Third time's the charm?

[cepheus]

My first team was a prot paladin and 4 priests. This was made when TBC was released, and I dont think multiboxing yet was very common. I first got the idea from some interview I read about Xzin and really had not heard any other doing it yet. My main goal for this was pve, and it worked pretty well.

But after a while I got bored of pve and thought that battlegrounds could be more fun. However my bloodelf team(no wotf) wasnt very suitable for this so I made my new team with 1 priest and 4 locks. So, after levling these guys, getting every honor gear piece possible i wanted to try some arena. While it worked ok on some fights, it wasnt really successful, and I cant really see how it could work very well in high ratings with 4x warlocks. (Allthough this teamsetup is awesome in BG)

So I was off to level my third team, this time a 5x shaman team that I atleast know at this time is possible to get at higher ratings. It is not very original, but it seems like it is the most viable setup atm, so I'm going to give it a shot.
I started the team 17 days ago, and hit lvl 61 yesterday (17 irl days, not played, atleast it goes faster to level up when you allready have boxed up two teams before :P ) At 60+ the xp required for each levels is raised with a large amount. Is there anyone that have any idea how long I should expect to do the remaining 9 levels? Cant really recall how long it took with my warlocks/priest,much less my pally/priest team.

Anyway, is there any other 5-shaman boxers that is doing arena together with another player that heals? If so, I was wondering how you are managing the macros and stuff when you rotate in and out each of the fights? Have you found any fast/easy way to switch out who's doing what without having to rewrite your macros?

Well I hope this is the last time I decide I need to reroll because I'm getting a bit tired of levling now :sleeping: . A little tip to make time pass faster while you're doing boring quests is to make some mediaplayer "allways on top" and have it hover above your UI. Makes it easyer to both watch a movie and multibox at the same time :D (Maybe even helps your brain to multitask better at the same time :P )

[Skuggomann]

HAHAH Razordeth yoru such a noob :D 15 lvl 70 guy's is wack maaan!!!

I cant w8 to meat you wen i start WoW again :D , i wanta rape stuff with you ;)



and O btw:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/skuggomann/GRATZZZZZZ.gif

[cepheus]

Hehe, thanks skuggo. I should also mention that I also have 5 other lvl 60+ toons, so that would make my total 10x lvl 70's + 10x lvl 60+ atm :P

Feeling a little bad for my other toons since when I start some new project, my old ones tend to die out and just collect dust ;(

[Skuggomann]

Changed your sig a bit:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f361/skuggomann/WOW/undirskriftir/signr3_edit.jpg

[cepheus]

well, soon it is the zogzoon/zogzaon/zogoan/zogzuon/zogzoun's :P
This time I made the names so it would be a bit more difficult to tell them apart :)

[Gallo]

As you level, check out the wiki posts on 5-shamans in PVE. Lots of juicy info. Good luck!

[cepheus]

As you level, check out the wiki posts on 5-shamans in PVE. Lots of juicy info. Good luck!

Yea, thanks, I checked them out, and there is some good info on strats for different instance bosses. That will come in handy as I aim towards beeing honored with most of the factions when I hit 70 to get most of the new pvp pieces right away. It will atleast give me a bit better start in the battlegrounds :)

[Tdog]

When I want to have a bit of fun I jump on my 70 warrior and 70 druid and head for the BG's. Throw on some hardcore techno or static-x, whatever I'm in the mood for, and start tearing shit to pieces :)

[Codam]

atleast it goes faster to level up when you allready have boxed up two teams before :P
Especially when the new team is done post patch 2.3 ;)

From the patch 2.3 notes
"The amount of experience needed to gain a level has been decreased between levels 20 and 60. In addition, the amount of experience granted by quests has been increased between levels 30 and 60."

[Manaburner]

Cepheus you're an animal!

Very nice! My shammies are level 26 now. Love the ghost doggies :)
Yeah my locks are sitting on epic flyers and are relegated to dailies detail. I love learning new teams and strategies. Who knows, maybe in WOTLK maybe locks will become overpowered again ;)

[cepheus]

Cepheus you're an animal!

Very nice! My shammies are level 26 now. Love the ghost doggies :)
Yeah my locks are sitting on epic flyers and are relegated to dailies detail. I love learning new teams and strategies. Who knows, maybe in WOTLK maybe locks will become overpowered again ;)

Yea, atleast I have a nice collection of team-possibilitys when wotlk releases :) I also hope that I will reach lvl 70 before season 4 hits so I have can gather some pvp gear before I get seriously outgeared.

