Is there a thread devoted to people who might want to start multi-boxing, but have no clue about it?

[Evenpence]

I've looked around the site for a good bit, maybe I've just passed over the starting newbie thread.

I was just looking for info on how much it would cost to get this up and running, how many computers I need, etc etc.

Sorry if I'm being dumb by asking this question when the answer should be right in front of me!

Thanks !

[opt]

theres a whole wiki for it, theres also a newcomers section with multiple multiple stickies, its very easy to find.

[nogbog]

It's not as straight forward as the guys on here make it sound, here are a few links you should check out.
I recommend to the Wiki to find out what it's all about
Noob forums to ask questions (stickies will help you get started)

Wiki
Dual Boxing Wiki ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page')

Noobs forum
New Multi-Boxers & Support ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Board&boardID=11')

Good posts/guides to look at
How to Box 5 accounts (or 2 or 3 or 4) with ONE computer ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1767')
or
Beginners Guide 2 Dual-Boxing (3,4,5 boxing) ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=3339')

[Ken]

The Wiki is a good place to start.
This page is also very handy:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Multiboxing_101_%285_Mage_Tutorial%29

... and keep an eye on http://www.wow-multiboxing.com/
There will be a very basic hands-on tutorial available within a week or 2.

[Djarid]

Ok, There have been a few lost souls threads recently, I am going to have to look at the forum / wiki with fresh eyes and see how it has changed...

maybe we can optimise the experience for the newcomer.

[Djarid]

yep it has changed a lot since my day... there are too many global stickies obscuring the relevant information in the Beginners section.

the faq has been lost among all the other informative stickies that don't help a newcomer looking for information on how to start.

[Boylston]

There is also a "Wiki" tab at the top with a huge green "?" icon next to it...

That wiki main page has at least two incredibly useful links called "Getting Started" and "Multiboxing 101" that are very easy to find...

[Djarid]

it is all the abuse you receive ingame mate... ;)

tbh though the actual threads in the beginners section are about specific issues people have and are not that informative until you have a basic understanding.

Xzin's thread seems to have been lost (from the forum, it is in the wiki) and many of the useful stickes have obscure subjects (for those very new to the community)

I was starting to get a little ticked off with everyone asking for help before reading up and decided to find out why we get so much of it these days.

look at the forums with fresh eyes and it is a bit of a mess. I think we need to promote the wiki as the source of information for the new starter.

[Frosty]

One problem with the site is the "Wiki" button.

While people that have been around know where it is, someone new to the site will easily glance over it.
The button itself lacks any information other than it is a Wiki. Changing it to a flashing graphic (or something eye-catching) and making it a litle more descriptive would help.
There is a LOT of information on the first page for a new users to take in (including a lot of links)..anything to draw more attention to items you think people should know first would be a good start.

I'm not sure if it can be done with the forums, but putting a direct link that "looks" like you are going to a forum might also help. The more ways to get to the Wiki, the less chance people will have to look over it.

Sometimes people search so hard for something, they miss what's right in front of them....My keys come to mind. :P
But it doesn't mean they aren't looking or putting forth the effort. That being said, there are some people who just refuse, and there's nothing that can be done for them.

It would be funny if it was possible to add another button into the Message editor that would auto-populate a response with "n00b" information and links.

[Djarid]

agreed mate, but I think we also have to make it easier for them to find the info they need. Of course this could bring down the wrath of the community to anyone who doesn't a least take a look at the big flashing look here for multibox secrets link

[Ken]

[...] If we, the community, doesn't enfore these polcies - why have them at all?
Moderators have to enforce the policy. As long as they don't, the forum is going to get bloated with useless topics and vague questions.
There's a lot more going wrong, but I have the feeling that it's all 'talking to a big wall' because things are not likely to be changed.

Maybe it's a good idea to open a new topic to continue this discussion, because we're taking this one offtopic. These post can be moved to that topic.

[Ken]

True... true...

Maybe I should just give up my (un)holy crusade about keeping a nice and clean forum. I'm not talking about censorship - just organization.
I already gave up, hence the signature edit ;P
I'll still stay to help a bit over here of course :)

[Ken]

Whle I applaud your efforts at creating a new multiboxing resource.... is building a better mousetrap really needed?


It's going to be different in many ways. I'm not planning a forum nor a wiki. It's going to contain a step-by-step guide and easy to understand content. It's also going to focus on WoW, not general multiboxing. Information-wise it will be "less but more" (less in quantity, but more valuable).
[edit] I don't want to make a separate community and I'll probably just link to this forum in my community-related articles. I just want good and clean content, something that is almost impossible to accomplish here.

[kllrwlf]

The problem is just laziness.

This is what happens.

1. "Oh WOW !!! I wanna multibox!!!"
2. Do a search and find dual-boxing.com
3. Create forum Account
4. Post a new thread
5. "OMG WOW !!! I wanna multibox!!! HELP !!!"

This is what would be better.

