Kaynin
05-19-2008, 10:20 AM
So yesterday I went from 1450 to 1600 rating. This is my third week at level 70. And the first week I started to win more then loosing! And I frapsed several of the fights. (I frapsed them mainly for myself as well, so I can look back at what went wrong and hope I can learn from it.)
These aren't the matches in which I steamrolled the opponents, these are all the matches where things went wrong, or stuff happened that shouldn't happen. So I hope some quad boxing elemental shaman could put this to some use and maybe learn a bit from it!
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http://files.filefront.com/arena+finalavi/;10269600;/fileinfo.html
(Download it for high quality.)
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MOVIE INFO BELOW:
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This movie is quite badly done in terms of editing, and I only had 1 hour of doing arena footage to work with, but I still wanted to make a movie of it, since a lot of the fights have some points that other multiboxers could learn from. I know I do! I made several mistakes, I didn't add any 'clean' fight in the movie. I had a few fights that were just steamrolling the other teams, one after another in no time. But those weren't the fights I wanted to see again for myself anyhow. The fights things go wrong or whatever are the ones to learn from! x)
The movie fights in order explained.:
First fight
Stone hoof Sisters vs (5vs4)
Enhancement Shaman
Disc Priest
Resto Druid
Rogue
As the fight started, I popped the rogues CloS, swapped to an enhancement and nuked him down. I attempted to go for the priest but couldn't follow with the rogue on me, so I swapped back to the rogue, who didn't have his CloS anymore at that point. I got him before he could vanish. After that things start to get dodgy! This is what happens when you have a positioning macro that only puts some of your characters to walking mode while accidentally being in a quick pause. xD This was a major screw up on my side, first time this happened to me in battle. :p But I had serious problem trying to get them to all run. Eventually I managed to get them all running with the use of pause while finishing off the game. :p It was an unfair fight, so quite easy, but the funny screw up was funny!
Second fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Enhancement Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Disc Priest
Resto Druid
Rogue
Same team, this time they had all five.
I was lucky I didn't get rushed in this one, again it shows how easily you can screw up if your mind wanders just a little bit. Just before the fight starts you can see one of my chars running to the rest from the spawn point. Sometimes when I join Arena (or leave) I lose my focus on my alts. And I am used to press my focus button at the start of an arena, for some reason the client on that alt wasn't fully loaded yet, thus when I started running into the arena, that alt didn't have a focus and wasn't quite listening to my follow macro. xP Since I wasn't rushed, there wasn't much of a consequence because of it tho. Now on to the fight. I had noticed the orc shaman dropped really fast in the first game against them, not knowing the potential of the gear of the other shaman in the arena, I decided to choose the orc as a first target. He went down easily enough, their groundings kinda screwed up some of my initial damage which caused me to panic a little to nuke as hard as I could before he could get healed. I'd need to be more careful on better geared people though.
I swapped to the other enhancement and this part you can see how much win rocket boots are on your supporting healer. I'm blessed with a very good supporting healer who knows how to play. He kept them busy without them being able to do anything, and from then on, with all targets in front of me, I could just play the game through.
Third fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Enhancement Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Disc Priest
Resto Druid
Rogue
Again the same team, altho this time they rushed. I noticed and decided to drop my totems asap. Now, the orc shaman was healed to bits, I had trouble softening him up. Then a rather odd thing happened. I had him on 30%, confident my instant would bring him down. I pop 4x em+ns+cl. And he GAINS health? xP The druid that got the secundary hits even got his hp reduced by 50%! I honestly don't know what went wrong there. It doesn't seem to be pain surpression. In fact, it doesn't seem to be anything. I am guessing he used the engineering belt, maybe. Either way, my initial nuke was foiled bigtime. Again, my healer uses his rocket boots to open up the field for me and I had free play from then on. Altho my alts lost follow and I didn't notice very quick at first, at this point it didn't really matter that much anymore. With the rogue on my healer I didn't want to take chances, I downed their third dps and finished the game.
