nFORCE 680i Dual Ethernet?

[starfired]

Hi guys,

I have a nForce 680i with the dual Ethernet. Does anyone know if that second Ethernet port would be advantageous in receiving less lag with quad boxing ... and if so, maybe you can steer me in a good direction for setting that up?

Thanks!

[Groovy]

And what will you be plugging that 2nd port into exactly? Planning on buying a 2nd DLS/Cable internet line?

Even then, you'd only get a redundant system. You can't chain two to together that I'm aware and achieve what you're suggesting here.You can chain them together, but the gain for a single pc is minimal at best.

[starfired]

Exactly my question... some people have mentioned online binding the two for 2gig line... but i have no idea if thats possible and if there's any advantage. just curious as i don't know what it's there for.

[Groovy]

I thought with all the extra packet routing, you'd actually be slowing things down?It all depends on your ISP, doesnt matter what thruoutput your have at home, it will always bottleneck at your isp modem.

[Anozireth]

I can't imagine gaining an advantage with this with the relatively tiny amount of bandwidth used by WoW.

[leukos]

What you are probably thinking about is called 802.11ad, also known as Link Aggregation Control Protocol (LACP).

It requires support in the switch, but it allows using multiple physical links to, usually, the same switch to archive greater bandwidth and the ability to survive the failure of one of the member links (failover). Another variant is to have fun with how the computer presents its MAC address and connect each link up to a separate switch (this model is the foundation of most datacenters).

While I usually use multiple links more for availability requirements then performance requirements, I haven't seen any noticeable delay on any of the numerous servers that use multiple links. They all still average <1 ms pings. They also still average <1 ms when only one link is up.

I'd be tempted to think you wont see any noticeable latency gains relative to the latency of the connection between your cable/DSL modem and the last mile connecting you to their network.

Given that most Internet connections have available bandwidth in the <2 megabits per second range, I'm tempted to to think you wont see any noticeable bandwidth increases relative to your internal LAN bandwidth (which would be in the multi gigabit range per node with multiple links).

I'd put more effort in getting your DSL provider (if you use DSL) to configure the settings on your DSLAM port. After about three months of complaining every day about my 105 ms latency they sat me down with one of their engineers who spent about 3 hours playing a game of "is it better now" with me. It was a wonderful week until it went back up to 105ms, and I got a call from another friendly manager that "they don't do that [custom configure DSLAM ports]". Now I have comcraptic service. I'm lucky if I can even get them to pick up the phone.

[Edit: It is 802.11ad not 801.11ad]

[king.pa]

I read somewhere that the nvidia chipset on some hardware has special features to enhance ping over the internet ...

I think it's on the latest nforce...

btw, I'm boxing 4 wow and my wife is playing normaly her character.. so five wow at the same time on the same DSL line ...

100~150 ms ping average ... we often hit 80 ms when playing only two wows ...

on the oter side, it's a pain to play BGs without a good Ping.. our DSL provider give us the option to choose a fast_path mode to increase ping..

it workss pretty well

[zanthor]

2gBit line... Connected to... lets say you have the worlds most AMAZING cable, and go 10x what the average is.... 80mBit down and 5mbit upstream...

Bottleneck is your internet, not your nic.

A single 54G wireless connection is generally going to absolutely swamp what your average home broadband solution can handle.

Hell, the company I work for is having a 30mbit fiber ring turned on between our location and data center... but we'll STILL only have 4mbit to the internet.

[starfired]

Thanks for all the feedback guys. The nForce boards just off more than most people know about i think. :) (is SLI even working yet on Vista)

I have a supposed 5mb cable connection. Which from what I've been reading here should be sufficient. In the end I'm just trying to optimize the load time and glitches. I have a 2.3 Quad Core, 512mb BFG 8800GT and 2.5gb of ram or whatever windows vista 32 allows. Still sometimes it can get really choppy. I went through and did everything in the Vista optimization thread and currently have 2 instances of wow with the second instance using a symbolic link to link to the data folder. That said...now that my 4 shammys are lvl 58 when i enter shatt its crazy slow. I'm also using the low settings macro posted recently in the beginners forum. Sometimes my pc just freezes too out of the blue (a different issue)... the whole pc freezes and no error message.

Anyways i digress...my thought is maybe it's my video card and not that internet that is causing the slow up in big cities? I did see a noticeable difference after the vista optimization and low detail macros but is there more i can do to speed things up? i'm almost afraid to pvp :)

[wowphreak]

if yeh dont have 4 gigs of memory get it, seriously yeh get more bang for yer buck by adding 4 gigs of memory to yer pc then changeing anything else vista is a serious memory hog it need 2 gigs just to run by itself.

32bit operating system limit IS 4 gigs end of story.

if yeh really want wring out the max performance install XP.



the only thing that nFORCE 680i Dual Ethernet would help in is reduce the amount cpu cycles to handle/route/spindle/mutilate packets way overkill for gaming.

[kalten]

Little tip for ya here too...
Your windows Vista 32bit code will work with the 64bit install media....guess what? That lovely 4gig of RAM you have actually gets used then, rahter than getting limited to 3.5gig on 32bit mode.

So, I'd suggest getting hold of 64bit Vista and having some fun.

I've been running WoW in 64bit for some time now, and whilst I am VERY new to multi boxing (I'm going for 4 chars) I know that this is by far and away the best Os platform to do this on.

As for your NIC / ISP issue: You have nothing to worry about as long as you are looking to PvE more than PvP, though after reading through a lot of this forum I think you will have more issues from your keyboard/mouse setup than your ISP for latency.

If Money is of no worry - then go for 1 Pc per WoW install and a seperate DSL / ADSL line for each Pc...though that just seems a tad silly in my books :)



Oh...and hi - this is my first post...love to all :)

[Zzyzxx71]

<--- Systems Engineer for a consulting firm. The benefit would be null. The best think you may be able to do (if you have a switch that supports it properly) would be teaming. The bottleneck is your speed through your ISP, not from your PC to the router.

Wanna get monster speeds and insanely low pings? Pay $800/mo for a 1gbt line to your house (that doesn't include the install fee). 7ms ping FTW. :)