Big change coming :D

[geoffdavison]

So totally no geek related.. decided to start training for triathlons.. hoping to lose some weight and trim down..

My current build is more linebacker... I always get comments of "did you play pro ball.. etc".. kind of over being the big guy that everyone asks to help move furniture...

So dropping 700 bucks on a bike and going to hit it hard... :D

Don't know why i'm posting here.. maybe it will help keep me going

[Ðeceased]

oo what distances you looking at for each leg?

hope you don't mind me asking but have you looked into the diet you are going to be on for your training? am training for a 10k run atm and got stuck at around 50 mins :S am only really getting somewhere now that I changed my diet (seems training is 40% work 60% diet). Not diet as in eating less, but eating properly :)

Has helped that my dad recently became a personal trainer :) (exploiting family :P ) might be able to answer some questions you might have :)

[geoffdavison]

Mostly just starting the training to start and move into diet modification next... although i am going to be cutting out all the "crap".. no more cokes :(

i've been doing research and the most common theme seems to be increased periodicity and interval training.. one week longer runs and the next doing intervals...

[Stabface]

GL man, been dieting and working out myself since December. Lost about 25 lbs so far, 25 more to go.. my goal is by the end of the year and as long as I stick with it I'll make it for sure, early even :)

And yeah, get your diet sorted out. No, don't starve yourself but eat healthy, smaller meals and more of them. It is the key to losing weight. You can work out all you want but if you are eating junk, too much calories or a bad balance of fats/carbs/protein then you'll have a hard time.
I eat about 6-7 times a day, just less portions of what I normally eat, anything from a 1-200 calorie snack to 5-600 calorie meal. I cut back heavily processed foods and simple sugars and, that's basically it. No magic diets or any of that crap, just keep an eye on you calorie intake and eat quality foods. For example yesterday I had a bacon cheeseburger for lunch, today, I had pork roast with gravy and mashed potatoes and vegetables for dinner -- eat what you want just eat less of it is the key! I aim for a 2200-2400 calorie intake daily as thats what I need to lose about 1 lb a week.

[Ðeceased]

been looking at some insane training programs recently :) the UK marines need on average around 6000 calories a day to maintain their bodyweight any less and they would shrivel away :S


coming back to our own diets tho :) as Stabface said small meals is the key. You'll need to maintain your protein levels throughout your training but not in the way most do with shakes, a steak or whatnot.
Your body can only absorb around 25-28grams of protein with each meal you take in, so eating a stake for instance, means all but those initial 25g is going to go right into your fat deposit around yer belley (not assuming that you have one, just in general).
This would be the number one reason why 80odd% of the UK or US population have a protein deficiency whilst still, eating a lot of meat!

on average you will need around 1gram of protein per day, per Kg of body weight if you are not training. that number goes up to 2gperdayperKg if you are doing intensive training. Triathlon training would put you at around 1.6g (2g is seriously only for top athletes)

I'll use my body weight as an example.

73Kg*1.7= 117g of protein a day divided by 25g per meal means I am looking at around 5-6 meals a day depending if I eat protein with every meal.

Calorie wise, stabface is spot on. try to stick to the lower limit at first, and slowly increase it as you start loosing weight. I know this sounds counter-productive but there is a reason behind this. Assuming you haven't done too much training in the past, your muscles will attempt to build up more muscle fibres then a normal person (it seems roughly in the first week or two of training, going from absolute 0, that the body drastically increases its energy consumption), to which you must make enough protein and energy available once you start training. Keeping to lower calorie diets for an extended period of time usually results in your body acctually converting muscle fibres back into energy if you aren't providing your body with enough.
The average male would burn 1800 calories if he were to lay in bed all day and not move. Your body functions require an amazing amount of energy, so those spare 400-600 calories are what you should be looking at using up each day on training (roughly an hour of cycling at my weight)

Oh and head down to the gym if you haven't already! :) you need to build up your muscles for strength too, otherwise you run the risk of damaging your knees when you start training for the running part of your tri (I know too many ppl who have ground their knees down because of their lack of strength training :S ). Besides when you start building up muscles you'll be burning more calories even when your not training ^^ = more fat loss although not necessarily weightless :P

[Tasty]

I ate three pieces of steak yesterday /flex (Lemon peppercorn ftw) Thats right lemon on steak.


