Some Guy Quits WoW Due to Blizzard's Apporval of Multiboxing

[Basilikos]

As I was haunting the Customer Service Forum, I noticed yet another MB QQ thread. So of course, I hop right into it. It mostly seemed like the usual trash, especially since it is over two months old (but it's a good one - Vyndree got a post in there when it was still new). Anyhow, the guy that thread-necro'ed this one threatened to quit (see post #14 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103947753&sid=1&pageNo=1 ('http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103947753&sid=1&pageNo=1') of that). This was just today, too. A few posts later (specifically, #17 on the same page) he actually claims to have closed his account.

This, I don't believe, has actually happened before in such an open way. I'm sure people have quit in a huff, but that's nothing new in the history of the world. I have a couple of questions for the nice folks here.

1) Do you think he actually canceled his subscription?
2) Do you think Blizzard cares?

I'm worried that we might start to see a large group of people doing this that actually mean it which might force Blizzard to do something drastic. Any thoughts?

[EvilSqueegee]

1) Do you think he actually canceled his subscription?
2) Do you think Blizzard cares?

I'm worried that we might start to see a large group of people doing this that actually mean it which might force Blizzard to do something drastic. Any thoughts?1) Probably not. Trolls will be trolls.
2) Naw. People quit every day.

[Basilikos]

I suppose. Also, in post #41 of the same thread I linked above, some guy told Vyndree to 'get a life little girl.' His words, not mine. Many might not know this, but it is my birthday today and I would really like to see Vyndree hurt this guy bad.

Please? Okay, I suppose I've gotten enough. Let's see...

- Someone broke the NDA on the WotLK alpha
- Botters banned in droves
- Some guy got PO'ed at MBers in a way I've never seen before
- I just figured out the ultimate hardware setup for my MB style and how inexpensive it can get while maintaining quality

Still - Vyndree? Please? :)

[Vyndree]

I suppose. Also, in post #41 of the same thread I linked above, some guy told Vyndree to 'get a life little girl.' His words, not mine. Many might not know this, but it is my birthday today and I would really like to see Vyndree hurt this guy bad.

HAHAHAHAHA. :) You made my day...

Ok, nevermind... The fact that the "other shammy" from this whole enh fiasco ('http://vboxing.net/blog/vboxing.php/2008/04/28/instant-enhancement') got banned for botting made my day. But your post made it better. ;)

[Basilikos]

The fact that the "other shammy" from this whole enh fiasco ('http://vboxing.net/blog/vboxing.php/2008/04/28/instant-enhancement') got banned for botting made my day.

Well it's nice to know that something came of that situation. Now for that guild leader...

[Kissell13]

Nah Bliz wont care, besides 5 people will have to close their account for every 5 boxer out there before there is even a loss.

[keyclone]

board trolls are like those people that will move out of the US if their candidate doesn't win.

you pray they will follow through with their 'threat' (promise?) .. and they never do.

[Tdog]

board trolls are like those people that will move out of the US if their candidate doesn't win.

you pray they will follow through with their 'threat' (promise?) .. and they never do.HAHA, LOL, :D Si !

[Nixi]

haha, in 2004 I told all of my friends I'd leave the US if my candadite didn't win. I've been abroad ever since.

[Basilikos]

haha, in 2004 I told all of my friends I'd leave the US if my candadite didn't win. I've been abroad ever since.

Honestly, that's the first time I've actually heard of someone following through with that, even if it is unintentional (as you make it sound).

[Kaynin]

Same happened in the EU a week or two ago. Some guy with his friends all quitted because of people being allowed to multibox. xP (Supposedly.)

[Bunny]

People threaten to quit all the time: "The item XY has a blue socket instead of a red one... omg bliz don't know the first thing about itemization... i'm quitting... blablabla"

[Maz]

It's comic when people threaten this as if they and their mates are going to make a difference to Blizzard's bottom line? Blizzard have just banned (allegedly) 300,000 accounts so it looks like they can afford to lose a few people :)

Someone suggested on the US forums that Blizzard had banned half a million cheaters the week that AoC came out to encourage them to go cheat in someone else's game. I'm more on the side of Murphy than Machiavelli but it would have been an inspired piece of skullduggery if it were true :D

[cepheus]

I think we are a lot more multiboxers than people that want to quit because of multiboxing. And as earlyer mentioned multiboxers contribute a lot more to the bottomline also, so there have to be about 3-4x more people that quits wow because of multiboxing to make any difference.

I also think that blizzard would not only lose the extra subscriptions we have, but probably all of them if they banned multiboxing, since many boxers would probably quit wow alltogether if it was banned. I know I would, and start looking for other games.

[Skuggomann]

Ahhh! new jack off material, thanks! :)

[zanthor]

Ok, nevermind... The fact that the "other shammy" from this whole enh fiasco ('http://vboxing.net/blog/vboxing.php/2008/04/28/instant-enhancement') got banned for botting made my day. But your post made it better. ;)The irony... the sweet sweet irony!

[Drizzit]

I remember the time when i didn't know about boxing. I saw 4 sham in a battle ground boxing, but i thought it was botting. I thought this because everyone was moving as one and doing the same thing. I was pissed off because it was ruing the bg. I kept writing notes to the GM saying that this person is botting. After i found out it was boxing and was legal, i was still saying how can boxing be legal (because i didn't know what boxing was), i thought that boxing = botting. The next day i did an internet search on boxing and found out what it was and this site. After reading i was like "oh, so it is one person not a computer controlling the accounts.... cool". 4 months later, here i am.

