R.I.P. Versi

[Taffy]

I was smacked with the ban-hammer tonight. I figured it would happen, as I've read about accounts having to be resolved.

So...I have a quandry...and I should have done this from the beginning. But I was in such a hurry to get started.

I had my main account. With my raiding priest and the warlock I've been playing from day 1. My account. I'll get that back, no doubt. Although it is in my ex husband's name and I may have to contact him. <cringe>

Second and third accounts...ones bought...registered in my name and my fiance's. I'll get them back. No big deal.

The third and fourth accounts. They were old friends'. "Meh, not going to play anymore...you can have it." Those were the ones I was worried about boxing with. For obvious reasons.

So...not being able to get Versiv and Versiz back...looks like I'll camp the Versi girls. Hey...you break the rules, I guess.

Went to the store...bought two more to replace the lost ones...waiting for responses from Bliz on the other three, now.

So....I start a-new.

Might go with those candy names I had thought about...

[Knytestorme]

Although it is in my ex husband's name and I may have to contact him. <cringe>


Sadly, this one will most likely be lost as well. If it's in his name, and you were using it then that's still going to be account sharing. Depending on how things are with him, he may let it be used again once he gets all the forms to blizz but I'd still suggest you don't use it again as it will just be a cause for getting banned again if it's not in your name.

Best bet is to just get one more new boxed set and, depending on the level and class of the two accounts that you will 99% get back or willingness of guildies to help, boost them up to match the levels of your chars. That way you at least only have to level 3 rather than 5 :)

Also, just like to say it's nice to see someone accept their punishment properly even if it sucks to have happened.

[Stabface]

Sorry to hear you got accounts actioned against. But of the accounts you listed, you are likely to only get the one account you own back -- that is, the account that is registered in your name. The 4 accounts in your ex-husband's, fiance, and 2 friends names are not yours. Blizzard *will* unban the other accounts - but only if the person who's account the name is in follows the necessary unban steps. And if they are unbanned and you continue to play them, then Blizzard will most likely hand out a permanent ban for all 5 accounts.

I'm sorry and I don't mean to be harsh, hopefully this doesn't cost you your mains but since that account is not in your name then you are going to need some luck to get it back. If you do get it back then do NOT multibox with it, I really recommend not playing it at all since it's against the ToS to share accounts no matter if you multibox or not.

Your only safe option for multiboxing is to buy 2 more accounts so that you have 5 in your own name.

[Skuggomann]

Skuggo simpathisis with you :( still i agree with Knytestorme, if your gona have to get them upp gain y not get them all to 70 on yoru name? to exclue further "stuff", dont what to lose that acount wen ther all lvl 80 and blzz changes the rules XD

[Diamndzngunz]

OUCH! :( Sorry to hear. I hope all gets better tho.

[Maz]

Bummer!

My advice is to dump any account that's questionable and replace them. Hopefully you'll have at least one toon on the accounts you have left that's a viable booster.

Take the opportunity to start a new team... and a blog... and post loads of instance vids and...

[Tonuss]

Sorry to hear about it. Stabface is right, by the way-- Blizzard will only recognize those accounts that are in your name, so out of the five that you were using, you will likely only get back one. Your ex-husband and fiancee might help you get the other accounts back, but you will risk another account action if you use them. Blizzard is pretty strict about the rules regarding account ownership, because it protects them from problems that may arise when there is a dispute over an account.

Painful as it is, you might be better off purchasing four accounts and putting them in your name, and that way you will have five accounts that won't be subject to action for account sharing. Best of luck!

[The-Fallen-Frog]

I had this happen to me too unfortunately -- fortunately(mmm sounds weird!) my guys were only lvl 30 then!

I believe the moment you get reported (as a farmer or anything like that), they check your accounts information and if they dont meet their standards( same name, same billing etc) they will put the warning hammer(or ban hammer if youve done naughty things before!) on them.

So I can only wish you some fun times leveling some new toons again :) thats the risk you take when you multibox with friends account

[Tdog]

Yea I'm bascially going thru the same thing atm. When I orginally bought the game back in sept. 2005 I bought a copy of wow right before I had to go to work not thinking that it was going to take hours to install. So I let my roommate at the time go ahead and finish installing it. I came to find out like a month later that he without thinking about it put his own name into the account creation. We then bought another account which LOL accidently got put into my name, then we found out that you couldn't switch toons between accounts. He eventually stopped playing so I started using the 2nd account to use my paladin to carebear dual-box (this is long before becoming a 5boxer).

Then once transfers became available he wanted his paladin off the 2nd account. Well I bought a copy since I took the 2nd account and the doofus put it in his name :P So he had to buy another account, put it in my name and transfer his paladin off :P Since then when I did become a 5 boxer I bought a few more accounts and put 1 in my name and 2 in his so I could spread out my existing toons over 5 accounts. THEN, I finally for the first time came here seeking a program a boxer on Cairne server recommended called Keyclone, and while trying to figure out how to get everything to work found out what exactly account sharing meant and that I was in violation of it :( Well seeing as how I had a grand majority of my 70's on the very first account we had bought which was in my now ex-roommate's name I was like F that. I got like 300 days played on all those characters combined not to mention I DID infact pay for all the accounts I was playing on.

Well I figured I'd just stay in instances and such and try to stay unnoticed so I wouldn't get any little morons thinking I'm botting report me then the GM's be like "well he isn't botting but he is account sharing." So finally in the end I never did get caught account sharing but I did finally think about it and I figured, you know what I know how to level extremely fast by this point in time. Multi-boxing is what really interests me and I want to have a couple of 5 team's, I'm most likely going to eventaully get caught and lose 3 of those accounts which knowing my luck will be after I've already spent 100's of badges on gear and who knows how many hours. So I finally just thought to myself, 'You know what, I'm going to eventually get caught with all the attention that Multi-boxing brings and lose those accounts anyways. The toons on those (accounts with my roommate's name) don't have any kind of major gear on them, and if I'm going to lose more than half my multiboxing team I might as well just restart now.'

So basically last week I called up my ex-roommate, told him that we are switching accounts, and that lucky ass punk got 6-70's, 4-60's, 3 of my 5 warriors I'm multi-boxing with, all of which are 7 of the 9 classes in the game in exchange for his 1 level 67 human paladin >: ( . But O well sometimes life sucks and at least now when I walk around in capital cities I don't have to dread and worry about, 'damn it I hope the 10 annoying little kids following me around don't report me for something stupid and a GM figures it out.'

[Rangvald]

I thought that there was no bannable offence in multiboxing :O

[StormClouds]

I thought that there was no bannable offense in multiboxing :OMultiboxing in and of itself is not bannable, how ever account sharing (or using someone elses registered account) is a bannable practice.


Still this is a bummer of an occurrence to someone who isn't actually account sharing, but has inherited someone elses accounts. Yes I draw the line a little differently and have no say at all in it and my opinion differs from the line blizzard has drawn. But hey its my opinion =P

[Tonuss]

I thought that there was no bannable offence in multiboxing :OThere isn't. Account sharing can lead to a ban, whether you multibox with the accounts or not. Blizzard is very strict about this.

[Eteocles]

A little TOO strict, in my opinion...if you have a good reason/explanation and had it transferred to the new name with both parties' written, notarized consent it should be allowed or something...but with 10million players I suppose it's the only way they can do for now lol

[Taffy]

Well still actively trying to get what I can back...but.

Five fresh accounts. Five new girls incoming.

Licorice and Lollipop have already been made. (Before my credit card company stopped my card due to "repeated charges"...now I'm on the phone sorting THAT mess out) <chuckles>

I'm very thankful for my passive attitude.

[Ðeceased]

Soz to hear about your accounts. I do hope you are able to retrieve your characters but I have an inkling that it might be difficult. Blizz seem to be somewhat lenient when it comes to retrieval of accounts within a family. not sure about ex family members tho :S They expect there to be some confusion within a family as to who is and isn't allowed to play. *fingers crossed*

I have to say I do think the best idea is to start anew and simply get all your accounts on the same name. If you manage to move your mains onto those or get you mains account name changed to your own I guess that would work out too.

[Eteocles]

Lord poor Trikk lol; still get any accts restored you can and use the gold on those to get yer new ones back up and running =x After you strip 'em who cares what happens to 'em(even for the 1 or 3 you DO legitimately have); if you haven't bought 'em all yet try to at least get the one legit account back and match the new ones to that one lol, save what you can

[Awbee]

Can't wait to see you back online and not just "Dishearted"

[Taffy]

That's the plan.


Although...I will have to contact an in game GM. The gm of <PSHA> is on one of the unrecoverable accounts. :(



Can't wait to see you back online and not just "Dishearted" <3

[Eteocles]

I'm sure they're able to force-switch(or manually log into it and change) the Guild Leader in cases like this...I hope lol, can't hurt to ask

[Chrysanthe]

I'm very thankful for my passive attitude.Lucky you.. I got a pretty violent temper X(

[Jaws5]

Sorry to Hear about you problem. Starting over could realy be bad. If you wanted to start over on Horde side I would be gald to help boost some of you toons up.

I have 10 70s on horde side of feathermoon. Any ways hope you all the best

[Vyndree]

Still this is a bummer of an occurrence to someone who isn't actually account sharing, but has inherited someone elses accounts. Yes I draw the line a little differently and have no say at all in it and my opinion differs from the line blizzard has drawn. But hey its my opinion =P

Yea, the key point is that blizzard doesn't recognize any sort of "inherited" accounts unless you can actually show proof of death and that the deceased willed their account access to you (yes, I heard a story where this happened).

So, unless the person who's name is on the account died and willed their account to you and you're willing to go through the legal mumbo jumbo of faxing all the proof to Blizzard.... there is no transfer of accounts.

(EDIT: One other caveat is ONE minor child may share their guardian's account until they turn 18. Once turned 18, the formerly-minor child's characters may be transfered to a legal account of their own)

[Silly Gooooose]

I thought that there was no bannable offence in multiboxing :O

that's not multi boxing, it's playing a friends accounts (in blizzards eyes anyway). Playing an account that isn't regristered to you is against their ToS.

[Ðeceased]

Still this is a bummer of an occurrence to someone who isn't actually account sharing, but has inherited someone elses accounts. Yes I draw the line a little differently and have no say at all in it and my opinion differs from the line blizzard has drawn. But hey its my opinion =P

Yea, the key point is that blizzard doesn't recognize any sort of "inherited" accounts unless you can actually show proof of death and that the deceased willed their account access to you (yes, I heard a story where this happened).

So, unless the person who's name is on the account died and willed their account to you and you're willing to go through the legal mumbo jumbo of faxing all the proof to Blizzard.... there is no transfer of accounts.

(EDIT: One other caveat is ONE minor child may share their guardian's account until they turn 18. Once turned 18, the formerly-minor child's characters may be transfered to a legal account of their own)

hmm I'm going to have to include WoW in my will now!?!? oh poo.. so much for keeping in to one paragraph :P

[Stabface]

I think contract law > divorce law, but I could be wrong :)

[Vyndree]

Include the WoW accounts in the divorce paperwork, then the accounts are tranfser to the spouse by order of the court maybe? I'd like to see Blizzard deal with that one. :P

It'd be interesting, considering sharing an account with your husband/wife is still considered account sharing.

[Jaws5]

For account sharing , if all are in same name and come from same IP address or range, then you don't have to worry much.

[Vyndree]

For account sharing , if all are in same name and come from same IP address or range, then you don't have to worry much.

I'll make a very quick friendly reminder...

http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Board&boardID=31

If it is against the ToS of the game you are discussing it is against dual-boxing.com’s community guidelines to discuss ways of breaking said ToS. We are COMMITTED to keeping our hobby 100% compliant with the ToS of any game we play.

I just don't want the thread to go off-topic. :)

[Taffy]

For account sharing , if all are in same name and come from same IP address or range, then you don't have to worry much.

I'll make a very quick friendly reminder...

http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Board&boardID=31

If it is against the ToS of the game you are discussing it is against dual-boxing.com’s community guidelines to discuss ways of breaking said ToS. We are COMMITTED to keeping our hobby 100% compliant with the ToS of any game we play.

I just don't want the thread to go off-topic. :)

Agreed. Broke the rules...now I have to deal with it.