The average male would burn 1800 calories if he were to lay in bed all day and not move. So if I sleep in till 3pm I'll be burning around 900 calories without doing anything!? :P

Also good luck with your training :)

No more cokes :( I feel your pain :(


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[Ðeceased]

I ate three pieces of steak yesterday /flex (Lemon peppercorn ftw) Thats right lemon on steak.


The average male would burn 1800 calories if he were to lay in bed all day and not move. So if I sleep in till 3pm I'll be burning around 900 calories without doing anything!? :P

acctually you will have burned 1125 (from midnight to 3pm :P -15hours), but careful, resting doesn't mean sleeping as such, just not active. When you are resting your Heart Rate, gastrointestinal functions, brain activity, muscle activity (even tho your are resting) will increase quite substantially vs you sleeping.

there's a simple calculation you can use to work out how much energy your body uses up in complete resting (not sleeping)

Age----------------- Male-------------------Female
10 - 18 ------ 17.5 x W + 651 ------ 12.2 x W + 746
19 - 30 ------ 15.3 x W + 679 ------ 14.7 x W + 496
31 - 60 ------ 11.6 x W + 879 ------ 8.7 x W + 829

where W is your weight in Kg


Note: this is just an average, it depends a lot on your metabolism and hundreds of other factors. intelligence for one :P only jkin :) But things such as temperature, etc stress... list goes on and on

[Binaryzero]

I can tell you cutting out the "Crap" foods (or carbs) helps alot, I dropped 20 lbs (not that I was THAT bad, but...) just by cutting out sodas (diet included) and other sugars. Thought I really would not call it such, what I do is close to the Southbeach diet. It list out the good and bad carbs and how much of each you can have and hope to lose weight.

Good Luck, with your training. I have a great bike but until the kids are out of school, I will not have the time to ride it :(

[Dawnstone]

My weakness is Mt Dew at the moment. What did you all switch to when soda wasn't an option?

[Niveous]

Lost 150 lbs over the last 6 months just by eating better; no exercise involved. I started drinking Fresca instead of pop, I actually like it better.

[Stabface]

I switched from sodas to tea & coffee for my caffeine, actually, when I stopped drinking soda I actually gave up caffeine entirely for 2 months (hardest 2 months of my life!)
Mostly I drink water though, around 2-3L per day. More if I work out.

[Tasty]

Anyone know if you can get diabetes from drinking too much softdrink?

[Marathon]

Triathlons are hard core bro !!! I have been serously running for the past year and been in pretty good shape the past decade. While I have not done any triathlons I did run 2 marathons this past season and plan on running 5 this next year. Drop me a line if you have questions on running long distances. And if anyone is in the San Antonio area I will be there in Nov for thier 1st Rock -N- Roll Marathon.
Good Luck on the training !!!!

And oh yeah your "DIET" is major important !!!!

[Oswyn]

P90X may be an option for training. This is not a beginner's workout so you should be in decent shape to start.

[Ðeceased]

Anyone know if you can get diabetes from drinking too much softdrink?

well first things first. type 1 could affect anyone, pretty much, if they are genetically predisposed. Altho most people get it in childhood or early puberty (It can occur at any age though)
Your immune system normally creates antibodies designed to attack bacteria etc. As this can be classed as an auto-immune disease, it is suggested that in a person suffering from Type1D, the immune system creates antibodies that attack parts of your pancreas (stopping insulin production). There is often a trigger such as a virus involved and you usually you have to be genetically predisposed to the disease.
Although I think that the exact conditions to get type1D is still not fully understood.
Typ1D = nothing to do with softdrinks :)


Type2D on the other hand is almost always (there have been some very rare exceptions) a direct result of obesity and malnutrition.

To answer your question tho: a bit of yes, but mostly NO.

