How can i box easily without having to buy keyclone

[zirwinsalot]

i wanna try out boxing on like 4 10 day free trials but i cant buy keyclone so what can i do

[Kedash00]

[Other] Comprehensive List of Software Tools (updated 9/07) ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1126')

[Eteocles]

Simple as "Read the wiki/stickies and realize there's more options than keyclone", and each has their own difficulty level + way of being set up =P

And HAY Ked, go read my new karaoke ;p

[zirwinsalot]

i hear that autohotkey is kinda diffiucult so what would be the easiest?

[Eteocles]

That pretty much comes down to how good you personally are at figuring them out; AHK was a joke for me cuz it's simple logic code and copy/pastable via notepad, though for others it's a nightmare...I hear lots of good things about Octopus but it too can take some time/effort to set up and still comes down to you + yer setup

[zirwinsalot]

hey e can u help me set up ahk

[zirwinsalot]

i wanna box but im not the best with comps so maybe someone can talk to me on a vent or something

[zirwinsalot]

i need some help pls

[kllrwlf]

You should download and try to use AHK.

There's a lot of things that you'll have to learn in order to multi-box and no one is going to be able to hold your hand through the entire process.

Read all the stickies, use the search function and give it your best shot. If you get stuck at a particular spot, do a search and if there's no topics on it, ask on the forums.

[Ifalna]

Would really recommend hotkeynet also, quite easy to grab the basics, and once you do it is an immensely versatile tool with very in depth control features, cannot say anything bad about it.

[Eteocles]

There's also a difference between "help" and "doing it for you" ;p ALOT of multi-boxing will require specific work you'll do yourself that noone else CAN do, best to learn that now

[Kedash00]

And HAY Ked, go read my new karaoke ;p


what forum is it in? i can't find it

[Ughmahedhurtz]

i wanna box but im not the best with comps so maybe someone can talk to me on a vent or somethingLook, while we're a really helpful bunch here, I have a suggestion for you. (Don't take this the wrong way.) If you can't figure out one of the non-keyclone tools and how to get it working with the mountain of data already in the stickies, walkthroughs and tutorials, maybe multiboxing isn't something you're cut out for. Seriously, there are a TON of variables to consider and different situations you'll need to comprehend and adjust for. Consider this a challenge, if you will.

I look forward to hearing how you progress. Good luck!

[Crayonbox]

It's amazing how helpful and friendly, and also how tolerant people are on the forums. If it was up to me, I'd probably just flame the crap out of this guy as he apparently has no interest in doing anything for himself and just wants someone to do things for him.

[Eteocles]

Ked, general as always, still on page 1 ;p

[Stabface]

You can multibox without any extra software at all. Just run multiple copies of WoW (windowed mode recommended) and alt-tab through them. You can only control 1 character at a time this way, but it will at least let you see what your machine(s) can handle.

Also, there are a lot of excellent resources here about setting up several different multibox software solutions. Check the sticky threads in the appropriate forums, the search button, and the WIKI. You can find everything and more there that you need in order to make a decision about which solution you want to proceed with.


To be brutally honest, setting up any of the various multiboxing software is probably the *easiest* and by far the *fastest* part of the whole process. You will spend far more time learning to play your group effectively, setting up UIs, figuring out talents and group roles, writing macros, and things like that.

[aerows]

If you download the script for wow broadcasting with Autohotkey, you can get a start, BUT as everyone has said, that is the easy part. I'm just starting out myself and I am very familiar with programming yet there is still a learning curve. Try two just by alt-tabbing between them. By doing that you can figure out what you will need and go from there or whether you want to even fool with it.

[Vyndree]

Yeah, sadly I believe the conversation goes something along these lines...

Q: Can I have my cake and eat it too?
A: No.


Sadly, the answer given isn't always the one you want to hear... You will either have to work very hard to learn how to use a free software alternative or pay the money and get an easier-to-use version. Either way, work will be involved to set up macros and get moving with multiboxing.

