Not working... hrm..

[Zzyzxx71]

Currently I use a /cast [target=Shaboom-target] Lightning Bolt setup ATM.

This makes failover very difficult, if I lose the main, I have to continue targetting with the main. I'm looking into alternatives, and I'd prefer not to use focus right now.

I'd like to get away from hardcoding names into the macros for obvious reasons, and /cast [target=targettarget] PewPew works fine for my purposes.

So now I just need to handle the failover...

I've modified a macro in the "big wiki of macro's" and have come up with this..

/target [target=Shaboôm, nodead] [target=Shabôom, nodead] [target=Shabôôm, nodead] [target=Shàboom, nodead]
/follow

... but it doesn't work. I've killed the brain, but all it does is target the dead guy.

Ideas? Have I grossly missed a blatant error here?

[Khazrael]

I've been having this same issue as well. I did a search and went through some of the results, and most of what I've found involves using focus, which is actually what I was kind of hoping to avoid. I didn't want my primary macros (follow, assist) to rely on focus in case I wanted to use it for other things.

What most people seem to do though, is set the focus to their secondary target, or even have specific buttons mapped to focus the next target so they just hit that button to renew focus, then continue operating as normal. Definitely a viable solution.

[Chorizotarian]

I use this with a few tweaks:
Using action bar pages to free focus. ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=39052&highlight=page+switching#post39052')

If you're interested I can post my exact macros later. (At work filling out tax froms now, ugh.)

[Zzyzxx71]

Fixed it - isn't it always that you find the answer 3 minutes after posting? I was missing semicolons...

/target [target=Shaboôm, nodead]; [target=Shabôom, nodead]; [target=Shabôôm, nodead]; [target=Shàboom, nodead];
/follow

*sigh*

Ugh it's awesome to finally have failover.

[Khazrael]

Fixed it - isn't it always that you find the answer 3 minutes after posting? I was missing semicolons...

/target [target=Shaboôm, nodead]; [target=Shabôom, nodead]; [target=Shabôôm, nodead]; [target=Shàboom, nodead];
/follow

*sigh*

Ugh it's awesome to finally have failover.

Keep in mind there is still a downside to this. I still use my follow macros in combat if I don't want to waste mana and just want to melee something to death. This will actually change the clones target to the first person that meets the requirements. A simple press of your assist and you should be fine, of course, but I was hoping to find a way around having to even do that.

I wonder why /follow [target=name] and such don't work.

[thinus]

I wonder why /follow [target=name] and such don't work.

Perhaps because...

/follow name

works...?

[thinus]

Fixed it - isn't it always that you find the answer 3 minutes after posting? I was missing semicolons...

/target [target=Shaboôm, nodead]; [target=Shabôom, nodead]; [target=Shabôôm, nodead]; [target=Shàboom, nodead];
/follow

*sigh*

Ugh it's awesome to finally have failover.

Keep in mind there is still a downside to this. I still use my follow macros in combat if I don't want to waste mana and just want to melee something to death. This will actually change the clones target to the first person that meets the requirements. A simple press of your assist and you should be fine, of course, but I was hoping to find a way around having to even do that.


I think the OP stated that his abilities are used in macros with [target=targettarget] which means he *wants* his target changed. He does not use assist.

[Khazrael]

I wonder why /follow [target=name] and such don't work.

Perhaps because...

/follow name

works...?

It sure does smartass, but that doesn't help me if i want to add conditionals, such as exists,nodead, or to add a second target clause if the first one is not met.

Thanks for trolling.

[thinus]

I wonder why /follow [target=name] and such don't work.

Perhaps because...

/follow name

works...?

It sure does smartass, but that doesn't help me if i want to add conditionals, such as exists,nodead, or to add a second target clause if the first one is not met.

Thanks for trolling.

Please calm down with the name calling, you are not on the wow forums. You didn't specify anything about conditionals or different targets. I responded to what you wrote, I can't read your mind.

[Khazrael]

Please calm down with the name calling, you are not on the wow forums. You didn't specify anything about conditionals or different targets. I responded to what you wrote, I can't read your mind.

Yet rather then try to understand why someone might want to use such a thing, you choose to post inane responses to it that serve no purpose other then to be inflammatory. You're right, these aren't the wow forums, which is why there's no reason to respond with such mindless dribble as you did to my earlier post.

[Djarid]

Please chill guys... I have seen nothing but constructive posts from both of you on these forums... no need to create bad feeling now.

Khazrael, I understand that you may have felt that Thinus' comment was intended as a slap down but tbh I didn't read it that way and was a little surprised at the vehemence of your reply... I do believe that it was intended to be informative.

[Khazrael]

Please chill guys... I have seen nothing but constructive posts from both of you on these forums... no need to create bad feeling now.

Khazrael, I understand that you may have felt that Thinus' comment was intended as a slap down but tbh I didn't read it that way and was a little surprised at the vehemence of your reply... I do believe that it was intended to be informative.

Mayhaps that is so, but it feels more like a "I'm trying to be helpful while trying to tell you to learn 2 play lol" sorta way. At any rate, this did go on a tangent, and I apologize for that. One of the moderators should probably delete these responses as to not muck up a thread that might be helpful to some people.

[Stix]

if you /focus your clones to your main ..

/cast [target=focustarget, exists] <spellname>; <samespellname>


if your main is your focus and he /she dies.. your clone will still cast the intended spell on its current target.


NM just reread n saw the avoiding using focus part..

eep.

[Stix]

:edit for meh sake:

[thinus]

Please calm down with the name calling, you are not on the wow forums. You didn't specify anything about conditionals or different targets. I responded to what you wrote, I can't read your mind.

