View Full Version : It's official I hate Windows Vista
shaeman
05-13-2008, 03:06 AM
So my quad core 6600 nvdidia 8500 gt system arrives last night, and I'm like a kid at christmas.
It's got Windows Vista 64 and straight out of the box I boot up, it gives a blue screen of death and reboots.
I eventually track that down to the nvidia drivers, update and it still happens. Grrrrr!!!!!
So I figure I will install my wireless dongle so I can get on the net and research and download, but Vista doesn't recognise my hardware. A quick trip to PC world and I come back with a shiny new Vista Certified wireless usb dongle. Plug it in and Vista doesn't like it. Much struggling, gnashing, wailing and pulling of hair later, and I was no further forward. The windows vista certified dongle has no driver for windows vista on it's website so how can they get away with that :)
I've got something to try for the graphics card , but sometimes it just seems that Vista is a massive step backwards.
Anyone else struggle setting up Vista 64 - tell me you got through it :)
Chorizotarian
05-13-2008, 03:23 AM
Building a new machine can be frustrating with any OS. Have you run some burn-in tests to make sure that your system is stable with just the bare minimum of hardware installed? I had issues for a while that looked like video driver crashes but were actually caused by my RAM defaulting to a voltage that was too low. You just have to be methodical. Once you get everything set Vista x64 is very stable though.
shaeman
05-13-2008, 07:06 AM
Your right - it's more the 3rd party driver support that's frustrating.
Although slightly frustrating that a device that I bought with Vista certified on it doesn't work, but that could be a case of it working fine on vista 32 and not on 64.
Chorizotarian
05-13-2008, 10:47 AM
The requirements for getting a Vista logo were set way too low. As you say, if it has a logo it should work. End of story.
Kissell13
05-13-2008, 11:20 AM
I have a similar setup to what you said you just got except i have 2 8800gt gpu's, and just installed vista64 bout 3 months ago and I have yet to have a single problem with it.
Not sure what your problem could be. Is this a retail copy of the OS??
Sarduci
05-13-2008, 12:23 PM
PM me the stop codes from the crashes and I'll be happy to look them up for you. Include all of error message, yes all of it, and I'll be able to narrow it down to a hand full of specific things. Or Google them yourself, it not like it is anything secret to figuring this stuff out.
Also, did you upgrade your BIOS? Your mobo may be new, but the BIOS could be more than a few releases behind which could in fact solve all of your issues.
DarkslayrX
05-13-2008, 12:29 PM
I guess I am lucky - built my new rig over the weekend, did the initial start-up, popped windows install disc in and away I went.
Havelcek
05-13-2008, 12:53 PM
Where exactly in the process are you getting the blue screen? Is it before the windows login screen or after?
Ughmahedhurtz
05-13-2008, 02:35 PM
Have you verified the memory timings are set correctly for your RAM? Does it pass overnight stress testing with Ortho or Prime95?
Sarduci
05-13-2008, 02:39 PM
If you do run prime95, make sure to test all the cores and not just the first one.
shaeman
05-14-2008, 03:24 AM
Just to update you all - the blue screen of death was down to nvidia drivers nvlmm*.sys.
A common problem it seems. I tried loads of things, including getting various different drivers (even going to beta).
I turned off vista 64's insistence on properly signed drivers, and that didn't help.
I was checking in the bios when I noticed that cpu overclocking was set to auto, I took it off of auto and set it to the next option (would have gone on to the 2nd option if that failed) but all of a sudden the system booted up.
So I presume that the autoclocking mode was stressing out the graphics card so all was working well. I managed to install a set of usb dongle drivers that someone had modified (not an official release) and got the pc running.
Thanks for the suggestions. I will look in to upgrading the motherboard drivers.
d0z3rr
05-15-2008, 11:27 AM
So the manufacturer shipped out an overclocked unstable PC and Vista64 is to blame?
Crazy.
shaeman
05-15-2008, 01:12 PM
d0z3rr ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=1697') , A bit uncalled for dont you think?
Did you read all of the thread or did you just read my first post and my last post - and completely miss the fact that I stated that it wasn't vista's fault and that it was probably third party drivers.
(that's my second post). I then thought it was a drivers issue - as the error message I got related to a known problem with nvidia and vista. I then corrected this incorrect assumption.
So I don't see anything crazy in the posts - just a progression from being frustrated and thinking it was vista - to posting corrections to my post so that others wouldn't think it was down to vista.
Thanks to all those that tried to help and posted something constructive.
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