Keyclone stops responding [Archive]

bruzer100

05-12-2008, 05:39 PM

Hi there - have been using Keyclone for awhile, but after the last couple updates, I've been having a problem.

my setup - 1 WinXP machine (Main), 1 Vista32 (2nd, 3rd). I have the keyclone on the WinXP machine set to broadcast only. things run fine for awhile. sometimes a long while. other times, keyclone on the Vista machine stops responding. if i try to use the UI in keyclone at all, it will be locked up completely (ie, clicking "Setup" doesn't open any dialog). the keyclone on the WinXP machine is fine. using taskmgr, i close the keyclone process on the Vista machine, restart, reconnect to the WinXP machine, and i'm running again. sometimes it will last for hours after i reconnect, other times no more than 30secs will pass and keyclone will lockup again.

any thoughts? i love keyclone, and have bought several copies. i'll prolly just deal with the lockups, but would be nice if anyone had ideas on how to fix it.

thx!

Korruptor

05-12-2008, 05:59 PM

What version are you running?

keyclone

05-12-2008, 06:25 PM

bruzer... send me your system-ids and let me see if i can figure out the issue

Anastasiya

05-12-2008, 07:29 PM

I've been having the same problem now that i've set it up on 5 systems. for some reason one will always drop but the other 4 will remain connected leaving me with 1 clone that won't respond to anything. Not sure if there is a limite to the # of keyclones that can be chained together but i'm sure its some kinda of bug... Currently using 1.8h on all 5 machines. going to try 1.8i a bit later tonight see if that fixed things up.

Anastasiya

05-12-2008, 07:50 PM

Still getting the problem with v1.8i where 1 copy of keyclone will get booted out of the group for some reason. happens sometimes as soon as i log in so 15-30 sec in, or can take several hours. restarting the affected computer will get it working again, but causes another copy to get disconnected. i've also noted that the port numbers increase by 1 each time i restart keyclone on that machine, but they reset to the correct 1322 when i reboot the machine affected. i'll keep things up to date as i find out more about the problem.

Ana

bruzer100

05-12-2008, 10:23 PM

posted a PM to you, keyclone.

thx!

keyclone

05-12-2008, 10:25 PM

if the port number increases.. that is because you had another keyclone running at the same time blocking the port.

make sure keyclone is not running and reset the port to 1320

ahnubis

05-12-2008, 11:15 PM

that does not happen to me as i only run 1 keyclone and 5 wow's on 1 pc, so not to sure whats going on with that but if I notice anything strange I will let you know asap.

Caellin

05-13-2008, 04:13 AM

I did have problems with 1 of my keyclones locking up on an older computer, it almost always locked up first time I ran it. But after I turned of the overlay reminder it never locked up again. I never seen it happen on any of the other 4 systems I been using ever, but always on that one until I turned off overlay reminder.

And I don't have that computer now so I can't test if it still locks up.

I have to add I have been using the same graphics card on the replacement system, and that worked perfect also.

Otlecs

05-13-2008, 04:57 AM

Just to add my voice to this as well - as I mentioned in another thread, I have the exact same issue - Keyclone often (maybe once an hour or so, though it often goes a whole day without any problem) locks up for me. Sometimes the UI closes but KC remains running, sometimes the whole thing hangs, but either way I need to kill it with the task manager.

keyclone

05-13-2008, 08:31 AM

i am unable to reproduce this behavior (spent 3 hours playing last night.. and 2 during the day... nothing)

please make sure you are on v1.8i

Anastasiya

05-13-2008, 01:01 PM

Hey guys,

I had Keyclone crash on me about a dozen times last night playing with 1.8i (program not responding problem). I don't think it's a problem directly related to keyclone as keyclone him self was not able to replicate the problem. it's something else to do with windows or another program, as i can just have 5 Keyclones running with nothing else and they are all stable and work fine. Going to play with my addon's when i get home and see if that might have something to do with it.

My current addons are Omen, Trinity Bars, Outfitter, Pallypower, Whisper relay

I'm also using a N52te and i'll check to see if maybe that is causing the problem.