This isn't exactly a straight-out-of-the-box plug and play type of hobby. Think of it like building model cars -- the point isn't to show off the shiny model car on your mantle once you're finished -- they joy is to build the car in the first place. Showing off the model once it's finished is just a testament to the work you put into it.

[leukos]

I'm going to be very unproductive and add something that doesn't add or help the conversation:

I want a pony!

[Chranny]

I want a tiger! :< The Zul'Gurub one preferebly.

[Wilbur]

I am RICHARD! For PONY!

[Tasty]

'Nothing worthwhile in life comes easy' :)

edit: Richard got banished! :(

[Crayonbox]

Goddamn it. This is the plane of suck.

[Tdog]

i wanna box but im not the best with comps so maybe someone can talk to me on a vent or somethingLook, while we're a really helpful bunch here, I have a suggestion for you. (Don't take this the wrong way.) If you can't figure out one of the non-keyclone tools and how to get it working with the mountain of data already in the stickies, walkthroughs and tutorials, maybe multiboxing isn't something you're cut out for. Seriously, there are a TON of variables to consider and different situations you'll need to comprehend and adjust for. Consider this a challenge, if you will.

I look forward to hearing how you progress. Good luck!QFT... Again we aren't trying to be mean but even once you actually get w/e program you decide to use all set-up and figured out there's a whole hell of a lot more to figure out along the way. You'll spend perhaps a few hours just figuring out a few simple macros and where to place them prior to even starting to really play your team. You'll probably rewrite most of them prior to even hitting your first instance. This really isn't something that you just jump right into and TADA!!! You're instant pro. While people here are more than willing to give you some tips about this or that after you've looked for an answer, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone anywhere that would be willing to do it all for you.

My suggestion if you are interested in multi-boxing, and want to see if you will like it w/o having to drop alot of money at the get go, would be to start off dual-boxing and getting use to making macros to make your characters work together. You'll be able to figure out quite a bit for that to know if this is even something you want to run the headache of doing.


Also on a side note this isn't the WOW forums, and what I mean by that is there are millions of people who view those forums every day, there are only a few thousand who view these forums. You'll have to give it longer than a few mins inbetween posts to get an answer from someone who might be able to answer your post. Sometimes I've had to wait all day.

[Tasty]

Goddamn it. This is the plane of suck.:D

[Taffy]

This isn't exactly a straight-out-of-the-box plug and play type of hobby. Think of it like building model cars -- the point isn't to show off the shiny model car on your mantle once you're finished -- they joy is to build the car in the first place. Showing off the model once it's finished is just a testament to the work you put into it.

Very well said, Vyndree. Quote-worthy, even.

[Sarduci]

Q: Can I have my cake and eat it too?
A: No.
Pie >= Cake

Discuss.

Back on topic:
Multiboxing is niche, meaning that I'd guess that on a generous month less than 1% of 1% of the WoW population multiboxes like we do. (That'd be 1000 people based on 10 million subs) For three reasons I suggest this:
1) Intelligence
2) Money
3) See 1 & 2

Reference the WoW general forum if you need reasons why for 1, 2, or 3. Mainly #1.

To quote my well worn t-shirt of geekdom:
There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those the don't.

If understanding the basics of the basic is too much, then this style of play is not for you. Sort of like doing math in hex instead of dec. Or like working on my own car is for me.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Q: Can I have my cake and eat it too?
A: No.
Pie >= Cake

Discuss.<Sir_Robin>That's EASY!</Sir_Robin>

Let's use Visual Basic as a reference to resolve this mathematically and programmatically just so there's no ambiguity here.

If we start from the well established fact that The Cake is a Lie ('http://l00py.net/images/thecakeisalie.jpg') , then cake must be False. The INT value of False (CInt(False)) is 0. Easy enough.

