadowstep, 2 shot him -- then vanish. While the other 4 turn around and try to figure out what is going on, you wait for vanish to come off cooldown to repeat on the next member.

Ohh this seems like such fun lol.

At 70 it would almost be impossible to die, cloak of win + sprint.
You are facing the wrong way
You are facing the wrong way
You are facing the wrong way


:whistling:

Gurblash
06-17-2008, 03:56 PM
You are facing the wrong way

YOU TARGET IS NOT CLOSE ENOUGH

Gurblash
06-17-2008, 04:19 PM
Man I got that shit "you are not close enough" SOLO rogue. Most annoying thing ever.

Gurblash
06-17-2008, 04:28 PM
My point was, as a Solo rogue I had a hard time getting w/in range or a target without the use of /spring, /speed enchant, or /swiftness pots.

I couldn't imagine the stress that 5x would be... if your main can't chase them down... how are your 4 alts supposed to? ;)

Stealthy
06-17-2008, 08:52 PM
That's fair. But, you would have to assume that the people wanting to mulit-box had some basic knowlege of wow classes and mechanics.

It seems like it would better for said person to post, "Hey, I tried out 5 rogues and here are the problems I ran into..." That seems a much better way to get help. Personally, I like reading about what people tried and their success and failures instead of theory-crafting what may happen so maybe I'm just selfish like that :D

GO HOKIES btw ;)

Class mechanics for solo play and mutliboxing are totally different though. Solo shaman - not that great. Multibox shaman however are one of the best all round setups. Solo druids - great all round class, but not that strong as a multiboxed group. Multiboxing requires you to look at class choice in a totally different manner. Outside of this website, there aren't many multiboxing resources around...so it's not surprising people come here with no real idea of what they are doing, or sometimes even what they want.
The other thing is that levelling toons to 70 takes quite a significant investment of time - not many have that kind of time or inclination to try a particular combo of class to see of it works (although PTR's are a great option when they are available). Most people want a setup that they know will be viable end-game (i.e. at level 70 and beyond), so that the time invested in levelling won't be wasted. Hence class combo questions are fairly common from new or potential boxers.

Cheers,
Stealthy

Mendicant
06-18-2008, 01:52 AM
I hate to be that guy, but your math is off :)

Shaman - Mage - Shaman
is the same as
Mage - Shaman - Shaman

It goes:
For 2-boxing: 45 combos.
For 3-boxing: 165 combos.
For 4-boxing: 495 combos.
For 5-boxing: 1287 combos.

it's still a lot.

Frosty
06-18-2008, 07:40 AM
You are facing the wrong way

YOU TARGET IS NOT CLOSE ENOUGH

Enable "attack on assist" in options.

macro:

/follow (main)
/assist (main)

Problem solved. Just tap macro and alts will move back into melee range. Come on guys! You're multiboxes! Think outside the box! :PRogues are the only class I've never leveled past 10.. I just have no desire to play one. BUT I may boost one just so I have someone to open boxes...

Šeceased
06-18-2008, 08:32 AM
I hate to be that guy, but your math is off :)

Shaman - Mage - Shaman
is the same as
Mage - Shaman - Shaman


ah but then..

Shaman/Mage/Shaman == Shaman/Shaman/Mage =/= Mage/Shaman/Shaman

as we would have differentiate between Main and clones, as this drastically alters gaming style :P

but overall ur right :) class combos repeat themselves

Talamarr
06-18-2008, 10:15 AM
I hate to be that guy, but your math is off :)

Shaman - Mage - Shaman
is the same as
Mage - Shaman - Shaman

It goes:
For 2-boxing: 45 combos.
For 3-boxing: 165 combos.
For 4-boxing: 495 combos.
For 5-boxing: 1287 combos.

it's still a lot.

HAHA Yea, this hit me on the drive home from work yesterday :D

Gurblash
06-18-2008, 12:07 PM
My Power Scanners were faulty... its NOT over 9000 :(

Talamarr
06-18-2008, 01:23 PM
I corrected my orginal math and if I pulled the math out of my arse from the way-back machine correctly....

P(((group_size - 1) + #_of_classes) , group_size)
-------------------------------------------
group_size !


you can substitute #_of_classes with #_of_specs (27)