Perhaps I can be used as an example. You really need to be careful. Obviously multiboxing draws a lot of attention.

[Jaws5]

<Removed -- let's keep the discussion to ToU/EULA-abiding topics -- even if you think you can get away with it. I did warn you above.> --Vyndree

[Xaedra]

Sorry this happened to you, Trikk. I was always checking the armory page of Versix ('http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Feathermoon&n=Versix') to check on your progress :) Are you going to be doing x5 Shaman again, or something else?

[moosejaw]

I am so glad I read this thread. I created 2 new trial accounts to replace the 2 accounts that are not in my name. I do not want to tarnish the multi-boxing community in any way :D .

I only have to catch up 3 levels so no big deal here. I'll continue to do my dailies on the other accounts but I will delete the shaman I made.

[Vyndree]

Agreed. Broke the rules...now I have to deal with it.

Perhaps I can be used as an example. You really need to be careful. Obviously multiboxing draws a lot of attention.
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Yeah, what's done is done Trikk and I'm glad you're honest about it. It really helps to show the level of severity that comes about... Most people who just start the hobby don't realize how devastating it can be to lose accounts due to something completely preventable like this, and I hate hearing stories of the time and effort invested into these accts when they go down.

I just laid out my friendly reminder since these tend to get out of hand once they start rolling. As long as people aren't giving you advice on how to break the rules again I'm happy. :)

[Taffy]

Sorry this happened to you, Trikk. I was always checking the armory page of Versix ('http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Feathermoon&n=Versix') to check on your progress :) Are you going to be doing x5 Shaman again, or something else?
I made 5 more shaman...I do want the 5 shammy team at 70. It sounds like so much fun.

But now...that I have time to think about it. I love raiding. I loved my priest..mage..warrior..and my warlock.

I've been throwing it about in my head to get a multi-class team to 70 before WotLK comes out. Then I can hop back into the raiding scene.

[NevadaGuy]

You are to be applauded for your good attitude over this.

If I may ask, was this for account sharing or one of the win trading scenarios?

Great to see you have it all back together and starting your new team, PINK is the new black!

[Taffy]

What I lost my accounts to was considered account sharing.

[Jorai]

i am sorry to hear of this, i also hate this policy (though understand all the headaches it saves their company and why it's necessary), my first account was a git in my bosses name but log-in name is a website i own, he thought he'd have to put it in his name for billing and then could switch it - WRONG! :{

then i was SO SMART to drunkenly register an account in a pen name i use....it's so weird how things seem funny late at night and then a week later you realize you're an idiot haha ugh

soooo i wound up starting up 2 new accounts - my friends thought i was nuts to start over but most people don't realize just how many times you can get reported

so it does suck to start a multi-box team over from the ground up but i'm sure you feel great knowing that this time it's truly 100% legit. good luck with the new accounts and just try to enjoy leveling again.... i actually had a ton of fun re-leveling 2 of my warlocks to catch up with the one that was "legit" ....if anything.... TIME TRAVEL RP!

[The-Fallen-Frog]

I firmly believe that this issue ( Account sharing and multiboxing -- what you gotta know) should be stickied for future members to see and educate themself on how blizzard deals with this issue.

it's not the first time I see posts about this problem and I think a nice sticky would probably help solve future trouble for future multiboxer.

thats only my humble opinion

[Havelcek]

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation...it sucks when "normal" people get scooped up in the dragnet when the game is full of people exploiting their way along with no repercussions. The unfortunate reality is that when you are multi-boxing, you are going to get reported, and the GMs are going to look at you closely.

[Tehtsuo]

Seeing this made me glad I decided to bite the bullet and get my ducks in line before I ended up as a target. Posted Account Shenanigans ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=36977&highlight=#post36977') asking for information, got some really good answers from the community, and got all my accounts legit. It wasn't cheap, but nothing about this hobby is. I am glad I did it though, I'd hate to lose an account for such a trivial matter now. Honestly, it'd be great if everyone spoke up like you do when something like this happens to increase exposure, and I think it should get a sticky/bang on the front page, and definitely a wiki article. I think everyone who even thinks about multiboxing should see within seconds of visiting this site that they need to make damn sure they have 100% legit accounts, no ifs ands or buts.