Multiboxing Mentors

[Nitro]

I think we should have a mentor list for each server/faction for people who need help learning to multibox. People learn differently than each other and have varying degrees of tolerance to learning from texts, some people need a person to talk to more than others to understand some of the more complicated aspects of multiboxing.

A total noob to multiboxing could come here and do alot of reading and get themselves up and running in a few days of intense work. On the otherhand if that same person had a mentor you can cut the education process down to just a few hours.

I am always willing to help out anyone on Arthas Server Horde side with any questions about MB, share macros, etc.

WANTED: Sticky with a list of mentors per server and faction and how to contact them

Add me to the list: Nitro aka Instagiba on Arthas server Horde side - PM me via these forums to get in touch.

[opt]

I've coached a few newbies on frostmourne, and spent the time to talk to them and go through it, and in the end they get bored after a few levels and dont continue with it, pretty dissapointing actually seeing i went out my road for them,

[Icetech]

I send people here.. i get people wanting help that wont read stickies or try to learn the basics on their own.. F em!.. lazy people make me nuts:)

[cepheus]

You need the technical skills, or atleast some will to try to obtain those technical skills on your own to have success with multiboxing.

Multiboxing isnt for everyone, and if you cant put enough time in it to make it on your own, its not worth it.

This is atleast my opinion on the matter.

[kllrwlf]

It might be better if you post where you are in the World... so that you can go over to their homes...

A holding hand program... I see too many ways it could go wrong.

To multibox, you need the technical skills for the hardware and software, need Warcraft macro knowledge, know how to do a lot of research on your own, enough funds for the computer and accounts... and lastly, not be so damn lazy that you can't even do a search and at least try to do some of it on your own.

[Moxy]

That all being said (and I agree with it) I think you can get an idea early if someone is really interested and willing to make the investment of time, energy, stress, and $ to be a sucessful boxer. I've turned alot of ppl down by saying 'go search the web for multiboxing.' There are a few that asked legitimate, respectful questions and may start boxing on their own. For these people- I am more than happy to spend my time coaching, and answering some questions. That is why I am a member of this site.

If someone wants to contact me in game- whisper Stackin on Boulderfist.

[OzPhoenix]

Well, my signature has my details.

I've already had a few people asking on Cael, most whom I've directed to here or the mb wiki. Some I never hear from again, 1 appears to be genuinely interested and I'll be willing to help him.

[Los]

Have had numerous people pass by, check it all out, ask questions, and then go away to never been seen again, I agree with above posters, try to find it yourself. Im not quitting or stopping anywhere anymore to type walls of texts, there is no outcome, no gain from it, other then constantly typing the same deal over and over and over.

[Ken]

You can't imagine how many people on a server ask how multiboxing is done when you're a multiboxer. Answering to those non-multiboxing players already takes a lot of time. But in the end you meet new people and it's fun, so I don't mind.
I don't think you'll find many willing to be someone's personal mentor, just because it requires too much time. I had someone offering me 1700g to teach him multiboxing and that was quite appealing ... right until I understood that he's a minor and not the owner of the accounts and I told him I couldn't take his gold and help him further (I won't help someone break the Terms of Use).

There's enough information available online anyway. It's not very well organized, but it's there. When people have trouble with that and want me as their personal trainer, it's gonna cost them gold :P

[hardc0re]

I thought this would probably be a really good idea. Even if you have the forum and the web ppl would always like to ask ppl in person about assistance. So why not make a Tread about players who would like to assists on each realm?
I know search function works fine but then again if you are on the same realm every one love live help :) And i doubt most ppl in this community have a problem with that.

[Nitro]

Wow, this was suppose to be a post about people who like to help out. Not about your poor attitudeds towards others ability to learn to multibox via search. I hope none of you have children, I fear for thier educations.

[Ken]

Wow, this was suppose to be a post about people who like to help out. Not about your poor attitudeds towards others ability to learn to multibox via search. I hope none of you have children, I fear for thier educations.