Granted i am not as thick skull as some other people, but once i knew it was a person and not a bot then i was ok with it. Now that i box myself i know how hard it is to do it. The other thing is the only way to know how to really truly beat a player is to play the class. I know how to kill a rogue easily with all my toons because i have a high level rogue and know how to play him... same goes for other classes. Like the warrior, when the symbol goes over his head i know what stance he is in because i have a warrior alt. I bet that all the high level boxers here know how to easily take down a boxer. It might not be 5v1 but you can probably do it 5v2 and have a much better chance 5v3, just because you have done boxing and know there weaknesses. I remember a post here from a dual boxing mage. He brought only 1 mage to bg and saw a 5 boxer sham. He knew what he was up against and had ideas on how to kill them. What he did was wait till the leader made a turn and he would use his dragon breathe and aoe, doing this has to make the boxer think quick and a non experienced boxer would die. The mage would have never knew this idea if he didn't box.

Sorry for the long response. Just my 2 cents.

[Tonuss]

I remember the time when i didn't know about boxing. I saw 4 sham in a battle ground boxing, but i thought it was botting. I thought this because everyone was moving as one and doing the same thing. I was pissed off because it was ruing the bg. I kept writing notes to the GM saying that this person is botting. After i found out it was boxing and was legal, i was still saying how can boxing be legal (because i didn't know what boxing was), i thought that boxing = botting. The next day i did an internet search on boxing and found out what it was and this site. After reading i was like "oh, so it is one person not a computer controlling the accounts.... cool". 4 months later, here i am.In the thread linked above, there is a post from an alt claiming to be a guild mate of the guy who bumped the thread and threatened to quit. The alt stated that at first he was dismayed at losing a good guild mate and good person, but on reading the thread he felt that multiboxing was okay and not unfair.

Posts like that, and yours above, is why I continue to respond to the anti-MB people. I'm not trying to convince some blockhead ("I don't care what Blizzard says!!!") that he is wrong or that multiboxing is fine. I'm hoping that the readers who are on the fence-- the ones who never post, but read and consider the topics-- check things out for themselves and recognize that multiboxing is fine. And maybe they look into it and decide to do it, or decide not to, but they will support it because they think it's fine. Some of them post in those threads telling the complainers to shut up, that multiboxing is fine, etc etc.

Blizzard is not going to forbid multiboxing on a whim. They do it, they support it, they have no problems with it, they have been adamant that there is nothing unfair about it. It's been a part of MMORPGs for as long as there have been MMORPGs. People who threaten to leave for AoC or Warhammer will be bitching on those forums in a year or so (assuming they haven't returned to WoW in the meantime :whistling: ) about how multiboxers are killing the game and they will leave any day now. And those developers will tell them that multiboxing is just fine, too.

[Eteocles]

@ the Quitter: "This little poster went to General; this little poster stayed home. This little poster had Quest-related beefs. This little poster had none. This little (Quitting) poster went WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH all the way home."

If he quits over that he's retarded and we're better off without him and his stupidity pissing in the WoW gene pool. As Magtheridon's trolls would say, he can "Go fuck himself" ;D

[Sanctume]

Even if they quit, there's always a Scroll of Ressurection.

[Basilikos]

Even if they quit, there's always a Scroll of Ressurection.

Oh now I didn't think about that. I wonder if I could chain-use it on all my accounts? I must research...

[Gallo]

I like this quote made about the advantages and disadvantages of multiboxing... it should be used to explain to noobs that multiboxing does not equal instawin:


The BG isn't won because of multi-boxing teams. There is an even number of players on both side. This multi-boxer maybe able to have coordinated firepower, but he can only concentrate on one objective. That one objective regardless of whatever it is, will take 5 members to accomplish. You have an open graveyard with no defenders, one or two character can take that graveyard as oppose to 5. A flag carrier is WSG manages to outmanuever the multiboxer, then thats FIVE opposing players thats been outmanuevered instead of one. If a multi-boxer decides to defend the flag, thats 5 people out of 10 unavailable for offense.

BGs can be lost because of multi-boxer just as easily as it can be won. The multi-boxer's ability to focus is also its downfall when you need adaptive independently thinking entities per character. Regardless of the number of players in the battleground. It is still 10 characters vs. 10 characters. Or 40 characters vs. 40 characters. There is nothing unfair here. If you lost, it was due to poor strategy on your side, or great strategy on your opponents side.

[keyclone]

nah.. why give information to the enemy?

and you don't tip off the prey :D

[David]

Even if the guy quits. By approving there is propperly a guy with 45 accoutns who can keep playing. Do the math :-)

[Catamer]

haha, in 2004 I told all of my friends I'd leave the US if my candadite didn't win. I've been abroad ever since.

I knew a couople who did the same thing. They sold their house and moved to London. They lasted 8-9 months before moving back. They blew any money they had from the sale of their house and moved back home where they couldn't afford to buy a house anymore. I guess being being gay and married in the UK wasn't nearly as wonderful as being partners together in the USA. Their biggest complaint was "the taxes were so high and they even tax your TV". I don't think they really learned anything from it, they still vote for higher taxes every chance they get. They are so sure those taxes won't apply to them.

[Eteocles]

I've said it before and sadly I'll say it many a time again...
People are stupid.