Rob's (Keyclone) Setup?

[Gallo]

I tried to semi-derail a thread when asking this before and it didn't pan out... so, I wanted to ask you here. I'm sure that inquiring minds would like to know what the developer of keyclone does with his WoW time. What sort of class setup have you been using? I saw you mention something about 5x Orc Warriors 0.o 5x melee must be tough eh?

[Eteocles]

Aye for such a helpful often-posting guy you sure are secretive about your ingame habits ;) Tell us, tell us, tell us! All we know is you had 5 lv1 gnome mages in your sig video and the 5x orc warrs :p What lvl? Do you use focus, party1, nodead macros? How awesome does 5 simul-whirlwinds look? :P

[Gallo]

How awesome does 5 simul-whirlwinds look? :P

Sweet jesus... 5x Sweeping Strikes, Recklessness, Whirlwind

[Kaynin]

But what about rage? Which will always be quite different per char and such. Eventually you just end up spamming buttons. Oo

Sounds well hard. :p

[Sanctume]

Interesting. I been recently playing my 70s to do the IQD dailies: Prot Pally, Arms Warrior, Combat Mace Rogue, and a Holy/Disc Priest.

Paladin Keys:
1: /castsequence reset=30 Seal of Righteousness, Judgement
2: /cast Judgement
3: none
4: /cast Exorcism
5: /cast Holy Shield
H: none

Warrior Keys:
1: /cast Slam
2: /cast Mortal Strike
3: /cast Thunderclap
4: /assist focus
5: /cast Charge
H: Move Forward

Rogue Keys:
1: /cast Exiscerate
2: /cast Sinister Strike
3: /cast Cheapshot
4: /assist focus
5: none
J: Move Forward

Priest Keys:
1: /cast Shoot
2: none
3: /cast Smite
4: /assist focus
5: /cast Prayer of Mending

My key mashing after acquiring a target is: 5, 4, 3, 1, 2, 2, 1.
Adjust the melee via H and J. But the mobs are usually dead by then

[Havelcek]

I heard that he has a special version of keyclone that makes him macaroni-n-cheese.

[Gallo]

Interesting. I been recently playing my 70s to do the IQD dailies: Prot Pally, Arms Warrior, Combat Mace Rogue, and a Holy/Disc Priest.
My key mashing after acquiring a target is: 5, 4, 3, 1, 2, 2, 1.
Adjust the melee via H and J. But the mobs are usually dead by then

No offense to your setup, but why wouldn't you rearrange your keys so that your sequence would be 1,2,3,4,5,5,4 or something more in order? :)

[Sanctume]

No offense to your setup, but why wouldn't you rearrange your keys so that your sequence would be 1,2,3,4,5,5,4 or something more in order?That's because I use the ~ (tilde) key for Execute and Hammer of Wrath, so I find it easier to spam the 1 and 2 keys.
I suppose 1 and 2 keys are what I spam when I was playing Prot Warrior pre-tbc.
And when I switched to a Prot Pally, my habit remained to spamming 1 & 2, and my fingers are close to the strafe keys for easier positioning.

[Gallo]

Ahhh, I can see that. For my shammies, I place my keys 1-9 in the order that I use them the most. 1 is lightningbolt, 2 is chain lightning / trinket macro, 3 is earth shock, 4 is frost shock, etc. So I end up doing... 1,1,2 or 1,2,3 or something like that.

[Diamndzngunz]

I had talked to him yesterday, he just rolled 5 warriors. Just to try it out. But he also has 5 mages. Does he play alot? Not really, most of his time is done helping out the site and other people with their problems.

[keyclone]

:D

well.. the 5x orc warriors is a test i decided to try the other day... and so far, it's just fun. i ran into itm last night.. sat on vent and talked about movement issues and what not... basically, i slacked off last night and didn't do much 'tech support' and actually played.

my background:
i created keyclone about 2 years ago.. for shadowbane. i was a nonstop fiend with it and it was devasting to my enemies. in the end, after seeing keyclone and what i could do... stray bullet effectively changed the motto of the game from "PLAY TO CRUSH"... to "PLAY TO CRUSH... a little".. and promptly nerf'd the targeting system in an effort to eliminate multi-boxing.

about that time, i had to travel for work.. and was away from a month or two before BC to last Christmas. while on the road, i did what i could for people, but couldn't really multi-box myself (my laptop could handle 3 wows... but the bandwidth sucked hard). so i did mostly tech support, developed keyclone, and lived vicariously through others. since being home, i have sacrificed my wow time and spent it helping people get into multi-boxing, supporting the community, and improving keyclone. in the end, i think it's paid off and there seems to be quite a few people that are thrilled to find multi-boxing so accessible.