Fourth fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Warlock
Mage
Rogue
Hunter
Priest
In this fight, my healer disconnected -just- as they started to attack. I was left with just the four of me. If this was a 2 healer/3 dps combo with the same gear and skill... I might have been able to do them even.. They weren't good. Four dps, way to spread out and they still hesitated. I managed to down the lock and mage. But lost alas. 21 ratings due to a disconnect. :<
Fifth fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Warlock
Mage
Rogue
Hunter
Priest
Same team, except no disconnect this time. We popped the rogue early, I wasted his cd's and as the rest came, I swapped. My main char had some focus on him for a second there. But the rogue wasn't following focus orders. Then they swapped tot my healer, who far outgears me. :p I could play the game through without any trouble.
Sixth fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Enhancement Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Disc Priest
Resto Druid
Rogue
Same team as the third three fights, still added it in because of their 'tactic'. I've had several teams do thsi to me. The first time, I followed the team down. Was majorly los abused and lost. Seriously, don't ever go down unless you have downed at least 2 of the opposite team. This fight shows how majorly superior you are on the bridge. There's some cuts in the movie mostly bad editing on my case. I tried to speed up the center part of the fight, instead of the movie speeding up it got clipped and, whatever. :P Anyhow, again, <3 rocketboots. He just pulls the enemy in front of me, and I shoot them down like clay discs. x) My healer jumped down with four of them up, I stayed up, knowing he'd come back up. Really, would have been bad to jump at that time. I didn't jump down until there was just the druid and priest left. During the fight I did loose on alt on follow, I need to be pressing that macro way more often. Had I done so, the druid might have been a goner sooner.
Stonehoof Sisters does Full season 3 gear. (the other way around. :< )
Hunter
Warlock
Disc Priest
Slsl lock
Rogue
This was the Nr. 5 team in my battlegroup. Apparantly someone in their team was new and had low personal rating. We went up 5 times against them and took quite a blow in our personal rating, but didn't loose any points in any of the fights.
I honestly didn't know what to do. I wasted my nuke on the hunter in this fight. Hoping to have some lucky procs. Right now, that's all I can do against full s3 teams. Especially if they keep lossing and running back like this team does. They allow me little time to burst while they just wear through my gear. I had no chance. Maybe a tiny lucky proc chance, but even with the hunter down, this would be a hard fight for me. They know how to play. When I failed to kill the hunter, then failed to kill the rogue, they started opening up bad and I just dropped like mad. My healer went oom, fight's over. You can maybe see in damage done that they didn't really to -that- much damage. They really went to contorlling the fight over nuking target for target. They did it well, had not a single moment I could kill any one of them. :p
Stonehoof Sisters does Full season 3 gear. (Again the other way around. :< )
Hunter
Warlock
Disc Priest
Slsl lock
Rogue
Again, every time I try to focus someone, they LoS on me, I'm outplayed and it's a goner really. I did make some mistakes here, I should have been closer to the doors, a little further back. Halfway through I gave up, decided to nuke the warlock to see how much I could nuke a full s3 slsl lock. (Well, when you know it's a goner, might as well take use of the situation to feel around a bit!). Needless to say. 2x em+ns+cl hardly even hurted him. 88 - 79% :p So, had I been with 4, I'd do a grand total of 18% damage with my biggest hit. Prolly. Well, locks are only good targets on low rated. x)
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Rogue
Hunter
Mage
Priest
Warlock
This is actually funny, I started on the hunter, wanted to soften her up. Bit apparantly she died before I realized she died, which made me think she feigned. So I had to double check even to be sure, haha. You can see I even blow my instant the moment she died, really didn't expect her to drop that quick. I double checked, okay, she's really dead, so moved on to the next target. Dropped the rogue, then the mage. I should have keyboard turned, I usually always do, somehow I failed to do this this time. But it didn't matter much anymore at this point. Played out the game and cashed in the ratings.
