Awesome, some guy lies to Blizzard, and gets owned :)

[Stabface]

Cruising through the customer service forums looking for anti-MB trolls, I found this diamond of a thread! Read the posts by the OP and the blue responses. :)
Guarantee, you'll start hearing some sound effects from Unreal Tournament by page 2-3 :)

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6214101970&sid=1

[Khazrael]

This is epic.

[Vyndree]

Now you see why I <3 Belfaire. ;)

[Eteocles]

Quote for those of us behind firewalls?(Hey I'm not the only one just the first to ask ;) ) [/brokenrecord]

[Khazrael]

Whats funny is the guy just keeps trying to hold the facade. At some point you have to realize that you're attempt failed, and in trying to recover on it you're only making yourself look worse.

[Khazrael]

OP:

Recently my account was victim of a rather strange incident. I left my house leaving my wallet and nephew at home due to an untimely emergency. when i returned home i found that my nephew had used my information saved on MY computer that my browser auto-saved to log into my worldofwarcraft.com/account screen and transfer my level 70 Warrior who was on Aegwynn (pvp) to Rexxar (pve). He wanted me to play with him but took it a little too far.

So. ive disputed the charge made aginst my bank account and went through the whole account recovery process and blizzard still says that they are unable to reverse my transfer even though after talking to numerous people on the phone i was told that account admins COULD revert pvp to pve transfers if made fraudently.

So, imo if you want to move just dispute your charge after you move... if blizzard dosent care about real unauthorized account activity i dont see why they would think any different about fake activity either.

First Blue Post:

Okay, so.

We're more than happy to reverse unauthorized transfers; the rep you spoke with was correct in that regard. What perhaps wasn't extrapolated was that we require some form of hard evidence, or at least reasonable doubt, via our internal tools to make this ruling. Your transfer fit, roughly, none of these parameters.

To recap, where "the perpetrator" is the initiator of the transfer in question:

• The perpetrator was able to access your account.
• The perpetrator had access to your previously-used credit card.
• The perpetrator initiated the transfer from your home computer.

Now, it would have to be a pretty big coincidence that it was still an illegitimate transfer with these facts in mind--but, I wasn't ready to doubt its plausibility completely just yet.

But, then--

Let's make another list.

• Just prior to the transfer, you spoke with a few guildmates (who were account sharing, by the way--bad news!) about transferring to Rexxar, with people confirming with you that that was the destination realm. One of them requested you call them to confirm.
• Your transfer coincided with a number of other guildmates transferring to Rexxar, just as indicated above.
• Upon arrival, you announced to your friends that you had finally transferred and immediately started doing Shattered Sun Offensive dailies.
• You lamented the raiding guilds on Aegwynn while applying for new guilds on Rexxar.
• Two days after transferring, you requested that your recently-purchased Vanir's Left Fist of Savagery be refunded.
• Not a word was ever spoken to anyone about this transfer being against your will.

See what I mean about it being tough to verify?

That's the real meat of it. It continues on from there, but I won't post the whole thread in here.

Added some formatting in an attempt to make things clearer

[Havelcek]

It never ceases to amaze me how people try to spoof Blizzard when there are so many perfect demonstrates of the depth of their tracking and audit ability. They always seem to know exactly what a given player did, said, to whom, and when at any point in history.

[Eteocles]

Rofl, uber-pwnt. Mind posting the OP's followup responses? They've got to be rich :p

[tigger2577]

This just goes to show Blizz can check and look up everything you type in game so if you don't want anybody to know what you are saying then don't type in in wow because it can be found.

[Eteocles]

Makes you think about those people who cyber on RP servers doesn't it? Bunch of pervs at blizz perusing those logs... ;)

[Khazrael]

Rofl, uber-pwnt. Mind posting the OP's followup responses? They've got to be rich :p

Op follow-ups

id like to know how this was possible, because i logged off immediently after my guild killed archimonde. noone in my guild was transfered along with me, and my account was locked because of security issues in the first place, not because i had an unauthorized transfer.

per wowaccountadmin's email:

Greetings,

An investigation of your World of Warcraft account has found strong evidence that the account has been accessed by someone who is not allowed to use it. The account has been disabled, so that you can regain sole and secure access. If you use a credit card to subscribe, it has been removed so you are not charged while the account is disabled. Please keep this email until you have regained account access.


i can for sure tell you that i was not the one on my account when whatever you said happened happened


id like for you also to track on my account if you would what the characters said that were on illidan and arthas both "full" servers when i did regain access, both were lvl 1's and id like to know if it was gold spams or what the deal was.

Blue


I misspoke when I said that the transfer was undertaken on your home computer; it was a different local computer. Pardon the confusion.

The conversations in question, though, happened just before and during the Archimonde fight. And the security steps were taken because you eventually reported the account as compromised when the Paid Character Transfer reversal was denied.

It's not my intention to make you out to be a liar here, just to show you why the decision will likely stand.

OP

i really wish you would get what your saying straight.

1st of all there are no other computers on my network... i dont even have a network. its a modem plugged straight into my computer.

no guildmates were transfered

i did NOT deem the account compromised and when it was locked i was actually playing and was pissed as hell.

but anyways, whatever. 3 months logged into my computer isnt worth the headache that this piece of !!#! game gives me anyways.

[Eteocles]

Bwaaaahahahaha, that's pretty bad...he's calling them liars when they have local records that can't be disputed lol, jeez the balls on that guy...and thanks Khaz, I appreciate the time ya took :p

[Stabface]

Quote for those of us behind firewalls?(Hey I'm not the only one just the first to ask ;) ) [/brokenrecord]

Google cache will get you the 1st page... I think there is a way to get additional pages but since Blizz forums use URL parameters to paginate then I'm not exactly sure how to do this... I'll look and see.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6214101970

[Eteocles]

Yeah I tried that already stab, it seems the firewall we use parses the URLs for the offending site name and in most google caches, the full url is still in the actual url; I end up at the same old websense "THIS SITE IS BLOCKED, CUT IT OUT LOLZ" walled garden lol; tried it on wow forums, my guild site and wcradio(which they just recently added to the filter list >.< so no more listening to non-downloaded-to-mp3player at work damnit)

[Stabface]

If it's just checking the URL then you can simply replace any domain in a google cache link with whatever you like and still get to the page... But I believe websense parses the HTML to decide if it's blocking something or not. For example this link will take you to page 8 of the thread, I just replaced forums.worldofwarcraft.com with google.com in the URL, it still works because of the cache ID (nX8h9CVna7gJ)

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:nX8h9CVna7gJ:google.com/thread.html%3Bjsessionid%3D3CDDD22D93AA74BE38D7C0B 62C9141C8.app09_05%3FtopicId%3D6214101970%26sid%3D 1%26pageNo%3D8+http://google.com/thread.html%3FtopicId%3D6214101970&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

But it doesn't look like google cache caught anything but page 1 and page 8 anyhow.


There are ways around any firewall, but, best to just check it from home or whatever so you don't get banned from your job ;)

[Eteocles]

Yeah that's why I don't press too awful hard once websense decides I've had enough ;p Though the day they block these forums is the day my last little ray of sanity is taken...I'm thankful so far they didn't block db with wcradio and I'm hoping they'll be merciful and leave it be since I only poke around between cases or on downtime lol

[crzywolve]

wow .. just ... wow

I lol'd in RL and my co-workers had to come and see why I was laughing. :D :D

[marvein]

I wanted to keep a record of this historical ownage to laugh at later so here are some screenshots of the highlights.

obviously that isnt the whole thread since its 8 pages but that is most of hellsbellz posts and all of belfaires responses. The rest is mostly comments like the last two lol.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/pik4chu/liarowned.jpg

[Gadzooks]

It never ceases to amaze me how people try to spoof Blizzard when there are so many perfect demonstrates of the depth of their tracking and audit ability. They always seem to know exactly what a given player did, said, to whom, and when at any point in history.Honestly, this blows the "You're only multi-boxing to sell the accounts" whiners out of the water - Belfaire addressed it before, that they can detect quite a bit more than people think, and it's likely that someone churning accounts on a regular basis would be flagged in some way.

Remember that for the next idiot who accuses us of it in the forums. :)

[Yamio]

F-F-F-FATALITY is too fitting.

[Skuggomann]

HAHA god i love Belfar, hes got a big book of facts hidden somwere XD