NO because it is not a direct cause of diabetes. If you otherwise eat a relatively health diet, do some exercise, are not overweight etc, then no, even eating lots of sugar regularly will not cause it.
It wont help matters, if you are overweight, do no exercise etc but it is not a direct cause. It only is a cause in the sense that it will add to your calorie intake, weight and malnutrition (if that is all you eat) which in turn can cause diabetes. But as such, no.

So if you are overweight, do no exercise, and apart from a sugar obsession, don't eat healthily, then yes it may cause it, and you should stop taking in as much sugar, look into a good diet and exercise routine, loose some weight and then, if you wish to carry on with it, begin your sugar obsession again^^ (although not entirely recommended)

That's all I know on it so myself :) so I hope i haven't made some silly mistake. Pls correct me if I'm wrong :)

[Djarid]

been looking at some insane training programs recently :) the UK marines need on average around 6000 calories a day to maintain their bodyweight any less and they would shrivel away :S
a 1 man 24 hour ration pack contains 5000 calories and is plenty in temperate climes even for the Royal Marines. Arctic Rations however have 7000 calories :)

used to do the old 8 mile (12.8Km) Combat Fitness Test in 72 minutes that is with helmet, rifle (we are talking SLR (FN FAL) here not the SA80) and 44lbs of kit... damn I miss the days when I wasn't 3.5 st overweight... still I have my bike and the mountains here to try and get through it ;)

[Ðeceased]

a 1 man 24 hour ration pack contains 5000 calories and is plenty in temperate climes even for the Royal Marines. Arctic Rations however have 7000 calories :)

used to do the old 8 mile (12.8Km) Combat Fitness Test in 72 minutes that is with helmet, rifle (we are talking SLR (FN FAL) here not the SA80) and 44lbs of kit... damn I miss the days when I wasn't 3.5 st overweight... still I have my bike and the mountains here to try and get through it ;)

the UK is nigh Arctic!! :P

I'm a little concerned, because I'm acctually inclined to apply just for the training :pinch:
For now I'll see if i can use any of their training methods at home :P although it's going to be hard to fit 4-8 hours of workout into my 24 - 12 (for work) - 8 (for sleep) - 2 (6xeating) = 2hour day

[Djarid]

lol at my peak ~ 21/22 I used to compete for the regiment in Rugby, Swimming and Canoeing my week looked like this

Monday:
0800 Squadron Parade
0830 Garages - Work on vehicles
1020 NAAFI break
1040 Garages - Work on vehicles
1230 Lunch
1330 Squadron Physical Training (probably a 3 mile run or maybe football - Soccer for all those across the pond)
1500 NAAFI break
1520 Garages
1630 Finish
1700 River - Canoe training (1-2hrs)

Tuesday:
0700 Swimming Training (about a mile)
0900 Garages - Work on vehicles
1020 NAAFI break
1040 Troop Physical Training (probably a 3 mile run or maybe football - Soccer for all those across the pond)
1230 Lunch
1330 Garages - Work on vehicles
1500 NAAFI break
1520 Garages
1630 Finish
1700 Rugby Training or Weight Training with the Swimming team
2000 Tae Kwon Do

Wednesday:
0700 Swimming Training (about a mile)
0900 Garages - Work on vehicles
1020 NAAFI break
1040 Garages - Work on vehicles
1230 Lunch
1330 Sports Afternoon (which means a run unless you are involved in a regimental team ;) )
Either Canoe Training or Rugby Match
1630 Get Drunk :) (if a match)

Thursday:
0700 Swimming Training (about a mile)
0900 Garages - Work on vehicles
1020 NAAFI break
1040 Garages - Work on vehicles
1230 Lunch
1330 Squadron Physical Training (probably a 3 mile run or maybe football - Soccer for all those across the pond)
1500 NAAFI break
1520 Garages
1630 Finish
1700 Rugby Training or Weight Training with the Swimming team
2000 Tae Kwon Do

Friday:
0700 Swimming Training (about a mile)
0900 Garages - Work on vehicles
1020 NAAFI break
1040 Garages - Work on vehicles
1130 Regimental Physical Training (yet another run, the British Army likes its running ;) )
Often on the river doing canoe training... more fun that running :P
1430 Finish

I left in '97 so I have no idea what it is like now but I can't imagine it is that different