1. "Oh WOW !!! I wanna multibox"
2. Do a search and find dual-boxing.com
3. Read stickies that are plastered all over. Like Beginners Guide 2 Dual-Boxing (3,4,5 boxing) ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=3339') , Your FAQ Guide Updated ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=3770'), Simple Dual Boxing FAQ / Wiki ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=416') , How to Box 5 accounts (or 2 or 3 or 4) with ONE computer ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1767')
4. Read the wiki including the one that's called "Getting Started" http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Getting_started
5. Get an idea on what's going on and how it works.
6. Figure out how many accounts you want to play. Don't ask, "should I play 3 toons or 4 toons?" This is purely on what you want and can afford.
7. Get a couple of trial accounts ( do a search for "trial")
8. See if your currently computers can handle it and how many it can handle
9. Buy more computers if needed or upgrade
10. Buy either a hardware or software setup http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Rigs http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Software
11. Start trying it by logging on
12. Create forum account
13. if you are stuck, do a search... you're not the first person to have problems or run into something
14. if you still can't find it, create a post with a specific question.

[Diamndzngunz]

lol another awesome thread.

[Talamarr]

Suggestion: Change the Wiki text to something like "Guide" or "Getting Started" or "RTFM".

I just found this site a week or two ago and I rarely go to the wiki. I found the information in the forums much more helpful. It also seems that a lot of the information in the wiki is copy/paste from forum posts. Although I do think the wiki is a great idea; just needs some better promotion and/or organization.

Having said that, this community (and this site) is the most informative, interesting and most helpful wow-based community I have ever read. I can't stress how much info I have leanred just poking around in varios threads. I even learned something new reading this "oh god, not another one of THESE threads".

[Wilbur]

If people use the report button for each post that shouldn't be where it is, we the mods can clean it up a lot quicker.

[Boylston]

Maybe have an on-line quiz requirement before the forum accounts can be used to create new posts....?

1.) Create account
2.) Study wiki/stickies/relevant posts
3.) Take www.dual-boxing.com ('www.d-b.com') quiz to activate account
4.) If pass, allow posting. If fail, require re-quizzing.

Sample questions include: "Create a macro to cast the spell Fireball at the current target of your character's focus", "List three ways one can send the same keypress to multiple clients", "State why it is important to be the real account owner of all multi-boxed accounts", etc...

[kllrwlf]

Suggestion: Change the Wiki text to something like "Guide" or "Getting Started" or "RTFM".

The wiki text is fine. Within the wiki, there's a section called "Getting Started".

There's also a search box on the top right corner of the forum that says "Enter Search Word" that doesn't get used.

[yarr]

Suggestion: Change the Wiki text to something like "Guide" or "Getting Started" or "RTFM".

The wiki text is fine. Within the wiki, there's a section called "Getting Started".

There's also a search box on the top right corner of the forum that says "Enter Search Word" that doesn't get used.

sometimes the search function doesn't get me what i want to get to, i often have to play around with the keywords i use. Would be nice also if we could select which forum we are searching (rather than searching every forum what if i just want to search macros). If this is possible please let me know =D

[accretion]

QFT (and lolcats)
Maybe have an on-line quiz requirement before the forum accounts can be used to create new posts....?

1.) Create account
2.) Study wiki/stickies/relevant posts
3.) Take www.dual-boxing.com ('www.d-b.com') quiz to activate account
4.) If pass, allow posting. If fail, require re-quizzing.

Sample questions include: "Create a macro to cast the spell Fireball at the current target of your character's focus", "List three ways one can send the same keypress to multiple clients", "State why it is important to be the real account owner of all multi-boxed accounts", etc...

[Tonuss]

True... true...

Maybe I should just give up my (un)holy crusade about keeping a nice and clean forum. I'm not talking about censorship - just organization.Anytime I send someone here, I make sure to advise them to read the forums for a while and search for their answers before they start posting. A week or two of browsing and reading can help you find the topics that you would otherwise start, which just clutters the forum. Worse still, people who have been helpful in the past may get tired of answering the same topics over and over and ignore people with new questions.

And yes, I did say one or two weeks. I can be as impatient as anyone about getting started with something that seems fun and exciting, but I still make sure to search out information on my own before asking for more help. That way, when I finally do decide to ask for help, I have specific questions that are easier to answer, and the answers are easier to understand because I've gotten some background information from all the reading I've done. Makes it more efficient for the person asking questions, and more fun/less aggravating for the people helping you.

I would definitely cut some slack to anyone who goes to the beginner's forum first. I'd be less patient with someone who posts beginner questions in any other forum, as it indicates that they did not even look at the forum list before diving in (or that they did and decided not to follow the obvious path anyway). That gives me the impression that they won't listen to what I'm offering or won't understand it, and I'm less inclined to offer help.

There are lots of people here who want to help newcomers to multiboxing, and they have a lot of knowledge of pretty much every aspect of it. Make it worth their while to help you, and they'll make it worth your while to ask.

[Vyndree]

Moved the thread to a more appropriate place. :)

[Knobley]

Well, I can give you a newcomer's perspective... things are not THAT difficult to find here. The wiki and the stickies are good. When you couple those with the very rapid response that you receive to specific questions there's really no excuse for not being able to figure things out....

IMH <and mostly accurate> O.

Knobley