... Okay, long post! Sorry about that.
These aren't the matches in which I steamrolled the opponents, these are all the matches where things went wrong, or stuff happened that shouldn't happen. So I hope some quad boxing elemental shaman could put this to some use and maybe learn a bit from it!
==========================================
http://files.filefront.com/arena+finalavi/;10269600;/fileinfo.html
(Download it for high quality.)
==========================================
MOVIE INFO BELOW:
==========================================
This movie is quite badly done in terms of editing, and I only had 1 hour of doing arena footage to work with, but I still wanted to make a movie of it, since a lot of the fights have some points that other multiboxers could learn from. I know I do! I made several mistakes, I didn't add any 'clean' fight in the movie. I had a few fights that were just steamrolling the other teams, one after another in no time. But those weren't the fights I wanted to see again for myself anyhow. The fights things go wrong or whatever are the ones to learn from! x)
The movie fights in order explained.:
First fight
Stone hoof Sisters vs (5vs4)
Enhancement Shaman
Disc Priest
Resto Druid
Rogue
As the fight started, I popped the rogues CloS, swapped to an enhancement and nuked him down. I attempted to go for the priest but couldn't follow with the rogue on me, so I swapped back to the rogue, who didn't have his CloS anymore at that point. I got him before he could vanish. After that things start to get dodgy! This is what happens when you have a positioning macro that only puts some of your characters to walking mode while accidentally being in a quick pause. xD This was a major screw up on my side, first time this happened to me in battle. :p But I had serious problem trying to get them to all run. Eventually I managed to get them all running with the use of pause while finishing off the game. :p It was an unfair fight, so quite easy, but the funny screw up was funny!
Second fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Enhancement Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Disc Priest
Resto Druid
Rogue
Same team, this time they had all five.
I was lucky I didn't get rushed in this one, again it shows how easily you can screw up if your mind wanders just a little bit. Just before the fight starts you can see one of my chars running to the rest from the spawn point. Sometimes when I join Arena (or leave) I lose my focus on my alts. And I am used to press my focus button at the start of an arena, for some reason the client on that alt wasn't fully loaded yet, thus when I started running into the arena, that alt didn't have a focus and wasn't quite listening to my follow macro. xP Since I wasn't rushed, there wasn't much of a consequence because of it tho. Now on to the fight. I had noticed the orc shaman dropped really fast in the first game against them, not knowing the potential of the gear of the other shaman in the arena, I decided to choose the orc as a first target. He went down easily enough, their groundings kinda screwed up some of my initial damage which caused me to panic a little to nuke as hard as I could before he could get healed. I'd need to be more careful on better geared people though.
I swapped to the other enhancement and this part you can see how much win rocket boots are on your supporting healer. I'm blessed with a very good supporting healer who knows how to play. He kept them busy without them being able to do anything, and from then on, with all targets in front of me, I could just play the game through.
Third fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Enhancement Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Disc Priest
Resto Druid
Rogue
Again the same team, altho this time they rushed. I noticed and decided to drop my totems asap. Now, the orc shaman was healed to bits, I had trouble softening him up. Then a rather odd thing happened. I had him on 30%, confident my instant would bring him down. I pop 4x em+ns+cl. And he GAINS health? xP The druid that got the secundary hits even got his hp reduced by 50%! I honestly don't know what went wrong there. It doesn't seem to be pain surpression. In fact, it doesn't seem to be anything. I am guessing he used the engineering belt, maybe. Either way, my initial nuke was foiled bigtime. Again, my healer uses his rocket boots to open up the field for me and I had free play from then on. Altho my alts lost follow and I didn't notice very quick at first, at this point it didn't really matter that much anymore. With the rogue on my healer I didn't want to take chances, I downed their third dps and finished the game.