so yea.. last night was fun (thanks itm), and i'll probably play all weekend (oh no.. slacker Rob surfaces!) :D

as for my gear, my home setup is very ghetto compared to some of the beastly rigs i've seen here. my rig was put together about 2 years ago, and i'll probably update in the next couple of months (or this weekend if it drives me crazy).

i'm running 1 desktop (AMD64 3500+ 2.2GHz single core w/ 3G ddr2 and a single 8800GT OC running xp), an old laptop (4+ years, 1.5GHz single core w/ 1G ddr2 and 64M integrated ATI radeon mobility running xp), and a newer laptop (dell insipirion, 1.5 GHz dual core, with 1G ddr2 and integrated video w/ 256 SHARED memory... running vista.. sucks)

i would typically run 5 across all 3. when i got the 2nd monitor on the desktop, then i ran 2 on the desktop, 2 on the old laptop, and 1 on the vista box (it couldn't run 2)

but when i deployed PiP.. well... my laptops haven't been used much since. i run my main on one screen and a 2x2 on the other. all in 1280x1024 horizontal span, which i found gave better fps then dual view. the big win was the bump to 3G from 2G of memory... once you get to about 80% of physical memory, xp starts to swap.. and the thrash dance starts (you don't want this). the 8800GT OC w/ 512M is also a very nice win (and pretty cheap)

i'm getting about 30 fps on the main and 10 fps on the alts, with enough left over for my browser, irc, IM, and vent. remember, this is a single core... and an old one at that.

it's very playable in the field, but lags hard in orgrimmar. PiP swap can take time, but the focus-follows-mouse is almost perfect since i put in the 8800. i have plans on upgrading to a quad core.. but i'm dragging ass a bit on the purchase (it'll be about $1000)

my other groups have been 4xmage + 1xpriest... all but 1 has been horde (sorry alliance)... but someday (maybe soon?) i'm going to go back and level up 'the girls' from the video. my intention would be to have a 3-5 minute video showing action shots as they level up from 1 to 70.. with very cool background music like Vyndree does (I WANT VYNDREE BACK!)

ok.. that's enough of a wall-o-text for now. if i keep the orcs passed 10, i'll post some pics

side note:
blizzard needs to add something like /ham-it-up which would have the character strike some random pose looking at their current target .. the picture taker

see y'all on the irc/vent. have a great weekend!

edit: i was so tired last night (basically drolling in my shoes).. i forgot it was itmonkey, not guurb... sorry buddy

[Gallo]

Haha, nice write up Rob. I always knew that keyclone must have been born from having multiple ghetto rigs laying around the house. And you're right, your work has paid off. A lot of people have entered this community since the Fall, and a lot of it has to do with you, Freddie (AHK developer), and The Octopus developers. I'm sure the lost time playing is slightly compensated by licensce fees :)

[Eteocles]

Nothing's keeping Vyndree from being here, there's "Ignore eteocles" functions both on forums and in her mind, up to her if she shows up or not ;p

So as not to be a bitter post, I think I'll inflate your ego a little rob and say a big honkin THANK YOU for sacrificing your time for Keyclone :p It quite frankly has opened up multiboxing to alot more people and made it sooo much simpler/easier(with features) on those who already were boxing with other solutions. Your time spent hasn't been in vain and is much much appreciated :p

[Tdog]

:D

well.. the 5x orc warriors is a test i decided to try the other day... and so far, it's just fun. i ran into itm last night.. sat on vent and talked about movement issues and what not... basically, i slacked off last night and didn't do much 'tech support' and actually played.

my background:
i created keyclone about 2 years ago.. for shadowbane. i was a nonstop fiend with it and it was devasting to my enemies. in the end, after seeing keyclone and what i could do... stray bullet effectively changed the motto of the game from "PLAY TO CRUSH"... to "PLAY TO CRUSH... a little".. and promptly nerf'd the targeting system in an effort to eliminate multi-boxing.

about that time, i had to travel for work.. and was away from a month or two before BC to last Christmas. while on the road, i did what i could for people, but couldn't really multi-box myself (my laptop could handle 3 wows... but the bandwidth sucked hard). so i did mostly tech support, developed keyclone, and lived vicariously through others. since being home, i have sacrificed my wow time and spent it helping people get into multi-boxing, supporting the community, and improving keyclone. in the end, i think it's paid off and there seems to be quite a few people that are thrilled to find multi-boxing so accessible.