There's a difference between 'helping out' and 'spoon feeding'.
(and if you were referring to me, I'm actually working on a very detailed I'll-hold-your-hand-till-the-end tutorial for my new website at wow-multiboxing.com)

[edit] And just as in the real world: people are usually inclined to help, hence the forum and the many helpful replies here... but asking for a free private teacher is just not very likely to happen. It's different when it's a friend or family, but you were talking about strangers here..
If I'd be the private teacher for every starting multiboxer on my server(that talked to me), then I'd be teaching about 2 or 3 people already. That would easily mean 50+ hours of assisting and explaining things. To me that's just madness.

[edit2] So what do you think is worse for a child's development:
- spoonfeeding
- 'forcing' to show initiative to accomplish something and discover things by yourself

[Los]

[edit2] So what do you think is worse for a child's development:
- spoonfeeding
- 'forcing' to show initiative to accomplish something and discover things by yourselfthe path in the middle tbh, but the later pref ofc

and to TS, normally your children dont walk away that easilly, or just dont talk and never come online again :)

[hardc0re]

Wow, this was suppose to be a post about people who like to help out. Not about your poor attitudeds towards others ability to learn to multibox via search. I hope none of you have children, I fear for thier educations.

There's a difference between 'helping out' and 'spoon feeding'.
(and if you were referring to me, I'm actually working on a very detailed I'll-hold-your-hand-till-the-end tutorial for my new website at wow-multiboxing.com)

[edit] And just as in the real world: people are usually inclined to help, hence the forum and the many helpful replies here... but asking for a free private teacher is just not very likely to happen. It's different when it's a friend or family, but you were talking about strangers here..
If I'd be the private teacher for every starting multiboxer on my server(that talked to me), then I'd be teaching about 2 or 3 people already. That would easily mean 50+ hours of assisting and explaining things. To me that's just madness.

[edit2] So what do you think is worse for a child's development:
- spoonfeeding
- 'forcing' to show initiative to accomplish something and discover things by yourself

This was probably a tread for those who want to help others. So please keep your complains else where. I mean atleast 90% of this community is helpful and dont really care to learn others how game mechanincs works with multiboxing.
In my eyes your posts is just against helping others. I mean where would you be first time you start up your computer and install wow for first time. You dont think it would be alot better to just ask somone ingame than spending some time to set up
hkey or somthing? And common discover things by yourself. Tell me you never visited wowhead/thottbot, or even asked guild members for help with quests or ppl on msn for help with computer issue etc etc. Wich you CAN also serach on goodle for.
Give it a break man.

[Djarid]

tbh, the post was a suggestion and therefore all responses to it are valid :)

I think the idea has merit... will I participate? unlikely, I get so little time to play as it is I really would resent spending the time on others.

The exception would be someone who asked about multiboxing... came here and learned more... started doing it themselves and encountered problems... provided they can show an attempt to help themselves, I would be happy to assist

[Wilbur]

Personally I strongly dislike the idea of holding anyones to ge them Multiboxing.

If you lack the knowledge, research.
If you lack the skills, improve.

Personally I dont want to spend X hours telling someone 'exactly what to do' If people are too dumb or not technical enough, thats their problem, not ours, we've made it *rediculously* easy to Multibox. If people are *still* sturggling then I don't see the fault being ours, but instead theirs.

For the record I dont think children should be allowed to Multibox at all. They are the most frustrating.

[Ken]

This was probably a tread for those who want to help others. So please keep your complains else where. I mean atleast 90% of this community is helpful and dont really care to learn others how game mechanincs works with multiboxing.



In my eyes your posts is just against helping others.
My post is mostly about "people should first actively try to help themselves". And I mean: REALLY trying and not just giving up after 5 minutes.
I can understand if you think that this is "against helping others", but to me it is not.


I mean where would you be first time you start up your computer and install wow for first time. You dont think it would be alot better to just ask somone ingame than spending some time to set up
hkey or somthing? And common discover things by yourself.
I don't think asking someone would have been better. I feel a lot happier when I accomplish things by myself.


Tell me you never visited wowhead/thottbot,
Visiting thottbot/wowhead means researching yourself. That has nothing to do with mentoring or getting mentored.


or even asked guild members for help with quests or ppl on msn for help with computer issue etc etc. Wich you CAN also serach on goodle for.
Give it a break man.
Of course I ask help, but there's a big difference to asking minor questions compared to getting spoonfed with all the details.
But usually I don't have to ask help, because I thought myself the things I wanted to know. That hasn't got anything to do with intelligence, but has everything to do with being driven and determined to accomplish something.
It might sound harsh to you, but this is how I accomplish things in life.
I'm a programmer with no college/university degree, but thanks to this attitude (dedication and a lot of hard work) I have a steady job at Sony.

[Sun]

if you stick around long enuff you will realize that "we" pride ourselves on boxing and being able to box without "holding hands"

its ok to ask the occasional questions because "we" know your trying to learn how to box

MOST if not all in this forum have painstakenly taken the steps to play multiple accounts. I would say 90% come in and see how difficult this is and will not have anything to do with boxing. Only because they will not make the effort to stimulate their brains with the concepts involved. Others who wont make the effort think that this is a 'h4XX0r" site and leave because they see how legit dual-boxing is.

So, if you think we have an attitude?....your right, we do. But only the kind of attitude that demands respect from others for being successful at whats been accomplished. You dont see us ridiculing players because they dont "get it".

Meet us on the battlefield ...w00t...w00t...w00t. ooooaaaaaah!!!!
***
oo btw...i have 24/7 teamspeak server and welcome anyone to ask me questions. I prefer TS instead of stopping in-game to answer them. And yes, I do take the time to help people with their questions. PM me and hopefully I will see your PM and send you my TS information. The Zerg also has a Ventrillo server that I believe the IP address is listed here in the forums. We are not "stuck UP", just busy with the game. So dont be disappointed if boxers dont stop to talk to you. Sometimes we also may be in conversation on voice chat with other players and may not notice your in-game chat. I try to respond to anyone within the game if they are respectful.

Sorry if your original post didnt go the way you wanted it to. But at least you got some of us boxers to respond to it.

[McSpuds]

Some people on this thread make me sick................. Stop turning this into a "See how big my EPEEN IS!" Contest. :cursing: You really need to stick to multiboxing because your social skills suck!

Nitro, this is a great idea!

Kc took about 45 minutes out of his day a couple of weeks ago, got on my ventrilo server with me, and got me going. There was nothing wrong with what he did! HE DIDN'T HOLD MY HAND! what he did was got me past the confusing set up procedures and into the meat of multiboxing. Because of this, I now have five active accounts and Love Multiboxing, and yes I still could use somebody to help me learn some of the neat tricks. I do know how to look for things, I do know how to read topics and threads too. Sometimes a little one on one with a fellow multiboxer might make the difference between somebody quiting and somebody actually learning the art of boxing.

I am on Thrall, alliance and I also have a crew on Mag. I might just pop over to Arthas and say hi tonight Nitro.

I am still having problems and consider myself a noob with all this, but if you need help to get going, or need help understanding why some macros work and others dont, pop on Thrall, Alliance and send me a tell, McSpuds. Send me a tell here, and I will give you my ventrilo addy and I will try to help as much as I can!

[Nitro]

if you stick around long enuff you will realize that "we" pride ourselves on boxing and being able to box without "holding hands"

Sorry if your original post didnt go the way you wanted it to. But at least you got some of us boxers to respond to it.

Uhh what? who is this "we" your talking about. I've been here plenty long and am a very successful multiboxer who enjoys teaching others, this post was made in an attempt to find others like myself who enjoy teaching people.

Obviously if this is not your style then this is not a thread for you guys. Way to trash it up wow forums style though.

[wrs]

As I started reading this thread, I was completely against the idea. I have had several of the common experiences. Someone starts out asking simple questions, "how do you multibox", "do you run all of your characters on different computers". Then it grows to, "where do I get keyclone" and "how do I set it up" to "how do I make a macro" etc.... etc.... it is just way more information that can be provided via whispers or party chat. Not to mention, 95% of the quesitons can be easly answered from the forums and wiki here.

But like I said, I was against the idea, at first. This was because of *my* experiences. But just because a mentor list is created, it doesn't mean that I need to volunteer for it, qed, why should I be against it. I think if there are people out there who are willing to invest that kind of time to assist others in this capacity, I think it's a great idea. When it is up and running, I'll even help by directing folks to the mentor program in addition to the dual-boxing forums.

[The IT Monkey]

I was starting a new team the other night and a kid was asking questions... I eventually (after explaining a lot about what I was doing) pointed him here when he expressed an interest in doing it himself.

I got a whisper a couple seconds later.... "where do I download it?"

/facepalm

[Gurblash]

I was starting a new team the other night and a kid was asking questions... I eventually (after explaining a lot about what I was doing) pointed him here when he expressed an interest in doing it himself.

I got a whisper a couple seconds later.... "where do I download it?"

/facepalm

This is EXACTLY why I do not help anyone. If I get ANY '?s' I hit my simple Keyclone and D-B.com plug macros and go about my day. Any further questions are simply ignored.

[Basilikos]

But like I said, I was against the idea, at first. This was because of *my* experiences. But just because a mentor list is created, it doesn't mean that I need to volunteer for it, qed, why should I be against it. I think if there are people out there who are willing to invest that kind of time to assist others in this capacity, I think it's a great idea. When it is up and running, I'll even help by directing folks to the mentor program in addition to the dual-boxing forums.

Perhaps those that agree to put their names on that list should be expected to follow certain procedures so that we don't end up in a situation where every MBer that anyone runs across ends up getting spammed newb Q's. Just saying - I'm worried about the effect that this could have on all of us, not just the people on the list.

[Majo]

I coach people on WoW in general enough as it is, but I guess I wouldn't mind. You can put me on there if ya like.

[Stealthy]

You can put me down as the rep for Magtheridon, well horde side anyways.

I've spoken to hundreds of people in depth about multiboxing since I started doing it...and IMO the most important thing to do is seperate out those with a genuine interest from the tyre kickers.

The first thing I talk about is the cost - both in setup and ongoing. I ask them would they be willing to pay for multiple accounts per month - this always tells me how serious they are about doing it.

If they pass the first round, the next thing I do is gauge their technical expertise and talk about the setup they will be planning to use. I'm fairly technical myself, so can go as in depth as I need to be. For those who aren't that technical, I usually recommend a single pc solution with key clone (as Rob offers excellent support for those who buy it). For the technically minded I talk about the full range of options. In either case I always recommend they either google multiboxing or come here and have a hunt around.

So far I have not come accross one instance where the person wanted to be 'spoon fed' everything. Usually once you give them a push in the right direction, they are more than happy to go off and try and find the info themselves.

Cheers,
Stealthy

[Knobley]

I'm not sure if this is the appropriate thread for it, but somehow reading the comments posted so far inspires me to say this...

I'd just like to thank everyone who participates on the forums to help people. It's clear to me that lots of folks have put in lots of work (via. wiki's help files, etc) to make mult-boxing accessable. And the help doesn't stop there. I'm the happy recepient of just the timely help I needed to get started in multi-boxing via these forums. The overall spirit here seems to be one of good-will and encouragement.

So, anyway, just wanted to say thanks!

Knobley

[Zzyzxx71]

Simple solution to the "help them fro 2 hours and never hear from them again" guys.

5k gold deposit. You get 70, you get it back.

[daviddoran]

I should make a /say macro that uses all 5 chars explaining it. Lol. Is it ok to use delays in a macro such as this? It doesn't affect the game really, so it's similar to the delay for my auto login macro.

[Stealthy]

How about this?

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/Stealthy_One/dummies3.jpg

:P



Cheers,

Stealthy

[Basilikos]

I should make a /say macro that uses all 5 chars explaining it. Lol. Is it ok to use delays in a macro such as this? It doesn't affect the game really, so it's similar to the delay for my auto login macro.

Don't go that route - Blizzard HAS to draw the line somewhere and ANY delay WHATSOEVER crosses it. JUST DON'T - you've already agreed not to on a legal basis.