I was also saving for epic mounts on my locks. I have bought for my priests but have a bit over 10k g now for my locks (luckly I was smart enough to not buy them one at the time). I think I will save those money untill I have enough to buy to everyone,then I will decide wich team I really want to play

[Skuggomann]

O Btw im gona continue with my shammys now, names are:

Cloneone
Clonetwo
Clonethree
Clonefour


Seya ingame :)

[rorek]

names are:

Cloneone
Clonetwo
Clonethree
Clonefour







roflwinbbqsaucepewpew

[Silly Gooooose]

I personally haven't done any arenas yet because I am 69, but I plan to start arenas the minute I hit 70. I am going to try it with a rogue or warrior first, though I will try it with every class over time. I want to do the rogue / warrior, because that momentary charge / stun will be enough for me to kill some one.

[Kyudo]

and so we meet Ceph :D nice one.... you steamrollered me a bit there! but then again you did seem to have half the hordies all watching your back.... was fun, hope to meet you in there again.

Murmas btw :D

[Skuggomann]

and so we meet Ceph :D nice one.... you steamrollered me a bit there! but then again you did seem to have half the hordies all watching your back.... was fun, hope to meet you in there again.

Murmas btw :D


My shammys are on the same server :) so get prepaird to get spanked :P

[cepheus]

I dinged 70 yesterday with my new team. 1-70 in 4 weeks and with about 9d /played. (yes a lot of hours each day :P )

Then I got 15x lvl 70:)


and so we meet Ceph :D nice one.... you steamrollered me a bit there! but then again you did seem to have half the hordies all watching your back.... was fun, hope to meet you in there again.

Murmas btw :D

Yea, I thought it was you. I sent you a pm before reading this post. I usually play with a couple of friends, so that helps a lot. Just a question, do you use grounding totems? I was afraid that my cd's would be eaten by groundings, but they got through suprisngly often.

Anyway fun playing against another boxer. Hope our paths cross again some day :)

[Kyudo]

Well I put 1 grounding in my 1st general PvP totem cycle. I have a caster cycle which starts with 4 groundings, but I dont use it that much and I'm kinda not used to the keybind it is on. Kept gettign caught on the hop too in that match... ressing and running straight into combat to stop a flag getting capped or whatever...

I was impressed though, you have it working smooth, was interesting to see how it felt being on the other end of... nice, I am at 100%... doh, I'm dead :D

[cepheus]

This time you rolled over me :D

But you killed my AV winning-streak :( I had just won 18 AV's in a row :)

[Kyudo]

This time you rolled over me :D

But you killed my AV winning-streak :( I had just won 18 AV's in a row :)Nice streak :O

I played AV so much this weekend, that by the time you met me last night, I was pretty organised with some crafty tactics that seemed to work about 80% of the time. And following our last encounter I now have 3x Grounding in my 1st totem cast sequence instead of just the 1.

Was funny seeing how your alts acted when the leader went down, that 2 or 3 seconds of inaction as you switch leader is so familiar, just made me giggle seeing it from the other side.

I'll look forward to the next encounter :D

And Skuggo? Where were you dude? We need to trade storms :D

[Skuggomann]

Some gay homo love going on in the BG?



I played AV so much this weekend, that by the time you met me last night, I was pretty organised with some crafty tactics that seemed to work about 80% of the time. And following our last encounter I now have 3x Grounding in my 1st totem cast sequence instead of just the 1.
lol 3 or 4 grounding is must!!



And Skuggo? Where were you dude? We need to trade storms :D
Im lvlign as fast as i can! jstu dinged lvl 54 :) but i suck at pvp so you will steamroll me.
Also i dont like to swich manes, if my mane goes down its game over, i just w8 untill i get killed and rezz upp.

[Kyudo]

lol 3 or 4 grounding is must!!



And Skuggo? Where were you dude? We need to trade storms :D
Im lvlign as fast as i can! jstu dinged lvl 54 :) but i suck at pvp so you will steamroll me.
Also i dont like to swich manes, if my mane goes down its game over, i just w8 untill i get killed and rezz upp.Well my caster sequence had 3 or 4,and I was just referring to the 1st press, I have 4 by the time all totems are down. Changed now anyway, and works a treat vs casters, but weaker vs melee, so I've developed a different sequence for them.

As for switching, I also let them die if 2 go down, but if 3 are still there, I'll continue.

[cepheus]

That was one thing better with warlocks/priest. If your main died, I could just lifetap/hellfire myself to death fast. With shammys you have to depend on enemys to do the job for you.

What AV tactic do you use kyodo? For myself I find that the best tactic so far is to go up and kill balinda, then retake towers. I guess I also could have defended galvanger instead, but with my crappy gear I will just get zerged.

From what I could see, it seemed that you run right to FW, then defended the hill up there, where you killed me? I tried something similar with capping DB, then defend the bridge from recappers, but I did not have as much success with this as defending towers.

As for my totemrotation I put up all my groundings in my first click. It goes like this:
tremor,wrath,healing
grounding,tremor,poison
grounding,poison,tremor
grounding,healing,stoneskin
grounding,earthbind,mana

All fire totems are on diffrent buttons since they are used situational.

[Kyudo]

I've been spending this weekend experimenting with loads of different tactics, with varying success, the main thing I've learnt is to be flexible. Main principles as follows:

1) Watch the map regularly, and react accordingly, if all the team are going to Galv, dont bother... rush to FW, they can kill him without your help, and with your slower mounting, potential to get stuck behind stuff, and higher likelihood of getting aggro midfield you'll often turn up with Galv at 40% or less anyway.
2) I tend to ignore midfield, but if ANY of my chars gets aggro on the initial run across I'll immediately totem farm down and pwn as many as I can before remounting (also means I'll be too late for Galv).
3) If I'm guarding a tower or Gy and someone comes to admire or whatever I tell them politely to go elsewhere.... I only ever loose a capped objective about 5% of the time, if 6+ come, I pop elementals and call for help.

Tactics and their relative success are as follows:

1) Like you mentioned, rush straight to FW, about 70% success rate. I try to take a wide line past FW as there are often many horde there defending, then jump the fence. This often means aggroing Jortek the elite guard, but he goes down quite quick. If I arrive alone, I'll cap the GY and wait. If others came too, I'll cap a tower or tell them too while I guard.
2) Galv -> TP, slower, and depends on the intelligence of our team, particularly stealthers to go and cap FW. 60% or so.
3) Balinda defence. Varied..... I dont care what anyone says, Balinda is still so much easier than Galv, but that's beside the point. If I do this approach, I tend to wait till at least 5 or 6 horde are inside, then rush in, drums of panic, kill as many as I can and hopefully wipe them. If I release and there is a short res timer, I'll go back again, but she's normally down in under a minute with 6+ horde (try that on Galv :O).
4) Defend a choke and recap - 40% or so.... Again really dependent, but I hate towers, no matter how much experience I have I still get stuck on stairs or fall down with alts, and it's too easy to LoS us.... Easy enough to defend one, as you can get in position and totem farm in advance, but assaulting? I hate it..... This approach tends to lead to really long HK games too.... all defending horde and ally, /yawn, too slow hon for me.

The variation.... I've learned to time my recalls! :D A well timed recall if offense is going well, or if I think I might be able to turn the tide on a game thats going bad can be such fun. I tend to res up, shield up, Naaruu then Recall.... As I arrive if horde have the GY, I'll pop my melee totem sequence including drums of panic, and run towards vandarr... Then depending on the # of enemies around I'll either recap GY and towers then SP, or run to Vand and try to force a pull (pets and dumb warriors <3). If it's a last ditch attempt to stop Vand dying, I'll try to get in and blow up the tank, again drums of panic and elementals if they are up.

On totems, I am 40/0/21, so no fire on normal PvP sequence, my main sequence is:

1)Tremor, Wrath, Wrath of Air, Healing Stream
2)Grounding, Posion, Wrath, Earthbind
3)Grounding, Tremor, Wrath, Mana Spring
4)Grounding, Wrath, Healing, Stoneskin

For when the warriors/rogues jump me I use a totally different cycle:

1) Poison, Fire Nova, Earthbind, Grounding
2) Tremor, Magma, Drums of Panic, Wrath of Air, Healing Stream
3) Nova, Grounding, Tremor, Manaspring, Drums of Panic
4) Nova, Drums of Panic, Stoneskin, Healing, Grounding

Spam those drums lol, often means that I can fear them twice when it works... and due to interrupts etc, I like how at least one goes off pretty quickly, gives time for a quick heal and a spread out before pwning.

I also have fire on numpad keys, but I only really use that for PvE, might be good to use in Pvp in some situations I guess, but that melee cycle works for me.

[cepheus]

Thanks for your tactics sharing :D

I will maybe add more later when I get a bit more expirience with shamans in AV.

Just a little remark:

I agree that towers really suck for assaulting, but it is quite possible with some expirience. I have as maybe you know, pvp'ed alot with my priest/warlock group, so I know exactly how to get up the stairs fast without getting stuck. It just takes some practice. As for Los'ing, I agree that this is the worst part. But I usually succeed when recapping towers, unless there is ALOT of defense.I try to get inside the room before I do any fighting, and burn my NS/EM/CL combo there,+5x fire nova totems.This clears out quite a bit :)

a little tip:

When you get the hang of taking the stairs, also throw down totems while running up. They have very long vertical range, so you usually get their buffs if you put them down in the stairs. I also allways pop bloodlust when running up.

[Kyudo]

a little tip:

When you get the hang of taking the stairs, also throw down totems while running up. They have very long vertical range, so you usually get their buffs if you put them down in the stairs. I also allways pop bloodlust when running up.Yeah I drop the 1st two sets of totems as I enter, then the 2nd two as I arrive at the higher levels.