Yet rather then try to understand why someone might want to use such a thing, you choose to post inane responses to it that serve no purpose other then to be inflammatory. You're right, these aren't the wow forums, which is why there's no reason to respond with such mindless dribble as you did to my earlier post.

Your post was "I wonder why /follow [target=name] and such don't work."
My response was because "/follow name" does.

Let me rephrase, "/follow [target=name]" doesn't work because "/follow name" does (probably). The semantics of the command probably has something to do with why the mechanics are different. I am a software developer and semantics is a very clear indicator that different mechanics are in play. I assumed that people would reach that same conclusion after reading my statement.

You asked *why* it doesn't work, I answered your question. If you think the answers to your questions are mindless dribble perhaps you should ask different questions.

[Khazrael]

Your post was "I wonder why /follow [target=name] and such don't work." My response was because "/follow name" does.

And the way you stated it has no bearing on anything, I'm sure. Plus, clearly, I made it to level 32 without even knowing that. Go figure.


Let me rephrase, "/follow [target=name]" doesn't work because "/follow name" does (probably). The semantics of the command probably has something to do with why the mechanics are different. I am a software developer and semantics is a very clear indicator that different mechanics are in play. I assumed that people would reach that same conclusion after reading my statement.

I'm a software developer also, so I see what you're getting at. However Blizzard writes and defines the mechanics for the macros, they wrote /follow in such a way as to not allow [target=target] and along with it, the modifiers and conditionals you can add with it. They did it for a reason, perhaps to alleviate some potential botting/automation issue, who knows, I sure as heck don't, thus the question.


You asked *why* it doesn't work, I answered your question. If you think the answers to your questions are mindless dribble perhaps you should ask different questions.

Again, the way you answer the question bears a lot of meaning behind it. The way you posed the response, and the response itself, indicate that you either think the question was very stupid, or that I must have very little understanding of how a simple command such as /follow operates. Quite frankly I found the response insulting. People like you who post something like that, which is quite painfully clear to anyone who's multi-boxed for a level or two, are posting simply for the sake of posting, and not adding anything to the actual discussion. If you were confused what I was getting at, you could have asked for elaboration. If you didn't have an answer to my question, you could have not posted at all, yet you decide to post with:



Perhaps because...

/follow name

works...?

Which, in my opinion, is useless, mindless dribble that doesn't serve any purpose in advancing the discussion.

[thinus]

Your post was "I wonder why /follow [target=name] and such don't work." My response was because "/follow name" does.

And the way you stated it has no bearing on anything, I'm sure. Plus, clearly, I made it to level 32 without even knowing that. Go figure.

I have no idea who you are, what level you are, what experience you have and frankly I don't care. You posted a question, I posted an answer. I sometimes get so caught up in my macros that I try to do the complicated and fail miserably while the obvious is staring me in the face. If you want intelligent responses to your questions then phrase your questions that way. Again, I can't read your mind, only what you type.

Instead of taking the comment in good humour and rephrasing your question *you* chose to read it negatively and respond negatively and you continue to argue your weak case where I should have magically judged your intelligence and experience. Perhaps you should put a disclaimer at the end of your posts with your IQ, MENSA membership no and that all your questions should be pondered extensively and intelligently responded to as the questions may look simple at face value but actually require deep thinking into the motivation and reason behind the question.

It was a simple question and I gave a simple answer and you exploded into a froth at the mouth rage because you see the response as an attack on your intelligence or something equally stupid. Are you insecure about your intelligence?


However Blizzard writes and defines the mechanics for the macros, they wrote /follow in such a way as to not allow [target=target] and along with it, the modifiers and conditionals you can add with it. They did it for a reason, perhaps to alleviate some potential botting/automation issue, who knows, I sure as heck don't, thus the question.

And now you have established context for your question and people can respond "intelligently" to your question. Why didn't you just explain this in your first response instead of popping a vein?



You asked *why* it doesn't work, I answered your question. If you think the answers to your questions are mindless dribble perhaps you should ask different questions.

Again, the way you answer the question bears a lot of meaning behind it. The way you posed the response, and the response itself, indicate that you either think the question was very stupid, or that I must have very little understanding of how a simple command such as /follow operates.

I don't know if you are stupid or not and I don't know if you are familiar with how a simple command such as /follow operates.


Quite frankly I found the response insulting.

There is nothing insulting in the post except what *you* read into it.


People like you who post something like that, which is quite painfully clear to anyone who's multi-boxed for a level or two, are posting simply for the sake of posting, and not adding anything to the actual discussion.

And you responding the way you did and continue to do is not adding anything to the discussion either, yet here you are doing more of it. And "people like me"? You know me, do you? For someone that reads insults into comments so easily and have brain hemorrhages about it you sure do sling those insults every which way.


If you were confused what I was getting at, you could have asked for elaboration.

I wasn't confused, your question was very clear. If you don't like the answers to your questions perhaps *you* should phrase your questions better or rephrase instead of throwing your toys out of the cot.


If you didn't have an answer to my question, you could have not posted at all, yet you decide to post with:


Perhaps because..

/follow name

works...?

I did have an answer to your question.


Which, in my opinion, is useless, mindless dribble that doesn't serve any purpose in advancing the discussion.

Yet, it is an answer to the question you asked. To quote "I, Robot":
I'm sorry. My responses are limited. You must ask the right questions.

[Khazrael]

Rather then continuing to muck up this thread with our petty arguments, how about we take this to PM and try to resolve it there.