Keep posting if you notice any other problems so we can track down this problem..

Ana

Darm

05-13-2008, 01:37 PM

I have the same problem as well.

I'm using Vista, and every 30 minutes to 2 hours, keyclone will not respond or broadcast any commands. I'll have to enter the task manager to kill it, and then restart. It happened 4 times to me last night during the course of 30 arena games, I don't know if furious button mashing could somehow provoke it (rapid combination of shift or control characters??)

I'm using version 1.8i on both main and the other PCs. I had this problem occasionally with previous versions, but it seems worse lately.

I'm not sure what extra information I can provide that will help. Is there anyway to set keyclone so that it will generate an error message that might help to track this problem down?

My port isn't always 1320, but i wonder if it always needs to be that. I'd presume that shouldn't make a difference as long as I'm able to establish a connection between all the machines at the beginning.

Anastasiya -- I'm not using any of those addons at all that you listed, so the problem doesn't seem specific to those addons at least.

ahnubis

05-13-2008, 03:28 PM

it appears that the shift key is causing the keyclone to stop responding and getting stuck in a loop. If I press shift again it appears to clear it up. i am using strict white list.

Scottslegacy

05-13-2008, 11:46 PM

it appears that the shift key is causing the keyclone to stop responding and getting stuck in a loop. If I press shift again it appears to clear it up. i am using strict white list.i been testing this with LoTRo, and noticed that too, when i used hotkeys that used the shift key, like shift & 1, shift & 2 after a bit it would lock up keyclone and would have to restart keyclone by closing it in task manager, i rebound the keys to alt &1 and alt & 2 and etc... and havn't had keyclone crash yet.

Otlecs

05-14-2008, 04:30 AM

Is there any chance of getting an old (1.8e perhaps) Keyclone distribution posted?

Although I recognise the value of it, I personally don't need *any* of the fluff that keeps getting added - I just need a reliable inter- and intrra-host key broadcasting app.

Cheers.

�eceased

05-14-2008, 06:44 AM

I've also been having this problem. i have one vista (4 clones) and one Xp machine. they both tend to lock up at least once every 2 hours, with the Xp machine sometimes going a little crazy on me and locking up as soon as i maximise WoW again :S
all v 1.8i
for your ports issue, could it be that if you were to go into taskmanager you would see a few Keyclone.exe things running? might be making it more unstable with every new one you open too :S shouldn't require a whole system reboot tho.

I'll try this shift thing out later.. If it is that, I dunno what I'm going to do :P I abuse the shift key no end.

going to try this overlay reminder thing too

bruzer100

05-14-2008, 04:08 PM

the "Shift" key is my bet. I use a Fang to pass things like "Shift+t", "Shift+i", etc. i never thought to try hitting Shift again to see if Keyclone would recover. I'll switch over to using Alt, or just remove modifier keys althougher, and see if that fixes it. :) thanks a bunch for responding guys!

Darm

05-16-2008, 01:27 AM

I changed all of my macros from those that have "Shift-<key>" to "control-<key>", and this did not fix the issue for me.

Keyclone will run perfectly fine, and then unexplicably wil stop working and I will have to go to the task manager to kill it. It seems to happen the most often in battlegrounds or an arena, I'm not furiously pounding keys, but I suppose I am hitting them quickly.

This appears to be a difficult bug to reproduce, but it does happen with some regularity. In the last 2 hours of PvP, I had to kill and restart keyclone 3 times.

Stabs

05-16-2008, 02:37 AM

I have only just started using Keyclone a few days ago and I seem to be having the same problem.

I use 2 computers and have tried logging into wow and not touching anything and walking away, by the time i come back one keyclone has crashed(always the same computer). I use sysnergy at the same time and it seems to block synergy when it crashes, synergy will start responding after i have killed keyclone in the task manager.

Any idea's?

keyclone

05-16-2008, 02:40 AM

if you have any problems with keyclone not responding or crashing... please send me your system-id, system specs, and the version you are running... and i'll check to see if there is anything i can figure out.

@bruzer
since i have not heard from you... should i assume your problem is resolved? yet you continue to post questions. hmmm

kayb

05-16-2008, 10:43 AM

This issue started with the 1.8h release and has been reported many times now. Something changed with 1.8h release, and it seems to be affecting many vista users. I have gone back to my 1.8g backup. I have no mousewheel support, but at least its very stable.

Scottslegacy

05-16-2008, 12:29 PM

Just an update, Im still having the not responding issue, it seems to happen randomly at times, between both compupters. i thought it was to due with the shift key, but even after changing the keys the next day im still having the problem, im currently at work right now, but when i get home ill send you the id's and specs of the computers. I am using windows xp on one computer and vista on the other and I am also using Multplicity for using one keyboard and mouse on both computers. Btw this is happening with LoTRo, i have not tried it on WoW yet. The issue started with 1.8h for me as well, and carried on to 1.8i.

keyclone

05-16-2008, 02:34 PM

i'll continue looking into this tonight / this weekend. i was playing last night for about 2 hours... no problems. that doesn't mean there is no, problem.. it's just not apparent on slower hardware (i'm guessing mine is probably slower then most of the rigs here)

if i find the issue, i will post a release immediately.

Ughmahedhurtz

05-16-2008, 03:08 PM

Lemme butt in here for a sec. I have a suggestion for you guys that are having problems. Do the following steps and report the results back to Rob:

Run keyclone and WoW and get it all going and working normally Right-click your taskbar and select Task Manager In Task Manager, open the View menu and click "Select Columns" In the "Select Columns" dialog that appears, check the boxes for Virtual Memory Size, Handle Count, Thread Count and GDI Objects Click OK. Expand the Task Manager window so you can see those extra columns. Write down the values (or take a screenshot) for the keyclone process. Play normally until it locks up on you. Go back to Task Manager and record the info for the keyclone process. Send the before and after data to Rob so he can tell what the process is doing to resources.
This may give him some more data to work with and identify a problem area or, conversely, eliminate some possible culprits.

Hope this helps. ;) Intermittent problems that aren't reproduceable on the dev machines are a bitch.

Fathom

05-16-2008, 03:16 PM

Might it have something to do with Sticky Keys?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_keys

kayb

05-16-2008, 04:21 PM

Not sticky keys. I have removed it from my vista.

Ramesses

05-16-2008, 10:28 PM

I am also having this freezing problem. I just purchased 2 licenses, unfortunately the software is not useable. I am excited for a fix for this, because I got a little teaser and really like it.

I have two instances running on two seperate machines. One machine is a laptop with vista 64 bit(laptop_stats) and one is a desktop with XP, the desktop is older(desktop_stats). I can connect fine, I have my do not pass setup as a whitelist to only allow 3 keys or so.

For me the crashes seem to be more frequent, i can connect the machines together and keys get passed but after 5-10 minutes one client crashes on one machine and I have to kill it via task manager as others do.

Hope this helps, I am willing to send any info you need, I'd love to see this resolved. Thanks, and keep up the good work - this product is really cool!

Laptop_stats.txt ('http://files.filefront.com/laptop+statstxt/;10244404;/fileinfo.html')
Desktop_stats.txt ('http://files.filefront.com/desktop+statstxt/;10244416;/fileinfo.html')

Ramesses

05-16-2008, 11:30 PM

its been working for about 45 mins now, i have hit the shift key a few times, no crash yet. Maybe it is random, will let you know if i find anything else out.

Ringko

05-20-2008, 04:16 AM

New to the world of multiboxing, and dualboxing a couple of lowbie shamans myself, I'm unfortunately in the same boat as these gents, having problems with Keyclone going into 'not responding' mode.

It's happening randomly as well; I'll be moving around, laying waste on critters, with the clone assisting me - rinse repeating - and then suddenly I'll notice I'm not getting the support from the clone I'm supposed to be getting. I then find the connection to either machine dropped in Keyclone and the dropped client gone into the 'not responding' mode.

I've tried running versions 1.8g to 1.8i, and it's happening in all of them.

(Main on Vista [run as administrator], clone on XP).

It's a great piece of software, and dualboxing is a lot of fun (collect quests excluded - I'm happy I don't pentabox!)... but it's a bit disheartening having to "lose focus" every so often.

Lokikinator

05-22-2008, 04:38 AM

Hi,

I have been multi-boxing for a little over 2 months, in fact it was three-instancing since I only used one computer and Keyclone (Awesome soft there I have to say) and randomly the modifiers key wouldn't be transmitted to one of the clones. Not the end of the world.

I just received my new computer and changed my toons' set up to 1 on my old comp (1 proc 1 core) and 2 on the new one with on each of it's core (1 proc 2 cores, I really recommend this for those like me who have limited budget, it costs a lot less and the perf is here). I launch Keyclone, all the toons, synch the Keyclones and ... modifier keys never make it to the other pc (in WoW at least).

I know it has been posted before, I post now to present a (very) simple and effective way to still be able to use "/*function*" with your toons :

Go into the key settings of all toons (even the main) and find the "use /" (I'm really sorry, I'm French and use a French client so you'll have to look for this one) now assign it to what ever key you want that doesn't require shift to be pressed, I use ":" but there again my keyboard is AZERTY :P.

When your done, hit the key and all toons should begin a chat line with "/" and you can type "lick". Just an example thought ;).

I don't know if I've been clear enough with this post; do not hesitate to reply for clarifications. It really helped me bypass this (little) crack in Keyclone's wonderful software that makes multi-bowing so easy :thumbup:.

Ilion Sturmlied

05-22-2008, 11:01 AM

I have the same issues.

But I assume right now, that another programm is causing it.

I'm looking into it this weekend.

Ramesses

06-12-2008, 04:40 AM

still having this problem. I am using an xp desktop and a vista laptop. keyclone seems to freeze randomly on both machines. sometimes it works fine for up to 2 hours, but sometimes it crashes 3 times within 5 minutes. Its really strange. Im using basic keyclone settings with a white list of only a few keys.

One thing i am a little unsure about is how to connect the computers. Right now i have them both setup to automatically connect to each other. But should it be just the main computer connects to the slave? and not both?

Thanks.

Frosty

06-12-2008, 08:05 AM

keyclone

06-12-2008, 08:12 AM

i usually would set the slaves to connect into the main using the auto-connect feature.

The Xar's

06-13-2008, 06:27 AM

I had the same problem, its vista that causes this problem.
I got it with a lot of games etc (like if you start a game from the CD it will give the same error)
I solved it with getting version 1.7, that works perfect for me.

Ramesses

06-13-2008, 07:07 AM

I have a sneaking suspicion its vista causing the crashes too.

I am on a wireless router, but I did go to "cables" to see if that would fix it. Still got the crashes.

So I assume there is no new news on this issue?

I guess the good news for me is I will be eventually running 5 instances on a single machine so that should eliminate the crash problems. But until I build my new PC ill just have to deal with it like i have been.

keyclone

06-13-2008, 09:33 AM

i am working on the next version... and some people are trying out the alpha to test and see if these issues remain.

i am hoping for a release this weekend.

Ramesses

06-13-2008, 09:34 AM

i am working on the next version... and some people are trying out the alpha to test and see if these issues remain.

i am hoping for a release this weekend.

Wohoo! Thats great news! Thanks for the update :)

Noodlez

01-21-2009, 02:57 AM

Hey guys! I love Keyclone and m-boxing so, but I'm having the same deal...except my desk(Main/local) is xp pro 64bit, and my slave is a laptop, xp pro 32 bit.
The stats didn't rweally change that much when the keyclone stopped working
Stats:
Before:
Desk- Laptop-
VMS= 9092/ 6672
HC= 617 /668
TC= 13 /12
GDI= 99 /119

After:
Desk-/ Laptop-
VMS= 9012 /6882
HC= 500 /666
TC= 12 /13
GDI= 99 /119

It's done this with or without Synergy on. It's always at random times, whether in battle or standing still. I run ver 1.8k/1.8.11.
WSG was no fun yesterday, lol.
Thanks in advance :D