Fourth fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Warlock
Mage
Rogue
Hunter
Priest
In this fight, my healer disconnected -just- as they started to attack. I was left with just the four of me. If this was a 2 healer/3 dps combo with the same gear and skill... I might have been able to do them even.. They weren't good. Four dps, way to spread out and they still hesitated. I managed to down the lock and mage. But lost alas. 21 ratings due to a disconnect. :<
Fifth fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Warlock
Mage
Rogue
Hunter
Priest
Same team, except no disconnect this time. We popped the rogue early, I wasted his cd's and as the rest came, I swapped. My main char had some focus on him for a second there. But the rogue wasn't following focus orders. Then they swapped tot my healer, who far outgears me. :p I could play the game through without any trouble.
Sixth fight
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Enhancement Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Disc Priest
Resto Druid
Rogue
Same team as the third three fights, still added it in because of their 'tactic'. I've had several teams do thsi to me. The first time, I followed the team down. Was majorly los abused and lost. Seriously, don't ever go down unless you have downed at least 2 of the opposite team. This fight shows how majorly superior you are on the bridge. There's some cuts in the movie mostly bad editing on my case. I tried to speed up the center part of the fight, instead of the movie speeding up it got clipped and, whatever. :P Anyhow, again, <3 rocketboots. He just pulls the enemy in front of me, and I shoot them down like clay discs. x) My healer jumped down with four of them up, I stayed up, knowing he'd come back up. Really, would have been bad to jump at that time. I didn't jump down until there was just the druid and priest left. During the fight I did loose on alt on follow, I need to be pressing that macro way more often. Had I done so, the druid might have been a goner sooner.
Stonehoof Sisters does Full season 3 gear. (the other way around. :< )
Hunter
Warlock
Disc Priest
Slsl lock
Rogue
This was the Nr. 5 team in my battlegroup. Apparantly someone in their team was new and had low personal rating. We went up 5 times against them and took quite a blow in our personal rating, but didn't loose any points in any of the fights.
I honestly didn't know what to do. I wasted my nuke on the hunter in this fight. Hoping to have some lucky procs. Right now, that's all I can do against full s3 teams. Especially if they keep lossing and running back like this team does. They allow me little time to burst while they just wear through my gear. I had no chance. Maybe a tiny lucky proc chance, but even with the hunter down, this would be a hard fight for me. They know how to play. When I failed to kill the hunter, then failed to kill the rogue, they started opening up bad and I just dropped like mad. My healer went oom, fight's over. You can maybe see in damage done that they didn't really to -that- much damage. They really went to contorlling the fight over nuking target for target. They did it well, had not a single moment I could kill any one of them. :p
Stonehoof Sisters does Full season 3 gear. (Again the other way around. :< )
Hunter
Warlock
Disc Priest
Slsl lock
Rogue
Again, every time I try to focus someone, they LoS on me, I'm outplayed and it's a goner really. I did make some mistakes here, I should have been closer to the doors, a little further back. Halfway through I gave up, decided to nuke the warlock to see how much I could nuke a full s3 slsl lock. (Well, when you know it's a goner, might as well take use of the situation to feel around a bit!). Needless to say. 2x em+ns+cl hardly even hurted him. 88 - 79% :p So, had I been with 4, I'd do a grand total of 18% damage with my biggest hit. Prolly. Well, locks are only good targets on low rated. x)
Stonehoof Sisters vs
Rogue
Hunter
Mage
Priest
Warlock
This is actually funny, I started on the hunter, wanted to soften her up. Bit apparantly she died before I realized she died, which made me think she feigned. So I had to double check even to be sure, haha. You can see I even blow my instant the moment she died, really didn't expect her to drop that quick. I double checked, okay, she's really dead, so moved on to the next target. Dropped the rogue, then the mage. I should have keyboard turned, I usually always do, somehow I failed to do this this time. But it didn't matter much anymore at this point. Played out the game and cashed in the ratings.
... Okay, long post! Sorry about that.