Now, Pie is widely debated but from empirical data we can postulate that Pie is A) tasty ('http://www.google.com/search?q=why+pie+is+tasty') , B) patently NOT false and C) a standard prerequisite for +1 posts.
Regarding point A, let us first control for input by asserting that the baker is competent and will not induce spurious negative data (i.e.: bad taste) into the experiment. The fact that Tasty > Not(Tasty) means it must be positive and, therefore, greater than 0. So, A >= 1.
For point B, applying a NOT operation to False would mean it changes to True, thus, CInt(True) = B = -1.
For point C, prerequisite means it comes before the next post. Since all forum post counters start at 0 by default and the minimum number of posts a user can have is zero, this reveals that the minimum value for C is -1.OK, so, if we postulate that where bakers are competent, pie actually exists (not false) and controlling for normal forum usage the world over, we see that A * B * C = N where N is the cumulative value of Pie. So, 1 * -1 * -1 = 1 and obviously 1 > 0, thus, Pie > Cake.

I think that wraps things up fairly tidily. Cue the whiners and naysayers that will support (based on chaos theory) that the value of Tasty varies over time. To them, I say GTFO my internetz.

[Tdog]

Q: Can I have my cake and eat it too?
A: No.
Pie >= Cake

Discuss.<Sir_Robin>That's EASY!</Sir_Robin>

Let's use Visual Basic as a reference to resolve this mathematically and programmatically just so there's no ambiguity here.

If we start from the well established fact that The Cake is a Lie ('http://l00py.net/images/thecakeisalie.jpg') , then cake must be False. The INT value of False (CInt(False)) is 0. Easy enough.

Now, Pie is widely debated but from empirical data we can postulate that Pie is A) tasty ('http://www.google.com/search?q=why+pie+is+tasty') , B) patently NOT false and C) a standard prerequisite for +1 posts.
Regarding point A, let us first control for input by asserting that the baker is competent and will not induce spurious negative data (i.e.: bad taste) into the experiment. The fact that Tasty > Not(Tasty) means it must be positive and, therefore, greater than 0. So, A >= 1. For point B, applying a NOT operation to False would mean it changes to True, thus, CInt(True) = B = -1. For point C, prerequisite means it comes before the next post. Since all forum post counters start at 0 by default and the minimum number of posts a user can have is zero, this reveals that the minimum value for C is -1.OK, so, if we postulate that where bakers are competent, pie actually exists (not false) and controlling for normal forum usage the world over, we see that A * B * C = N where N is the cumulative value of Pie. So, 1 * -1 * -1 = 1 and obviously 1 > 0, thus, Pie > Cake.

I think that wraps things up fairly tidily. Cue the whiners and naysayers that will support (based on chaos theory) that the value of Tasty varies over time. To them, I say GTFO my internetz.Ah but there is one flaw in your logic in which the variable of point D or <German Chocolate> is applied to point A. While it is true that 1 > 0 when you add in variable point D which has a numerical value of 2 we see that 0+D(2) = 2 or 1< 2 , thus the only proven time when infact Pie < Cake. This is further proven when applied to in an actual test cause lets face it....GERMAN CHOCOLATE PIE TASTE LIKE ASS!!!

[OzPhoenix]

<Sets Aircraft Transponder to 7500> :thumbup:

[Knytestorme]

man I wish I could remember the equation to show cake > pie

Goes along the lines of:

Pi = 3.412
c = speed of light
a = can't recall
k = can't recall
e = exponential (and since there is nothing behind it, assume 1)

therefore Pi*e^1 > c*a*k*e^1 is false, thus cake > pie

[Tdog]

man I wish I could remember the equation to show cake > pie

Goes along the lines of:

Pi = 3.412
c = speed of light
a = can't recall
k = can't recall
e = exponential (and since there is nothing behind it, assume 1)

therefore Pi*e^1 > c*a*k*e^1 is false, thus cake > piemeh... basically cake sucks in comparison to pie with the exception of german chocolate cake. Really all there is too it :)