so yea.. last night was fun (thanks itm), and i'll probably play all weekend (oh no.. slacker Rob surfaces!) :D

as for my gear, my home setup is very ghetto compared to some of the beastly rigs i've seen here. my rig was put together about 2 years ago, and i'll probably update in the next couple of months (or this weekend if it drives me crazy).

i'm running 1 desktop (AMD64 3500+ 2.2GHz single core w/ 3G ddr2 and a single 8800GT OC running xp), an old laptop (4+ years, 1.5GHz single core w/ 1G ddr2 and 64M integrated ATI radeon mobility running xp), and a newer laptop (dell insipirion, 1.5 GHz dual core, with 1G ddr2 and integrated video w/ 256 SHARED memory... running vista.. sucks)

i would typically run 5 across all 3. when i got the 2nd monitor on the desktop, then i ran 2 on the desktop, 2 on the old laptop, and 1 on the vista box (it couldn't run 2)

but when i deployed PiP.. well... my laptops haven't been used much since. i run my main on one screen and a 2x2 on the other. all in 1280x1024 horizontal span, which i found gave better fps then dual view. the big win was the bump to 3G from 2G of memory... once you get to about 80% of physical memory, xp starts to swap.. and the thrash dance starts (you don't want this). the 8800GT OC w/ 512M is also a very nice win (and pretty cheap)

i'm getting about 30 fps on the main and 10 fps on the alts, with enough left over for my browser, irc, IM, and vent. remember, this is a single core... and an old one at that.

it's very playable in the field, but lags hard in orgrimmar. PiP swap can take time, but the focus-follows-mouse is almost perfect since i put in the 8800. i have plans on upgrading to a quad core.. but i'm dragging ass a bit on the purchase (it'll be about $1000)

my other groups have been 4xmage + 1xpriest... all but 1 has been horde (sorry alliance)... but someday (maybe soon?) i'm going to go back and level up 'the girls' from the video. my intention would be to have a 3-5 minute video showing action shots as they level up from 1 to 70.. with very cool background music like Vyndree does (I WANT VYNDREE BACK!)

ok.. that's enough of a wall-o-text for now. if i keep the orcs passed 10, i'll post some pics

side note:
blizzard needs to add something like /ham-it-up which would have the character strike some random pose looking at their current target .. the picture taker

see y'all on the irc/vent. have a great weekend!

edit: i was so tired last night (basically drolling in my shoes).. i forgot it was itmonkey, not guurb... sorry buddyLOL this is actually really funny. I started up a Melee team multiboxing project that I almosted posted the details on the forums a couple of times now but my current post is rather long and rambling and I'm still editing it and trying to make up a couple of pics to explain a few tips on movement techniques. I was planning on working on it tommorrow and having something posted on it but since you guys are talking about it here I guess I'll give a couple of details now.

Basically I've run a couple of different groups just up to lvl 6-8 just to get movements down. 2x warriors, 3x warriors, 3x paladins, 5x paladins, 3x rogues, and I haven't yet but I'll probably switch my shamans up at sometime to enhancements to give a try. Anyways after messing around with all those groups I've discovered that while annoying at first a group full of melee is quite doable and I'm more or less getting about 95% of all swings in right as the swing timer resets.

I decided to start up a 4x Orc warrior 1x Orc shaman team and run them up until probably around lvl 30 or so...depending on how well it goes along the way.

CURRENTLY they are lvl 13.5 and are going through RFC. I've only had the time to kill the felguard demon boss a couple of times the past couple of days but I don't have work tomorrow and I'm planning on clearing the whole zone.

First Impressions:

The good: Not having to worry about mana and casting times and standing still is so freaking nice. You can dps on the run and I have yet to have to eat or drink. While yes you get hit more often than a caster team the warriors are more durable then my shamans.

The bad: With casters you do quite a bit of dmg before the mob even touches you. With a bit of practice you really can make your melee hit your target a very large percentage of the time, however there are sometimes that the mobs are being extremely difficult and getting all your hits in is an annoying task. Lag KILLS melee dps, especially when the mob bugs out and it looks like he is in one place frozen when in fact he is somewhere else killing your toons :(

Overall: So far I believe that this is very doable. I know that this is just RFC and later on some of the encounters become much less melee friendly but I'll tackle those challenges as they come. Either way if I do or don't make it work this is a blast which is what gaming and hobbies are really about in the end :thumbsup: